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**** Conference [ 62] - (Fido) Planet Connect From: LES TURNER Number: 1 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 03/26/94 7:56a Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ==>: In a brief moment of insanity, Kim Bergman told All: KB> Hello All, KB> Some of you are far too impressed with yourselves and need KB> to be sat in a corner until you're ready to quit this nana KB> nana boo boo stuff. The rest of us don't care whether you KB> Kim I certainly would have liked to quote the whole message and replied with a resounding: YEAH! Take That! I agree completely.... I dont understand why we cant exist peacefully in cyberspace. After all there is _PLENTY_ of room for everyone! Les --- RA201-FMail96-Intermail * Origin: CW Technical Support - South Bend, IN - (219) 272-8133 (1:227/133) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADAM FARKAS Number: 2 To: ALL Date: 03/27/94 5:45a Subj: Tossing Speed Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No What is the average tossing time for the full fido feed? From the posts which I have read, our time is very short of being average. Adam --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#2155) * Origin: Wolf's Information Center BBS (1:141/1070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTY DUPLISSEY Number: 3 To: ALL Date: 03/15/94 8:37p Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! If Anyone is interested I have wipped up a fix for using raid with Wcff. It is in testing right now and if all goes well will be put up for freq in the next few days. This utility will allow you to make multiple passes at raid messages while tweeking the appropiate wcff.cfg file. Let me know if there is any interest before we waste the bandwith to distribute it. Marty --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219 * Origin: Programmers Connection OS/2 Longview,TX.903-643-7607 (1:398/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTY DUPLISSEY Number: 4 To: ALL WC SYSOPS Date: 03/20/94 4:05p Subj: Preraid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! After the frustation of unable to use Raid with our planect connect hub. I have written a little utility that will allow you to use raid in a multipass emvironment similiar to the way you have to run wcff. It is called preraid. Freqable here as majic name of Preraid or as filename of Prerd_11.arj. Marty --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219 * Origin: Programmers Connection OS/2 Longview,TX.903-643-7607 (1:398/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALTER CADE Number: 5 To: MARTY DUPLISSEY Date: 03/21/94 9:22a Subj: Preraid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hello All! -> -> After the frustation of unable to use Raid with our planect connect h -> I have written a little utility that will allow you to use raid in a -> emvironment similiar to the way you have to run wcff. -> It is called preraid. Freqable here as majic name of Preraid or as fi -> Prerd_11.arj. -> -> Just a plug here Program works great. The reason all of you will need this program is.....If you get all the files via the filebone and especially if you run WCFF, you will find that you have to have 3 or more cfg files, like .cf1, .cf2, .cf3 and writhe them to a cfg to process. To do this Raid will not work. This program addresses this problem and makes it WORK. Can freq it here at 28,800 Prerd_11.arj. ANd thanks Marty!!! Walter --- WM v3.10/93-0997 * Origin: Arti BBS (903) 758-ARTI Multi-Line 28,8 Hayes V.fc (1:398/2.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALTER CADE Number: 6 To: DEXTER WRIGHT Date: 03/24/94 4:47p Subj: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Are there any AreaMgr's that work with WildCat/WCFF for -> requesting file echo's? Raid works fine but if you have to use Multiple .cfg files you will need PRERAID. Only available on net 398. FReq here at 28,8. Magic file name PRERAID Walter --- WM v3.10/93-0997 * Origin: Arti BBS (903) 758-ARTI Multi-Line 28,8 Hayes V.fc (1:398/2.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM FIERRO Number: 7 To: FOXY FERGUSON Date: 03/25/94 7:01p Subj: A Few Questions From A Ne Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No FF> TF>*@SUBJECT:A few questions from a newbie FF> And I'd suggest you turn on PCSITES and PCSTATS, if you haven't already. FF> Both are for just dish site sysops... Hope this helps, Tim. Thanks for the answers to my questions. I have the above turned on of course, it was those little things that as a newbie, you are not quite sure if it is ok to do. Looks like it is working ok then. TRENDS! * Bringing you the mail via a satellite from 24,456 miles in the sky! --- * RoseReader 2.50* P003065 Entered at [RACER] --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: TRENDS! Node #2 * Sumner, WA * (206) 863-5877 * (1:138/165) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALTER CADE Number: 8 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 03/26/94 9:38a Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Some of you are far too impressed with yourselves and need to be sat -> corner until you're ready to quit this nana nana boo boo stuff. The -> don't care whether you can set up a mailer in 15 seconds, have made i -> number x on some list in somebody's rag, have 143 gigs online, 24 lin -> with RIP, whatever. Mudslinging is mudslinging and your mud is no le -> distasteful than any one else's. And if you can't suppress your chi -> to flame me over this then go ahead but don't expect an equally chidi -> response. The best you can expect is a lowering of my esteem for you -> as the esteem the other adults in this echo may have for you. -> Did I miss something here, Maybe I am not getting all the mail in this echo. :) Walter --- WM v3.10/93-0997 * Origin: Arti BBS (903) 758-ARTI Multi-Line 28,8 Hayes V.fc (1:398/2.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALEX STUART Number: 9 To: JERRY NOLTE Date: 03/26/94 6:53p Subj: BAG Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * Thus spake Jerry Nolte: JN> Can anyone tell me of a fairly simple way to get the USENET JN> messages into RA (JAM Style). Or better yet a door that may JN> allow users to view them and post via Intermail gateway if JN> that is possible???? There are a few ways. I run GIGO as a gateway - it's a great programme btw - to convert *.BAG to *.PKT appearing from an address that is my Internet Gateway address. I whack those through PKTSORT to produce ordered *.PKT at about 2MB sizes (one huge packet is a bit too inflexible). That's produced on the network node that deals with the sat. downlink. It's dumped across the network to a protected inbound. I use FastEcho with a secondary enviornment variable set to deal just with Usenet (i.e. it points to a different FASTECHO.CFG file with different protected inbound and a unique default group structure for my logical gateway address. That allows all the incoming Usenet stuff to be autocreated as necessary as new JAM areas automatically on the fly without affecting FTN stuff (which will be processed with a different *.CFG file as the batch file sets a different FE enviornment variable. Setting it up that way, and using the mapping file in Gigo to do one hierarchy at a time initially with a unique group in FastEcho made it possible to autoinstall Usenet into the BBS with no work at all at my end other than to edit the default autocreate stuff for FastEcho and the mapping file for each hierarchy I wanted. Running GIGO in test mode so the bag files were preserved allowed a basic setup to be created in a few hours of processing time and a few minutes of my time. From there on it is more or lesss self maintaining. (tinker with the mapping file as you want, and leave a new default group for autoadded areas that you can then deal with as you want. Everything has to be JAM of course, and HMBLOCK should be set in the enviornment to something reasonable (I have it at 10) if you are tossing inbound while nodes are up (which presumabely you want to be). [Otherwise FastEcho won't let anyone log on until it unlocks the message base at the end of each packet; HMBLOCK overrides that and checks every - in this case - 10 seconds if someone is trying to log on on any node. Set up appropriately, you can toss without any real degredation for callers on line, so you don't have to be too agressive. I think it takes me 30 min to process a full FidoNet feed plus most of the current Newsgroups on a 386/40 with 3 other tasks running. A dedicated instance of FastEcho should process at something like 50 messages a second if you want to stick another 386/40 as a mail processer on the network. Sorting packets helps, and processing all the *.BAG files at one pass with a big (>8MB) window size on PKTSORT will give performance way beyond that, as will throwing memory at FastEcho and using standard tricks like tossing from one physical drive to another physical drive. I find it faster to preprosses on a network node and copy to the main BBS system than actually toss across the network by a long shot. As to *.BAG > *PKT .I find GIGO plenty fast with video and logging off (it's simply running on a network node that does nothing but download from the disk and preprocess mail packets and *.TIC stuff when a cycle finishes.) As far as the RA stuff goes, I can give you very specific help in a FastEcho enviornment. (I'm a beta/registration site for the product, and *real* serious about getting it working well with R.A. and Newsgroups. In general, R.A. and a half decent JAM tosser/scanner will function o.k. with Newsgroups and heavy mail feeds in general. I'm running just over 4000 message areas and process about 70 MB of inbound mail a day from all sources. The next generation of JAM tossers will be even better :-). (I have to chuckle when I read Mac's messages about Wildcat!/Wildmail) GIGO will give you Internet mail and outbound usenet stuff transparently, and if FSC-35 is turned *off* in gateway.cfg you can set up a netmail area in RA that will transparently work as an Internet mail area, picking up the reply address correctly if your users want to reply. Give your well liked users access to names.ctl, and you can set up macros to make addressing tranparent to their normal corespondents, and use the /N= paramater in the 'enter message optional data field' for the enter internet mail menu item to point to the FTN address of your logical gateway, and RA/GIGO will do everything automatically. Slick as the dickens. Netmail will be addressed to the gateway, and if you've ensured that they can't set crash status by making the security sufficiently high, on exit scan out netmail to your gateway address, pack it, run gigo, and run UUCICO or whatever to fire it to your UUCP host.) Conference mail>newsgroups is more straight forward of course. If you want to cost control Internet mail, you can simply add your gateway address to ranode's control file in the approriate way, and that will be automatic as well. Alex astuart@qleap.com --- FastEcho/386 1.40a * Origin: Quantum Leap Victoria BC (604)595-4407 [HST/V.32bis] (1:340/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRETT HAYS Number: 10 To: STEVE MOSS Date: 03/27/94 1:14a Subj: Offline mail reader Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SMUse them both and pick the best one for *you*..! They each have their SMindividual strengths and weaknesses. I'm a registered user of both SMprograms, and WaveRider fits my usage better at this time. Before SMmaking SMyour final decision, use the most recent public versions of both SMprograms. SMWaveRider v1.10 SMCmpQwk v1.31 Didn't I read somewhere about a version 1.41 of CMPqwk that had considerable new features, bug fixes? Brett Brett Hays --- * WaveRdr 1.01 [NR] * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- QM v1.31 * Origin: HighSierra Online - Lake Tahoe CA (916) 577-4438 (1:203/8888.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRETT HAYS Number: 11 To: FORREST RAYBURN Date: 03/27/94 1:17a Subj: Cmpqwk Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No FR No matter who you ask about OLR's you will get the same answer. Try FRthem both, compare them, and then pick the one that will meet your FRneeds, wants, and desires. FR <== Forrest ==> I think you are probably right, there just seem to be so many and I though it might be useful if someone who has experience with almost all of them could post a little pros/cons message about the relative features of each like: WaveRDR: solid/bluewave & QWK support, truncates quoting CMPQWK: ?????????? Paperboy: provides built in ANSI w/out external viewer, very configurable, database export, buggy in current BETA VBReader: ??????????????????? ?????????? Can anyone fill in the wholes here? Brett Brett Hays --- * WaveRdr 1.01 [NR] * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- QM v1.31 * Origin: HighSierra Online - Lake Tahoe CA (916) 577-4438 (1:203/8888.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 12 To: JERRY NOLTE Date: 03/26/94 10:44a Subj: BAG Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jerry Nolte writes: JN> Can anyone tell me of a fairly simple way to get the USENET JN> messages into RA (JAM Style). Or better yet a door that may JN> allow users to view them and post via Intermail gateway if JN> that is possible???? If you are running at least a 386 with a couple megs of memory, my internet/fidonet gateway program will convert bags. It will convert .BAG files into .PKT files, and treat them just like echomail. In addition, should you make arrangements with a usenet provider for the return traffic, you'll already be most of the way configured to handle it. :-) How to get the most recent version of GIGO: *Note* GIGO requires a 386sx or greater. It also requires a 2 meg machine; possibly more memory if you are disk caching etc. 1: Fidonet style file request to 1:203/7707 (1-916-484-0934) for "GIGO". My system is running a USR Sportster v32b 14400 modem, if modem compatabilities are an issue. Alternatively, send your request to 1:203/8055, which is a USR Dual Standard, with HST mode going up to 16800. 2: By email; send email to fileserv@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com, message body "GET GIGO". The file will be sent uuencoded back to you. Note that if you are using a .fidonet.org address, the gateway will not honor the request, as to prevent file routing in fidonet, a bad-bad-no-no. All other addresses will be honored. 3: Via the internet, using FTP: ftp.netcom.com:/pub/jfesler This site is the first site to get any new version. Copies are also sent to ftp.fidonet.org and to ftp.halycom.com, but will usually be as many as a few days behind. Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd-g2+ * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM FIERRO Number: 13 To: DALE WOOD Date: 03/27/94 10:54a Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DW> Anybody else who has a better idea, feel free to jump in here. DW> Particularly if you've got Planet Connect running under Desqview. That DW> would solve a few more of my problems if I could run everything on one machine. DW> DW> DW> DOS=HIGH If you are running DV, try taking that line out and letting DV use the HMA area. DV will use it all where as DOS will only use a portion of it. Per the DV docs, your milage will vary, but if you can work on that area of it, you might get a few extra k to bring you above 500k per window. TRENDS! * Bringing you the mail via a satellite from 24,456 miles in the sky! --- * RoseReader 2.50* P003065 Entered at [RACER] --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: TRENDS! Node #2 * Sumner, WA * (206) 863-5877 * (1:138/165) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 14 To: ALL Date: 03/27/94 8:21p Subj: INBOUND BAD ECHOMAIL AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Areafix v1.30, (C) 1988-92 by Greg Dawson & George Peace (1:270/101) Originally Written by Greg Dawson. Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Netmail'... Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Badecho'... Reading 'C:\Rbbs\Areas.Bbs'... Address 106/737 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'MATRIX' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'LOST' Address 2604/99 not authorized to create area 'NJFORSALE' Address 3811/340 not authorized to create area 'THEWORD' Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'VIRGINIA_BBS' Address 123/301 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 266/22 not authorized to create area 'FTSC' Address 140/201 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 348/501 not authorized to create area 'SWARE348' Address 234/100 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 3639/19 not authorized to create area 'WORDPLAGUE' Address 3639/19 not authorized to create area 'SPN_CURRENT' Address 3639/19 not authorized to create area 'SPN_MODERATOR' Address 3639/19 not authorized to create area 'SPN_VIRUSTROJAN' Address 3639/19 not authorized to create area 'SPN_BBSTECH' Address 342/666 not authorized to create area 'BITCH' Address 2607/15 not authorized to create area 'REGION13' Address 3410/1 not authorized to create area 'RECTRVMK' Address 215/215 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 3807/104 not authorized to create area '3807STAT' Address 3641/1 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 372/10 not authorized to create area 'COMP.GROUPWARE' Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18' Address 202/401 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 231/285 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 229/2 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'VIRGINIA_BBS' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'LOST' Address 2260/1 not authorized to create area 'HAM_SALE' Address 2260/1 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 157/110 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 157/110 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 3603/20 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 3603/20 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 3807/104 not authorized to create area '3807STAT' Address 3410/1 not authorized to create area 'RECTRVMK' Address 107/33 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 107/33 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'LOST' Address 154/100 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 202/401 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 374/1 not authorized to create area 'MEDIEVAL' Address 18/2 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 106/737 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 105/103 not authorized to create area 'CASCADE.SCOUT' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'CLONE' Address 3406/15 not authorized to create area 'BUY&SELL' Address 372/10 not authorized to create area 'COMP.GROUPWARE' Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18' Address 239/1004 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 239/1004 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 2440/5 not authorized to create area 'DAIRY_FARM' Address 232/39 not authorized to create area 'R11FORSALE' Address 106/737 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 323/150 not authorized to create area 'NUT-HOUSE' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 3611/15 not authorized to create area 'DVNET' Address 157/110 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 370/510 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 3811/340 not authorized to create area 'THEWORD' Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'VIRGINIA_BBS' Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'VIRGINIA_BBS' Address 2609/4 not authorized to create area 'DEV_SYSOP' Address 2609/4 not authorized to create area 'REGION150' Address 3807/104 not authorized to create area '3807STAT' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'LOST' Address 3622/1000 not authorized to create area 'ISDN' Address 3817/1 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 107/33 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 3603/20 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 134/10 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 3410/1 not authorized to create area 'RECTRVMK' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'LOST' Address 2619/50 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'AUG-GEN' Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'R19SYSOP' Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'R19_CHAT' Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'R19COORD' Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'R19SYSOP' Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'AUG-GEN' Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'HUMANITIES' Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'FM-GENEALOGIE' Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'AUG-GEN' Address 157/200 not authorized to create area 'ALZHEIMERS' --- Harvey's Robot v4.53 * Origin: Planet Systems (1:3615/50.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 15 To: BRIAN STEIN Date: 03/27/94 8:55p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Brian! Sunday March 27 1994 03:42, Brian Stein wrote to All: BS> This is a test...please respond. Ignore after: Wednesday the 31st. BS> BS> Brian BS> BS> -+- SLMAIL v3.5C (#2155) BS> + Origin: Wolf's Information Center BBS (1:141/1070) = o /-_ = o = _>(_) = _ /-_ .............(_) ...........(_)>(_) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hurry up and send in your Reply by Wed the 31th. :-) Got you message here in Central Texas on Sunday 27th around 10:am.. is that Fast enough??? Regards, George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb --- Alexi/Mail 2.00a6 (#7) * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat <tm> - 14.4k DS-HST v32bis (FidoNet 1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAT CURRY Number: 16 To: ALL Date: 03/18/94 9:52p Subj: Missed Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Can someone clear up the missed transmission deal for me? I understand that PC transmits all the files several times a day. Do you have to do any special processing to get the ones you missed the first time or anything? Does the system automatically know you missed packet 37 of 100 or something like that and it will only toss #37 the second time around? I haven't received my video tape yet and I'm still a little hazy on some of these areas. :) Thanks. PC --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Pat's Shop BBS * (706) 882-2487 (1:3656/110) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 17 To: MARTIN BELCKE Date: 03/27/94 9:37p Subj: Re: reciever????? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Martin Belcke babbled to Mark Adkins <on 03/26/94>: MB} -> Okay now that we have the tech part over with, what are you going to MB} -> the decoder if you don't have this chip/circuit in it? MB} Return it, if and when I no longer need it, as per the contract I MB} signed. You purchased the receiver. It is yours to do with as you wish. But, should you ever decide to drop Planet Connect, you would have to return the decoding chip inside the receiver. That chip (and its programming) is the property of PC, but the receiver itself is yours. Dean * WCE 1.5/2034 * --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream BBS * Peoria,IL * (1:232/30.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 18 To: MARTIN BELCKE Date: 03/27/94 11:45p Subj: Re: Reciever????? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->> Okay now that we have the tech part over with, what are you going to ->> the decoder if you don't have this chip/circuit in it? MB> Return it, if and when I no longer need it, as per the contract MB> I signed. I think that's wrong, Martin, at least with the contract I have. It states that the Dongle and the Proprietary chip and the Software is what has to be returned, should you discontinue your feed ... NOT the data receiver itself. In fact, many, many services use that SAME data receiver. --jah ... If Bill & Hilary get divorced, who gets the House? --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 19 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/23/94 7:54a Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering these K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they should NOT be mixed in with my daily fidonet echomail. You are NOT authorized to add areas on my system that are not listed in fido, as I am NOT allowed to do so on your system. When you decide to accept ANY echo tag that I wish to create on your system, I will in turn let you do this on my system. Stop these infractions at once! This is considered annoying behavior. Thank you, Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 20 To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 03/23/94 4:36p Subj: Re: School echoes available! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DP> How about just taking the list from the echo and edit DP>it... DP> then add it to the bottem of the FIDONET.NA..? I think it would be better if Boyd would distribute his backbone seperate than zone 1, god knows who will approach him next with their 31 echo areas that they want him to force down our throats....it could happen, and it seems a bit too easy for Boyd to start his own backbone, I just want him to leave zone 1 backbone alone. I could imagine how pissed I would be if my RHUB made 31 non zone 1 echomail areas mandatory, I think I would have a good case against him. Regards, Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 21 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 03/26/94 10:42p Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No <=> Kim Bergman Was Heard Saying This To All: KB>Some of you are far too impressed with yourselves and need to KB>be sat in a corner until you're ready to quit this nana nana KB>boo boo stuff. The rest of us don't care whether you can set I believe that is "na nana boo boo" :=) Regards, Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY CREMONESE Number: 22 To: GARY HEDBERG Date: 03/27/94 10:47a Subj: SERVICES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GH> Gary Hedberg | 509 946-2301 voice | gary.hedberg@onestop.sccsi.com GH> P.O Box 1130 | 509 946-0570 fax | GH> Richland, WA 99352 | 509 943-0211 BBS | 1:3407/1 I am intrigued with the signatures that I have been seeing on different message platforms. Your's caught my eye. Is there any document that treats this subject for beginners? Are there any taboos? I have been experimenting with my own and would like to develope a final signature and get on with it. One that is OK for both FidoNet and Internet would be best. Tony Cremonese tony@acornbbs.com --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: *AcornBBS*Freeport,ME*USA*207-865-3004* (1:326/406) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY CREMONESE Number: 23 To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 03/27/94 10:49a Subj: FIDONET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RA> Where do I send the check? :-) Tony Cremonese tony@acornbbs.com --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: *AcornBBS*Freeport,ME*USA*207-865-3004* (1:326/406) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 24 To: TIMOTHY WAGONER Date: 03/27/94 4:27p Subj: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TIMOTHY WAGONER wrote in a message to CRAIG CLARK: TW> What system are you running. I am running Wildcat 3.9. Will TW> allfix work for me? If so where can it be gotten at. I have TW> many CD's, would it be on any of them. I'm running Maximus and I'm really not sure if it will work for you or not. Check out the ALLFIX echo if you've got it. The North American distribution site is 1:138/193; you should be able to freq a copy from there. -=- Craig. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LE DUC Number: 25 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 03/27/94 12:17p Subj: SERVICES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jim Dunmyer wrote in a message to John Le Duc: JD> Actually, if you define "successful" as busy with lots of JD> callers, it is much harder to be "successful" and charge for JD> access. As another operator of a "free" system said, "Why JD> should anyone have to call a pay board when they can get it JD> for free on mine?" The answer is, the pay board has to have JD> something that a free board doesn't. And a "successful" one JD> does. Sounds like your saying that only a pay board can be successful <G>. The reason I started my system was that I could not find a system (free or pay) which carried the services I was looking for (as a caller). The discussion here seems to imply that Doors make a system...doesn't anyone care about 'other services'? Around Vegas, systems with online games are 5 for a nickle, 12 to the dime...but as more people are getting to computing as a serious extension of their work or 'other' hobbie, I think you'll find that the number of online games a system has will be less a measure of sucess and more a measure of the sysop's desperation to attract callers. There will always be room for boards that provide in-depth support for areas of special interest....somthing that a pay board cannot afford to do. A pay board that specialized in, for example, Ham radio would have a tough time making it, but there is STILL a place for such a board...even if the board is (gasp) a free one. Running a sucessful free system, which provides extensive support for a special interest, is no cheaper than running a generalized system with a bunch of kiddy doors...to the contrary. It is also no less demanding on the sysop. The level of interaction and user help required is at best, the same. Nor can such a specialized system simply depend on the PC to provide "enough echos and files to satisfy the callers who get enough of the games", rather the sysop is spending about the same amount in long distance charges as before PC, because PC limits it Fido feed to the backbone only and neglects most of the special interests. Like a pay board, PC is primarily concerned with those services which cost them the least, yet look good on the list of services....I'm suprised that PC hasn't figured out how to put up online games ...you know, to attract 'callers'. Then again, PC doesn't have any compatetion..........yet. Interestingly, Las Vegas has fallen into the same trap....all glitz and flash with no substance. A bit of compatition wouldn't hurt, from the standpoint of forcing a bit of substance back into the picture. TTYL, John --- * Origin: The GeneSplicer's BBS-Las Vegas,NV (1:209/720) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAMES NERLINGER Number: 26 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/27/94 1:51p Subj: Services. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, can you list the services/charges that PC is now offering? I am especially interested in InterNet and the quantities coming through. James. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Access Information Services --> FIDONet (1:108/155) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 27 To: ALL Date: 03/28/94 2:24a Subj: Utilities Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! I have written 3 utilities that I use to handle the mail and files after PCFU sends them to my Toss directory. MailMove will move bundles of mail 1 to all of them for tossing from the Toss dir to the Process dir for the mail tosser to toss them, TicMove will move the .tic and it's companopn file only if both are present in the Toss dir to the Process Dir and MakeWcff then reads the .tic files and compares the info to it's configuration files and writes WCFF.CFG on the fly. The results of these files have helped me to complety automate everything except the few files or .tic's left behind which after they get 4 or 5 days old a del *.* works fine on them. Anyone who wants to try these files and use them may freq MAILFILE.ZIP at almost anytime at 14.4 from the orgin line below. I have been using all these files for the past month now and they seem to do what they are written for. That is to automate the Planet Connect files and mail processing. If you use WCFF from OCR then I think you will like MAKEWCFF and TICMOVE. Magic Name MAILFILE Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Misspelled? Impossible. Error correcting modem! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 28 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 03/23/94 8:44p Subj: Prices Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Greg! In a message to Jeff Bowman <03/18/94> Greg Shaffer wrote: GS> Jeff Bowman wrote in a message to All: GS> Nothing.....The files are free to PC systems.....Your callers will have t GS> a subscription rate (I dont recall the amount) in order to get the softwa GS> that reads the files. You as a PC subscriber get a free copy. GS> JB> Now, what is this going to cost me / month GS> Add it up....:) Thanks, This helps out alot... Appreciate the time <<sig.imp * WCE 1.5/2119 * All hope abandon, ye who enter messages here. --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 29 To: ALL Date: 03/23/94 9:29p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! After the proposal of going REALTIME. I built another machine for the dish. As of now, I get everything on the one machine and then laplink it all over... This is VERY VERY time consuming. What is the easy and cheapest way to get a network running <<sig.imp * WCE 1.5/2119 * MSI - Connecting The World In '94 --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 30 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/23/94 10:04p Subj: newsgroups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! Could you me and some other wildcat sysops and see if you can get alt.bbs.wildcat and alt.bbs.qmodem for us.. PLEASE <<sig.imp * WCE 1.5/2119 * ■ SLMR 1.05 ■ Regardless of what you may think, this is NOT --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 31 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 03/26/94 2:52p Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mac! In a message to All <03/20/94> Mac Bryant wrote: MB> Hello, Folks! MB> I need some help desperately with the following configuration: MB> Wildcat 3.9 MB> Lantastic 5.0 MB> DESQview/QEMM (latest) MB> Wildmail 3.1 (problem - slow tossing around 60/min) MB> Does such a critter exist? <g> her eis a sugestion... use a program by OCR called SORTPKT, you will toss 380-600 message per minute <<sig.imp * WCE 1.5/2119 * 90% of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at. --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 32 To: GARY HEDBERG Date: 03/27/94 2:06p Subj: SERVICES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > A lot depends on what your market will bear. What the competition in > your area is doing and offering, and what it costs you to present Oh, I'm by far the most expensive in my area as far as I know, but I'm not meeting my costs, plus it appears that comparable boards in other areas are far more costly (to subscribers) than mine. I don't mind losing some callers if the return is greater. :-) --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS BATES Number: 33 To: MICHAEL ANDREWS Date: 03/27/94 9:53p Subj: PC w/2ComPorts and SCSI card Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Michael! Monday March 21 1994 00:44, Michael Andrews wrote to All: MA> Question, what would be a good IRQ for COM3. MA> My ports area as follows: MA> adr irq MA> COM1 MotherBoard - 3F8 4 Mouse MA> COM2 Serial card 1st port - 2F8 3 Modem MA> COM3 Serial card 2nd port - 3E8 ? MA> Adaptec SCSI - 5 MA> SoundBlaster Pro - 7 I have a similiar setup and I use COM 4 on IRQ 2, which the computer moves to IRQ 9... I actually use: Com 1 IRQ 4, Com 2, IRQ 3, Com 3 IRQ 5, Com 4 IRQ 2, Sound Card IRQ 10 and Printer IRQ 7. This all seems to work fine under OS/2 2.1, and did under DOS with DESQview 2.62, and X00 & VX00 -- Good Luck! Chris --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Tower of High Sorcery - Conway, AR - echoes via satellite! (1:399/3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED WHITTOM Number: 34 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 03/28/94 4:45a Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hello All, -> -> If ever I have seen an echo in need of a moderator it *has* to be thi -> This thread is disgusting! >>>B R A V O<<< Well put! Fred --- WM v3.10/93-0786 * Origin: THE BACKDOOR BBS Williamsburg, VA (1:271/320) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RONNIE TOTH Number: 35 To: RADIST INTERESTS Date: 03/28/94 10:47a Subj: RADIST Announcement Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No !! NOTICE !! NOTICE !! NOTICE !! NOTICE !! NOTICE !! Effective April 1, 1994 Barring Unforseen Difficulties RADIST will be RADISTributing via Planet Connect! Ronnie Toth RADIST * HQ * --- * Origin: Sox! Live from Hialeah_FL_USA (305) 821-3317 (1:135/71) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 36 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/28/94 2:00a Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT > want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering these > K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they Fine. Anyone else feel this way? Gheese, you try to help out and start something that is good for education (God knows this country needs it!) and you get slapped up one side of ya and down the other. I have been very patient and quite while seeing what is going on in this area. It is going to the dogs. Hello, is there a moderator in here???? Anyone want to be the moderator??? I guess this is the straw that broke the camels back. You guys want to play hard ball? Fine. I'm all ready to take my first swing. I am no public relations man. Do you think this is fun sitting here at 2:00 am in the morning, reading stuff that does not make sense and then working all day at an office taking tech calls and making sure everything is going good. Then, for toppers, coming back here at 7:00 pm and working till 1 or 2 am again so that you get your mail and files. Anybody want a job? P.S. Have a nice day! ...Boyd --- DB B2106/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 37 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/28/94 2:05a Subj: Re: School echoes available! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I think it would be better if Boyd would distribute his backbone > seperate than zone 1, god knows who will approach him next with their 31 Ohhhhh! I got a few coming. > echo areas that they want him to force down our throats....it could > happen, and it seems a bit too easy for Boyd to start his own backbone, I I am not try to start anything. I guess thinking that it might be something worth while carrying is a crime here in the good U.S. of A. > just want him to leave zone 1 backbone alone. I could imagine how pissed > I would be if my RHUB made 31 non zone 1 echomail areas mandatory, I > think I would have a good case against him. Well then why dont you put a policy complaint against me. I never told you it is manditory to carry these. By the way Zone 1 backbone is still intact is it not? ...Boyd --- DB B2106/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: POSTLINK#1646 (EARTHART) Number: 38 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 03/26/94 2:01a Subj: Routing Error Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Message #2538 to CHUCK WARREN with a subject of Testing..... was not sent out due to the following error in your routing instructions: This : name not found in dictionary. --- * Earth Art BBS! * N.Charleston, SC * (803)552-4389 * 16.8 Duals! * PostLink(tm) v1.11 EARTHART (#1646) : RelayNet(tm) --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff138/a] * Origin: Earth Art BBS! * GreenNet! * (803) 552-4389 Dual 57.6 (1:372/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 39 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/29/94 6:50p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: 19 Read: NO Private: No -> system, I will in turn let you do this on my system. Stop these infra -> once! This is considered annoying behavior. Stop whining. If you don't like the Planet Connect service, don't use it. tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 40 To: FRED WHITTOM Date: 03/29/94 7:25p Subj: Services Refer: 34 Read: NO Private: No -> -> If ever I have seen an echo in need of a moderator it *has* to be -> -> This thread is disgusting! -> >>>B R A V O<<< Well put! -> Fred I recently moved and it was only a few days ago that I got my new node number and got settled into my new house. Cut me some slack. You want to be moderated? I can be the biggest S.O.B. moderator you've ever seen if that's what you want. tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 41 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/29/94 7:20p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: 36 Read: NO Private: No -> Hello, is there a moderator in here???? Anyone want to be the moderat -> guess this is the straw that broke the camels back. You guys want to Yeah, I'm here. I've been busy as hell for the past month moving to my new house and publishing our CD-ROM tites. There's more to life than these echos. The only thing worse than an echo cluttered with flames is an echo where everyone is afraid to post out of fear of being reprimanded by the moderator. My lack of moderating is *how* I moderate. EOT. tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS KINNEN Number: 43 To: BRIAN STEIN Date: 03/27/94 9:57p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > This is a test...please respond. Ignore after: Wednesday > the 31st. Brian, Comming in here in Sunny Florida. Thomas Kinnen Thomas.Kinnen@sobhrach.com --- InterMail 2.21 * Origin: Tom's Laptop Control Center, On The Road, U.S.A. (1:371/3901.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY NOLTE Number: 44 To: JOHN LITTLE Date: 03/28/94 7:19a Subj: Re: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting John Little to All <=- JL> Hello All! JL> Just tesing to see if these messages are getting out. Got it here guy! ... Jerry's Place BBS *We have it ALL!* 717-491-5113/4868 --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Jerry's Place BBS 1:268/10 *We Have it ALL!* 717-491-5113 (1:268/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY NOLTE Number: 45 To: BRIAN STEIN Date: 03/28/94 7:19a Subj: Re: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Brian Stein to All <=- BS> This is a test...please respond. Ignore after: Wednesday the 31st. BS> Brian Got It Here! Jerry ... Jerry's Place BBS *We have it ALL!* 717-491-5113/4868 --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Jerry's Place BBS 1:268/10 *We Have it ALL!* 717-491-5113 (1:268/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY GREEN Number: 46 To: JAMES NERLINGER Date: 03/28/94 5:55p Subj: Services. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JN> Boyd, can you list the services/charges that PC is now offering? I am JN> especially interested in InterNet and the quantities coming through. FidoNet Conference and file areas CDN Family Net K12 Freeway FDN's including: Association of Shareware Professionals Windows Application Network Shareware Distribution Network Author Direct Network Connect BBS CRS-Online French Net Global Net Health Care Net Intelec Major Net Rosenet-includes Microsoft TvAgent U n I net Rime Ilink (testing) IGA This is the Basic subscription listing that is $30 per month on a yearly contract with not refeeding status. Internet Usenet Groups.....by themselves...$30 per month yearly with Basic.........$20 per month yearly Weather..$5 per month up to 5 phone lines, $1 per line after... USAtoday Decision Line....$3 per month per phone line..$25 monthly minimum. Check the PRICES.TXT for details, and the SKYDATA\PERSONAL for the latest updates on these areas. The Internet Usenet groups are currently ramped up in quanity. We are working with our provider to provide more of these groups and this will take a little time, please be patient, we are working hard to upgrade this feed. Johnny Green, Planet Systems / Skylink (615) 623-8300 --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Planet Systems, Skylink 615-623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS HATTON Number: 47 To: ALL Date: 03/27/94 1:36p Subj: Internet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I haven't been following this echo lately, but a while back there was alot of discussion concerning the reception of the Internet feed and having a way to send replies back to PC. Boyd indicated that they were working on setting up an address for us so theat this would be possible. Has this been done? I've been waiting for this so I could start receiving the feed. Has anything been done? Thomas --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The_OS/2_Zone_Lexington,Ky. (606) 887-2277 (1:2370/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG ROSLER Number: 48 To: JOHN LITTLE Date: 03/26/94 7:48p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: Test BY: John Little on Fri Mar 25 1994 08:26 pm > Hello All! > > Just tesing to see if these messages are getting out. > > Thanks, > John > --- > * Origin: Split HoriZons*(905)276-4276/6466*1.7Gigs (1:259/300) John, it made it to Alburqurque, New Mexico on the 26th. Greg --- Synchronet * Origin: In Your Face BBS! 505-891-1424/1425 (1:301/43) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG ROSLER Number: 49 To: BRIAN STEIN Date: 03/27/94 12:42p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: Test BY: Brian Stein on Sun Mar 27 1994 03:42 am > This is a test...please respond. Ignore after: Wednesday the 31st. > > Brian > > --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#2155) > * Origin: Wolf's Information Center BBS (1:141/1070) You made it into Alburqurque, New Mexico on the 27th! Greg --- Synchronet * Origin: In Your Face BBS! 505-891-1424/1425 (1:301/43) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG ROSLER Number: 50 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/28/94 3:45p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: ky_da da da BY: Murry Francis to Boyd Goodin on Wed Mar 23 1994 07:54 amn > Boyd, > > I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT want > nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering these K12 echos Bad > echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they should NOT be mi > in with my daily fidonet echomail. You are NOT authorized to add areas on my > system that are not listed in fido, as I am NOT allowed to do so on your > system. When you decide to accept ANY echo tag that I wish to create on your > system, I will in turn let you do this on my system. Stop these infractions > once! This is considered annoying behavior. > > Thank you, > Murry > > --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. > * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) Are you kidding? No where does it say that they cannot add this. It fact, I hope they keep doing it! You have no choice in this matter. If you don't like their service then drop them. But the rest of us like these echos! This is not considered annoying behavior. Back up your statement. Where does it say they cannot do this? And, why can't you just send these messages to the bit bucket on your end? Why do have have to try an ruin a good thing for the rest of us? Greg --- Synchronet * Origin: In Your Face BBS! 505-891-1424/1425 (1:301/43) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG ROSLER Number: 51 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 3:48p Subj: K12 Stuff... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: Re: ky_da da da BY: Boyd Goodin to Murry Francis on Mon Mar 28 1994 02:00 am Boyd, that guy is a flake. Keep up the good work. If they don't want the echo they can send it to the bit bucket! Please keep these echos. Thanks Boyd. Your doing a hell of a good job. Signed, A very satisified customer, Greg --- Synchronet * Origin: In Your Face BBS! 505-891-1424/1425 (1:301/43) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALEX STUART Number: 52 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 12:43p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> > I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT BG> > want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering these BG> > K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, BG> BG> Fine. Anyone else feel this way? I, for one, feel exactly the opposite. Putting echos like K12 in with the rest of FTN mail makes it easy an automatic for those who want to carry those echos, and carries no pain or cost for those who do not, unless, perchance, the Murray's system was sold to him without a NUL device in which case he should be complaining to his computer system vendor, and not to you. BG> Gheese, you try to help out and start something that is good for BG> for education (God knows this country needs it!) [...] Indeed, and some of the abuse directed your way is in itself good evidence of the need to which you point. -- Alex. --- FastEcho/386 1.40a * Origin: Quantum Leap Victoria BC (604)595-4407 [HST/V.32bis] (1:340/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 53 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/28/94 6:40p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Murry! Wednesday March 23 1994 07:54, Murry Francis wrote to Boyd Goodin: MF> Boyd, MF> MF> I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT MF> want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering these K12 MF> echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they MF> should NOT be mixed in with my daily fidonet echomail. You are NOT MF> authorized to add areas on my system that are not listed in fido, as I am MF> NOT allowed to do so on your system. When you decide to accept ANY echo MF> tag that I wish to create on your system, I will in turn let you do this MF> on my system. Stop these infractions at once! This is considered annoying MF> behavior. Thank you, Murry -+- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. + Origin: Big Rig BBS MF> - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) I find your message to be annoying behavior.. I would have prefered that your would have shown the Common decency to have Sent you Message to Boyd via NETMAIL or Called him up Voice.. FYI, there are lots of subscribers to the Planet Connect Service that has Nothing to do with FidoNET... PC is not an Excusively FIDO Distribution Service... IMHO, you have serveral choices.. 1. Bit Bucket the K12 echo's, 2. Terminate your Contract with Planet Connect.. 3. Apologize to the 300 Plus Planet Connect Subscribers who may like the services that are being provide by PC.. Regards, George Vandervort - NET382 NEC ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb --- Alexi/Mail 2.00a6 (#7) * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat <tm> - 14.4k DS-HST v32bis (FidoNet 1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 54 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 2:23p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd, 28 Mar 94, 02:00, Boyd Goodin wrote to Murry Francis: BG> am in the morning, reading stuff that does not make sense and then working BG> all day at an office taking tech calls and making sure everything is going BG> good. Then, for toppers, coming back here at 7:00 pm and working till 1 or BG> 2 am again so that you get your mail and files. Anybody want a job? BG> P.S. Have a nice day! It's part of doing business. Sounds like you folks need more help. No attitude problem, huh? --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 55 To: ALL Date: 03/28/94 9:09p Subj: INBOUND BAD ECHOMAIL AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Areafix v1.30, (C) 1988-92 by Greg Dawson & George Peace (1:270/101) Originally Written by Greg Dawson. Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Netmail'... Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Badecho'... Reading 'C:\Rbbs\Areas.Bbs'... Address 255/1 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 202/401 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 370/510 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'TW_FILE' Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18' Address 372/10 not authorized to create area 'COMP.GROUPWARE' Address 3811/340 not authorized to create area 'THEWORD' Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'TW_MACINTOSH' Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'VIRGINIA_BBS' Address 3621/1 not authorized to create area 'RENEGADE' Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HCN-SYS' Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HCN' Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HCN-SYS' Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HCN' Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HCN-SYS' Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HN-COMP' Address 345/12 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 345/12 not authorized to create area 'HAWAII' Address 374/1 not authorized to create area 'MEDIEVAL' Address 136/2 not authorized to create area 'RIP_GRFX' Address 3639/19 not authorized to create area 'SPN_VIRUSTROJAN' Address 3807/104 not authorized to create area '3807STAT' Address 2609/4 not authorized to create area 'REGION13' Address 2609/4 not authorized to create area '903SYSOP' Address 2609/4 not authorized to create area 'REGION150' Address 2609/4 not authorized to create area '903SYSOP' Address 2609/4 not authorized to create area 'IMPERIUM' Address 3410/1 not authorized to create area 'RECTRVMK' Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'AUG-GEN' Address 202/401 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 100/602 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 3641/1 not authorized to create area 'ISDN' --- Harvey's Robot v4.53 * Origin: Planet Systems (1:3615/50.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY ARCADI Number: 56 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/27/94 9:40p Subj: Re: Internet mail via Planet Connect... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> This is in the plans but I do not have a date for when this will be done For what its worth, this would be one of the best features I could think of, assuming the mail was sent real-time, however, I could see certain BBSes taking up a large portion of the bandwidth <comparitavly speaking>, so perhaps metering mail to BBSes for billing purposes would be a nice idea also. --- Renegade v1-2 Exp * Origin: ·∙■∙· Stromi's ·∙■∙· (1:272/21) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY ARCADI Number: 57 To: STEVE VOLD Date: 03/27/94 9:41p Subj: Re: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SV> Why the heck would you want to run something for a bunch of people for SV> free??? I don't get that at all. Unless its like your rich and have SV> nothing better to do with your life :) I've run a free BBS in the past, it has a certain level of satisfaction, and its a lot less stressful, I really ran it for self-gratification. I don't see why everyone is even debating the issue, I've seen excellent free boards, and really poor pay boards, and vice-versa, I dont think whether you charge or not has any bearing at all on the quality of the board. For what its worth, I am now a pay board, and I am making the requisite changes.... --- Renegade v1-2 Exp * Origin: ·∙■∙· Stromi's ·∙■∙· (1:272/21) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRAY PLETSCH Number: 58 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/28/94 6:14p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Stop these infractions at once! This is considered annoying > behavior. Are you a PC downlink..? Ever hear of the echo PCSITES...? I like K12 Freeway echoes just like they are and so do several other folks who pay big money. We discuss it in an echo setup for us folks with a common interest. If you don't like what you get for your money ask for a refund. There are many folks out here who are tired of people shooting PC down and particularly in a Public echo....! I am very, very happy with saving (x) dollars....so are many other folks who are downlinking the signal from Planet Connect. Murray ^ --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Family Research BBS, Nanaimo, BC, CANADA 604-758-8157 (1:351/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRAY PLETSCH Number: 59 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/28/94 6:19p Subj: School echoes available! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > made 31 non zone 1 echomail areas mandatory, I think I would > have a good case against him. Do the rest of us PAYING customers a favour. Take it to netmail or PCSITES..! Murray ^ --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Family Research BBS, Nanaimo, BC, CANADA 604-758-8157 (1:351/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEVIN LECHNER Number: 60 To: JEFF BOWMAN Date: 03/28/94 6:58p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No 23 Mar 94, Jeff Bowman writes to All: JB> What is the easy and cheapest way to get a network running JB> <<sig.imp find a couple of used ethernet cards, 8 bit cards work fine and can usually be found pretty inexpensive ($15-20ea). Put them together with a couple of copies of Netware Lite ($70ea), about $20 worth of cable, connectors and terminators and you have a network for under $200.00. Kevin --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Last Point, Palm Bay, FL ** 14.4 ** (1:374/85.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 61 To: MARTY DUPLISSEY Date: 03/28/94 1:26p Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> If Anyone is interested I have wipped up a fix for using raid with -> Wcff. It is in testing right now and if all goes well will be put up -> freq in the next few days. This utility will allow you to make multip -> at raid messages while tweeking the appropiate wcff.cfg file. Let me -> there is any interest before we waste the bandwith to distribute it. I am interested. If you want the file distributed in the Wildcat file network, send it to Ron Woods and he can hatch it. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 62 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 7:39p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG>> I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT BG>Do you think this is fun sitting here at 2:00 am in the BG>morning, reading stuff that does not make sense and then BG>working all day at an office taking tech calls and making BG>sure everything is going good. Then, for toppers, coming back BG>here at 7:00 pm and working till 1 or 2 am again so that you BG>get your mail and files. Anybody want a job? Boyd, what does all this have to do with my statement? If you are surrounded by inexperienced people, than you have a problem indeed, I have found myself in the same situation as yours, but a simple double cardiac bypass operation freed me from that crap. Now i can sit at home and bitch at you. I suggest you do hire some assistant that can handle some responsibility as you are only one person. On the other subject....starting 31 echo's on your own initiative, is setting a scary example of PC's power, no matter how much good these echo's seem, there is always going to be the next guy that approach's you, and it will be up to your discretion as to weather the echo's are worthy, kind of alot of power if left in the wrong hands? I think the backbone has a system to get echo's on the backbone, and it has worked fine so far. You can very easily start your own backbone, and it might be a good idea, if you need a hand to set it up let me know, I am willing to help, I have plenty of time anymore, it would be better than bitching at you. BG>P.S. Have a nice day! You have a nice day too, Boyd. Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 63 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 8:30p Subj: Re: School echoes available! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> Well then why dont you put a policy complaint against BG>me. I never told you it is manditory to carry these. By the BG>way Zone 1 backbone is still intact is it not? They should not be mixed in with the fidonet nodelist adressing, as soon as you do that, and mix them in with Z1 backbone, then the Z1 backbone is no longer intact. Mix them with USEnet, see what happens.....I don't think you would like that reaction either. How about Rime....try that one. The point I was making was that I do have grounds to complain to you, if I wanted to file a policy complaint it would have been done long ago, that is not what this communications hobby is about with me.....I feel that we can communicate and resolve any problems. Remeber this is not a hobby with you, it is a business, and you get paid to hear my input on your service to me, my suggestion to you is that you swallow what you have before you bite off another piece, you are trying to implement to many things at one time, and you are not surrounded with "over achievers" down their, seems like you are one overworked person, and you truly do need someone on your team to pull the load too. ...Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 64 To: JEFF BOWMAN Date: 03/28/94 8:36p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No <=> Jeff Bowman Was Heard Saying This To All: JB>As of now, I get everything on the one machine and then JB>laplink it all JB>over... This is VERY VERY time consuming. Jeff LapLink has a command line mode that will let you transfer the stuff over to the main system via a batch file, they are in the LapLink docs. It's alot cheaper than a network for this kind of stuff. Regards, Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 65 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 03/28/94 2:59p Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JB} MB> I need some help desperately with the following configuration: JB} MB> Wildcat 3.9 JB} MB> Lantastic 5.0 JB} MB> DESQview/QEMM (latest) JB} MB> Wildmail 3.1 (problem - slow tossing around 60/min) JB} her eis a sugestion... use a program by OCR called SORTPKT, you will JB} toss 380-600 message per minute And another suggestion....SORTPKT helps considerably for tossing to your own message base. But another utility, PSORT, will work for your own message bases as well as downlink packets. PSORT is much faster than SORTPKT (make that *MUCH* faster). It sorts messages by area, and then chronologically within each area. You can set PSORT up (with a small batch file) to run each time you run WMail as "program to run after unpacking" in WMCONFIG. Depending on how many echos you toss, this can reduce your toss time considerably by pre-filtering out the echos you don't want. My total toss time was cut in half. This idea won't increase your tossing speed, but it will make sure that WildMail doesn't waste time dealing with echos you (and your downlinks) don't carry. You can FREQ PSORT from 1:203/7707 and get the latest copy. Be sure to get the necessary companion file DOS4GW at the same time. PSORT won't run without it. I don't run DesqView here, not sure if PSORT will work under DV. It does work fine with QEMM 7.03 and LANtastic. If you want, I can send you a text file of my setup. Won't take you long to get it going. Dean * WCE 1.5/2034 * * WCE 1.5/2034 * --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream BBS * Peoria,IL * (1:232/30.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB SLOWINSKI Number: 66 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/28/94 5:17p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to Boyd Goodin, Murry Francis said: > Boyd, > I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as > turn let you do this on my system. Stop these infractions at > once! This is considered annoying behavior. Maybe to you, I consider it nice :-) --- FastEcho v1.40 * Origin: -=Information Central=- Hermantown, MN (1:282/76) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PHIL MILLER Number: 67 To: JOE LYDA Date: 03/28/94 4:23p Subj: Re: Utilities Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Mon 28-Mar-1994 02:24 thus spake JOE LYDA unto ALL: JL> The results of these files have helped me to complety automate everything JL> except the few files or .tic's left behind. I have written a program to help clean up those extra .TIC's & files very quick and easily. If you would like a copy Freq TICKPROC from 1:2201/200. Features of version 2.2 include : · One tick/line on the screen allows you to view several ticks at a time. · Deletion of a tick file also removes its associated file if present. · Move a tick and its associated file to another drive or directory. · Rename the area name in a tick file for rerouting. · Output list of files (with its area name, size, and description) to a text file or printer. · Tagging operations allow changes to multiple files at one time. · View the actual tick file for seenby's or whatever. · View FileBone.NA to read descriptions or areas. · View the current compressed file (if present) in Shez. Version 2.5 is in beta testing right now, I hope to release it by the end of the week. New features in 2.5 will include : · Configuration stored in .EXE file. · Sort list of files by areaname, filename, size, or extension. · Tag files by filespec. · Generate tick files for orphan files. · Delete only Tick file. · Ability to rename tick file if extension is not *.TIC --- GoldED 2.42a/Intermail 2.26/FastEcho 1.40/TAG 2.6F3b Beta * Origin: NET 2201 Echo Operations (Fidonet: 1:2201/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTOPHER JONG Number: 68 To: ALL Date: 03/27/94 12:07p Subj: This Base Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I'm just wondering, what do we talk about in this specific base? --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0513] * Origin: The Shareware Exchange! [415]992-4320 <Daly City, CA> (1:125/85) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK PARKMAN Number: 69 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 12:33p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > and down the other. I have been very patient and quite while > seeing what is going on in this area. It is going to the > dogs. Hello, is there a moderator in here???? Anyone want to > be the moderator??? I guess this is the straw that broke the > camels back. You guys want to play hard ball? Fine. I'm all > ready to take my first swing. I am no public relations man. > Do you think this is fun sitting here at 2:00 am in the > morning, reading stuff that does not make sense and then > working all day at an office taking tech calls and making > sure everything is going good. Then, for toppers, coming back > here at 7:00 pm and working till 1 or 2 am again so that you > get your mail and files. Anybody want a job? > > P.S. Have a nice day! > > ...Boyd Hey Boyd, you could always tell em to "call 911"... Keep up the good work guy, screw the ones that do nuthin but bitch. An yeah I could use a job <g> --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Swingers International (1:170/351) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON BAGINSKI Number: 70 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 3:54p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT >> want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering these >> K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they BG> Fine. Anyone else feel this way? Gheese, you try to help out and BG>start something that is good for education (God knows this country BG>needs it!) and you get slapped up one side of ya and down the BG>other. I have been very patient and quite while seeing what is I pick up the echos if its any interest, and don't consider them excess baggage, heck, there's been so little traffic in them, why would they be bad echomail? Plannet Connect sends a crapload of file/echo areas, what's the difference if there are more echos that aren't "official", or does _everyone_ just import _everything_ that comes down? --- ><bbs/}{edEd 1.19\NX * Origin: ?,Jason Baginski,9187494139,Tulsa,OK (1:170/906) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 71 To: ADAM FARKAS Date: 03/28/94 1:53p Subj: Tossing Speed Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No AF> What is the average tossing time for the full fido feed? From the AF> posts whichI have read, our time is very short of being average. AF> Adam I have tossed from two different machines Adam and my times are: 286/16 1 1/2 hour. 386/40 45 min. -Joe * SPITFIRE v3.4 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Outer-Limits/PC System/2.1gig 11 CD's (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 72 To: ADAM FARKAS Date: 03/28/94 10:51p Subj: Tossing Speed Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Adam Farkas wrote in a message to All: AF> What is the average tossing time for the full fido feed? AF> From the posts which I have read, our time is very short of AF> being average. On a 386-40 here it takes about 2 hours (using Squish). This machine is also a non-dedicated server for a Lantastic network and is optimised for network performance, not local performance. -=- Craig. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD WALLEN Number: 73 To: DEXTER WRIGHT Date: 03/28/94 5:40p Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=>On 23 Mar 94 12:59:35, Dexter Wright retorted to Martin Belcke<=- -=>about Tic Files<=- Hello Dexter, -> A TIC processor would automatically toss the files into the proper fi -> areas and add the decriptions to the file database. IF you are using -> Wildcat, you would use WCFF. DW> Are there any AreaMgr's that work with WildCat/WCFF for DW> requesting file echo's? If you find one let me know... also I found out real quick that wcff couldn't handle the entire filebone setup in the wcff.cfg so I had to create 3 of them in order to process it all. Alittle more each day... Richard ... Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers. --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 * Origin: <<C>> it on! On-Line After Late Night *BBS* Line #@ (1:3625/454) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 74 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/27/94 10:20a Subj: Dongle and OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd, Several weeks ago I phoned Planet Connect to enquire about using the PC gear under OS/2 ver.2.1. I had heard that there were problems with reading the dongle under OS/2 and decided that I should ask before spending my dough. I'm not sure if it was you I talked to but I was told that everything works fine under 2.1 as long as the parallel port is configured sharable. Trusting the voice on the other end of the phone, I went ahead and ordered a receiver and dongle from Dave at Westonia, still awaiting its arrival. Now I hear from several OS/2 users that the dongle does not work under OS/2 2.1 even if the port is sharable. Does Planet Connect admit there is a problem or have the people reporting problems simply failed to install/configure properly? So far I haven't heard from anyone stating that they have it working under any version of OS/2 although there are rumors that it works under 2.0. Can Planet Connect either dispell the rumors or supply specific details of installation that is known to work under 2.1? In this echo I have seen references to a "dongleless version". These references lead me to believe that PC is working on eliminating the dongle altogether. Is this true? If so, when do you expect the dongleless version to be available? Kim --- Sqed/32 0.87/r15047 * Origin: The Sailboard (403)-854-4309 Hanna, Alberta (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 75 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/28/94 12:37p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd, > I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT > K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, > they should NOT be mixed in with my daily fidonet echomail. You are NOT > authorized to add areas on my system that are not listed in fido, as I > am NOT allowed to do so on your system. When you decide to accept ANY > echo tag that I wish to create on your system, I will in turn let you do > this on my system. Stop these infractions at once! This is considered > annoying behavior. Better still just disconnect? then you will not have any problems at all? Just your phone bill. This is getting real tiring for the rest of us. Just drop your subscription and your whining will then cease for the rest of us as well. This I consider more anoying behavior. I can't believe this sort of ignorance. Boyd is only the trucking outfit that delivers your mail. You can, by choice go to another possibly Ma Bell. You are his downlink, he is not obligated to you in any way. If he provides more, then be gratefull! I don't carry the whole backbone either so what is another few areas that hit the bit bucket? maybe another 10 seconds of processing. ************************************************************************ ** Boyd ** I still beleive you are doing an admirable job with this thing! I still prefer your service over to the phone by a long shot! Just count to 10 when you get a message like this. I know the silent majority is behind you 100%. There are growing pains along the way, but we all go through it just setting up a BBS. ************************************************************************** TTYL Laz --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 76 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 12:42p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT >> want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering these >> K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they > Fine. Anyone else feel this way? Gheese, you try to help out and > start something that is good for education (God knows this country needs > it!) and you get slapped up one side of ya and down the other. I have > been very patient and quite while seeing what is going on in this area. Boyd notice the noise is only coming from one place? The rest of us are more than satisfied. It would take a lot to get me back off of your service. We never could have afforded the services you provide at the reasonable cost using the telephone system. Don't let one bad apple ruin your day!! Ehh? ^^^^ Canuk.. TTYL Laz --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 77 To: GENE BALMAIN Date: 03/28/94 7:42a Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I think BBSing is, was, and always will be whatever the individual sysop chooses to make of it. I think there's room for everybody to do her/his own thing. If some people's philanthropy is a problem for you then you can choose to let it bother you or not that's your own affair. If your business like approach bothers others then that's their own affair. In either case one's persuasion ought not to drive her/him to disgracing themselves publicly the way some have here. GB> All I can say.... is while attending both OneBBSCON Conventions I never GB> heard anyone argue that "BBS's" are hobbys. The last group of attendies GB> were about 2,000 and we are expecting about double that this year! Did you solicit the opinions of all 2000 attendies? And even if you did then ..... so what? All it "proves" is that a small percentage of sysops favor user fees .... not a compelling argument that everybody else should go pay board. GB> I find myself in great company! Channel-1, Exec-PC, GB> Hackers World, Software GB> Creations (#1 BBS 1993), and many other for-profit online systems. In the context of BBSs, "great" is subjective and personal. Your vision of greatness doesn't compel anyone else to follow suit. GB> How many of you "Free Hobby Systems" thought enough of GB> your users to attend GB> such a convention? What you're really saying is "Gene Balmain" is superior; those who didn't attend are inferior. Doesn't wash here, Gene. And how do you know whether or not I run a Free Hobby System? I don't see you on my user list? Kim --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Sailboard Hanna, Alberta (403) 854-4309 (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 78 To: GENE BALMAIN Date: 03/28/94 5:25p Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GB> All I can say.... is while attending both OneBBSCON Conventions I never GB> heard anyone argue that "BBS's" are hobbys. The last group of attendies GB> were about 2,000 and we are expecting about double that this year! GB> I find myself in great company! Channel-1, Exec-PC, GB> Hackers World, Software GB> Creations (#1 BBS 1993), and many other for-profit online systems. Although this appears to be an open, unmoderated echo, I was under the impression that we, as sysops, are expected to moderate ourselves to some degree and stay "on topic". How does your quoted text relate to Planet Connect? Would it not be more appropriate for the Sysop echo? Kim --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Sailboard Hanna, Alberta (403) 854-4309 (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 79 To: CRAIG CLARK Date: 03/28/94 5:35p Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KB> Some of you are far too impressed with yourselves and need to be sat KB> in a corner until you're ready to quit this nana nana boo boo stuff. CC> Well said. I've often heard my nearly 4-year old daughter say "nana CC> nana boo boo" and I've always wondered where on earth it came from. I CC> guess it's a universal thing for children (and sysops). I'm beginning to think maybe the kids get it from the sysops <g>. CC> Thanks for bringing us down to earth; there are more important and CC> productive issues at hand. Let's get on with them. Yup! Kim --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Sailboard Hanna, Alberta (403) 854-4309 (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 80 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 03/28/94 5:41p Subj: HOW FAST DO I NEED? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Actually, I wasn't too worried about the disk capacity since that > can be changed easily enough. My main concern was the CPU's ability > to handle the 19.2 receiver. I should have been more precise in my JD> Kim, JD> When we first started hubbing echomail back in '88, we used both a Tandy JD> 1000SX (8 mhz XT) and a Heath H-151 (4.77 mhz XT). We JD> used a variety of (slow) MFM hard drives with both, JD> including a pair of Tandon TM-603s at 100+ ms access JD> speed. Neither machine would work with an HST and a JD> port speed of 19,200 until we installed 16550s in the JD> serial ports, then both did. I have no idea if an XT JD> with 16550 will work with the PC receiver, but my JD> personal experience suggests that it will. I used XT in the generic sense, actually I mean an XT clone, in fact a Tandy 1000, the original, not the SX. My MFM drives are a little faster than your old Tandons (wow, 100+ ms) and for sure I'll be using 16550s. Thanks for relating your past experience. It sounds like it will work for me and be an inexpensive solution until the dongle becomes usable under OS/2. Kim --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Sailboard Hanna, Alberta (403) 854-4309 (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 81 To: ADAM FARKAS Date: 03/29/94 1:33a Subj: Tossing Speed Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Adam, * In a message originally to All, Adam Farkas said: > What is the average tossing time for the full fido feed? > From the posts which I have read, our time is very short of > being average. Would depend greatly on your hardware, software, and how you have the tossing setup, not to mention how many downlinks etc.... My current setup copies files across a Netware lite network, and processes in the 6th window of Desqview on a 486/66 also running 3 modems/mailers/bbs. I toss fido mail, toss files, gate internet, to around 30 downlinks and it will do the whole deal in about 3 hours or so. John --- GEcho 1.02/JAM/LAN * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM HAAVISTO Number: 82 To: GARY HEDBERG Date: 03/28/94 12:35a Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > These sysops, for some reason think that they deserver 'special access' > on my system and a 'professional courtesy'. Ha! Everyone pays. Especially > the sysops. Hi Gary. Actually, we have a similar policy here as well. It is amazing how the "free system SysOps" are always at the top of the download list, and the first ones to yell when they can't get something <grin>. Maybe some good will come out of the thread after all... We can always hope. >Tom< --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff238/x] * Origin: OnLine Now Thunder Bay ON, Canada (807)-345-1531 (1:229/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM TRAHAN Number: 83 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 4:56p Subj: Re: Ky_da Da Da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Fine. Anyone else feel this way? Gheese, you try to help out and -> start -> something that is good for education (God knows this country needs -> it!) and you get slapped up one side of ya and down the other. I have -> been very patient and quite while seeing what is going on in this -> area. It is going to the dogs. Hello, is there a moderator in -> here???? Anyone want to be the moderator??? I guess this is the straw -> that broke the camels back. You guys want to play hard ball? Fine. -> I'm all ready to take my first swing. I am no public relations man. -> Do you think this is fun sitting here at 2:00 am in the morning, -> reading stuff that does not make sense and then working all day at an -> office taking tech calls and making sure everything is going good. -> Then, for toppers, coming back here at 7:00 pm and working till 1 or -> 2 am again so that you get your mail and files. Anybody want a job? -> -> P.S. Have a nice day! Fealing kinda unappreciated eh? As far as Im concerned, you can send anything you want down! If I don't want it, I don't have to keep it! God, griping about getting something for free is just too much! Ya don't want it?!?!? Erase it! BTW, how much does the job pay? --- QScan v1.062b * Origin: -= The Motherlode BBS =- (601) 332-4827 - 7 Nodes, RngDwn (1:3632/61) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM TRAHAN Number: 84 To: JEFF BOWMAN Date: 03/28/94 5:00p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Get a Lantastic starter pack, their pretty cheap. Or a novell Lite starter pack would work. Pretty much, nowdays you can buy ethernet cards at arround $70 each, you will need one per computer, then the software. You can get Novell Lite at $59 per node, so you can start off pretty cheap! --- QScan v1.062b * Origin: -= The Motherlode BBS =- (601) 332-4827 - 7 Nodes, RngDwn (1:3632/61) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOSEPH LAFERLA Number: 85 To: JOHN LITTLE Date: 03/27/94 2:16p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! 25 Mar 94 20:26, John Little wrote to All: JL> Just tesing to see if these messages are getting out. Loud and clear in Yellowknife, NWT, Canada Greetings from the Far North Joe --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: The Northern Star in Yellowknife, NWT, Canada (1:3414/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY CREMONESE Number: 86 To: HENRY MOORE Date: 03/28/94 10:19a Subj: SERVICES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No HM> user. Those running a BBS as a business I have no problem with. Those HM> wishing users to help support their hobby is acceptable but it is those HM> sysops which claim to be "Free" while accepting "contributions" or HM> "donations" for additional BBS access that gets under my skin at times. HM> If you're running a business...call it that but don't disgrace the HM> sysops truly running a "free access" BBS. It seems the numbers of HM> "free" BBSs are dwindling and this is sad. And you can't tell me that You are a romantic, Sir. I think you have a good grasp of the situation. I hope you have a very long run with your free BBS. I recently called Ward & Randy's BBS and it is still free, too. I also agree with you about the whining, hands out palms up SysOps who claim to run a free BBS. "If you send me some money, I will buy a bigger hard drive." seems to be their battle cry. Ciao' Tony Cremonese tony@acornbbs.com --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: *AcornBBS*Freeport,ME*USA*207-865-3004* (1:326/406) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RALPH ZAUNER Number: 87 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/28/94 1:41p Subj: Re: School echoes available! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <Mar 23 16:36>, Murry Francis (1:2215/5) writes: MF > I think it would be better if Boyd would distribute his backbone MF >seperate than zone 1, god knows who will approach him next with their 31 MF >echo areas that they want him to force down our throats....it could MF >happen, and it seems a bit too easy for Boyd to start his own backbone, I MF >just want him to leave zone 1 backbone alone. I could imagine how pissed I MF >would be if my RHUB made 31 non zone 1 echomail areas mandatory, I think I MF >would have a good case against him. MURRAY LIGHTEN UP! (meant as a shout) If you don't want the echoes then make them pass through and go about your business.. youll never see em and have to worry about them. Some of us may wish to carry them or make them available to our downstream people. It doesn't affect the mail handling in any other way. I personally would like to see BIYD put a lot more echoes up on the bird, that way I can choose what I want on my system, and my people downstream can choose what they want. BTW I am very happy with the current way things are running, If you aren't then send your PC stuff back and go back to using the local phone company. Ralph Zauner --- msged 2.05 * Origin: Creative OS/2 Eccentrics of Wyoming (1:303/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 88 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/28/94 7:46p Subj: Re: Ky_da Da Da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MF> I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you MF> do NOT want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am MF> considering these K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in MF> fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they should NOT be mixed in with my MF> daily fidonet echomail. You are NOT authorized to add areas on MF> my system that are not listed in fido, as I am NOT allowed to MF> do so on your system. When you decide to accept ANY echo tag MF> that I wish to create on your system, I will in turn let you do MF> this on my system. Stop these infractions at once! This is MF> considered annoying behavior. Gosh, do some of you dips ever grow up? My 11 year old daughter can ask better than this! What a putz! --jah ... Quoth the Raven ... "Eat my Shorts!" --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 89 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/28/94 7:46p Subj: Re: School Echoes Availab Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DP>> How about just taking the list from the echo and edit DP>> it.... then add it to the bottem of the FIDONET.NA..? MF> I think it would be better if Boyd would distribute his MF> backbone seperate than zone 1, god knows who will approach MF> him next with their 31 echo areas that they want him to force MF> down our throats.... I seriously doubt Boyd is trying to 'force it down [your] throat". It is there. If someone don't want it (as I don't) we toss it in the bitbucket and it's gone ... nada ... nil. MF> it could happen, and it seems a bit too MF> easy for Boyd to start his own backbone, I just want him to MF> leave zone 1 backbone alone. I could imagine how pissed I MF> would be if my RHUB made 31 non zone 1 echomail areas MF> mandatory, I think I would have a good case against him. Since when did it become mandatory to carry it? Pass over it! It's really simple, even for non-rocket-scientist types like you. We all are receiving certain things we are not going to use via Planet Connect. But most of us, that is, those of us with working grey matter, ignore those things we don't want to utilize and enjoy all the other things that we DO want to carry, at a greatly reduced fee. BTW, your lack of intelligence and your childish posts are excessively annoying. --jah ... Illegitimus non carborundum est --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 90 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 7:46p Subj: Re: Ky_da Da Da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do >> NOT want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering >> these K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or >> fidonet.no, they BG> BG> Fine. Anyone else feel this way? I don't, yet I guess it depends upon the powers that be in FIDOnet. Is this jerk part of that power-hungry fiasco? BG> Gheese, you try to help out BG> and start something that is good for education (God knows BG> this country needs it!) No sh*t! BG> Hello, is there a moderator in here???? Anyone want to be the BG> moderator??? I guess this is the straw that broke the camels BG> back. You guys want to play hard ball? Fine. I'm all ready to BG> take my first swing. I am no public relations man. Do you BG> think this is fun sitting here at 2:00 am in the morning, BG> reading stuff that does not make sense and then working all BG> day at an office taking tech calls and making sure everything BG> is going good. Then, for toppers, coming back here at 7:00 pm BG> and working till 1 or 2 am again so that you get your mail and BG> files. Anybody want a job? P.S. Have a nice day! I'm rather surprised you took all the guff that you have for so long as it is. Personally, if it were me, I'd contact those that are in charge of FIDOnet and abide by what they say. And if they say you can do as you are, I'd tell these other piss-willie wienies to take a flying you-know-what. --jah ... A Living Example of Artificial Intelligence --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 91 To: JASON KLANK Date: 03/28/94 12:14p Subj: Tossing your .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Mar2812:14, Jason Klank of 1:3639/19 writes: > JK> The program will also SCAN for outgoing mail in the above > JK> formats, but does NOT support outgoing UseNet mail (it's > JK> main use is for INCOMING mail). JK> > JK> Freq XSH from 1:3639/7 for the full version > JK> Freq STINKY from 1:3639/7 for the .BAG/Squish only > JK> version. JK> > is it shareware, or a demo, or freeware? JK> It's shareware, but it is not crippled in any way. I wish that your BBS worked better then xsh or whatever. I just got my phone bill and found that I dialed your number 8 times in a row in the evening at two different intervals, for the past week with no response. Maybe you should work on improving your answering sequence - like taking your phone off hook when the computer cannot respond. --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 92 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 03/28/94 12:20p Subj: PCUSENet BAGS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Mar2812:20, Ervin Jay of 1:153/767 writes: EJ> Any ideas where these files really can be freq'd that will yield EJ> the actual files and not simply more .RSP's EJ> Bad, expensive, joke :((( I'll second that! --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GENE BALMAIN Number: 93 To: JOHN LE DUC Date: 03/28/94 4:23p Subj: SERVICES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: SERVICES BY: John Le Duc to Jim Dunmyer on Sun Mar 27 1994 03:17 pm > The reason I started my system was that I could not find a system (free or p > which carried the services I was looking for (as a caller). The discussion > here seems to imply that Doors make a system...doesn't anyone care about 'ot > services'? Around Vegas, systems with online games are 5 for a nickle, 12 t > the dime...but as more people are getting to computing as a serious extensio > of their work or 'other' hobbie, I think you'll find that the number of onli > games a system has will be less a measure of sucess and more a measure of th > sysop's desperation to attract callers. > > There will always be room for boards that provide in-depth support for areas > special interest....somthing that a pay board cannot afford to do. A pay bo > that specialized in, for example, Ham radio would have a tough time making i > but there is STILL a place for such a board...even if the board is (gasp) a > free one. . If you dont know already... John here runs a Geneology mail board <<CHUCKLE>> and brings a wealth of "Experience" to the disscussion. <G> I on the other hand bring almost 10 years of BBS experience (6 years running a free system) along with attending both One BBSCON conventions and the BBS Expo in Washington DC next week. Yea I could be "smart" and stick my head in the sand like John..... For those of you that havent attended such a convention it can be alot of fun... and work! My staff and I sat through atleast 6 hours a day worth of seminars. These included: Privacy & Censorship, Graphics Interface Design for Business Applications, Online Databases, Educational Telecommunications, ISDN Deployment, Chat/Social BBS Roundtable, Electonic Access to Government and Governance, Data Communication Trends, Introduction to TCP/IP, Satellite Communcations for BBSs, BBSs Under Attact The First Amendment, Future of Modem Technology, Women Online, Electronic Democracy, Association of Shareware Professionals, Meet the EFF, Using IVDS Channels to Bypass Telco and Cable into the Home, X.25 Packet Switch Networks for BBSs and about a hundred more!! I think John is pissed off that the game has changed....... Gene Balmain EFF Member #1652 Vegas PlayGround! ASP BBS #99 (first in Nevada) BBS Press Affiliate --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: Vegas PlayGround! * Las Vegas, NV * 702-386-7979 * (1:209/276) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 94 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 9:47p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT >> want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering these >> K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they > Fine. Anyone else feel this way? Gheese, you try to help out > and start something that is good for education (God knows this > country needs it!) and you get slapped up one side of ya and > down the other. I have been very patient and quite while seeing Whooaaa Boyd, settle down there fella. I have no problem with what you are trying to do and I believe you have given everyone ample opportunity to set those areas up as passthrough. I, myself, will be tossing them to the board as soon as I get my new software setup. I think it offers another opportunity to expand one's BBS without a lot of work. I don't know who this character is and have been annoyed with his first couple of posts. I too agree the moderator needs to step forward. I've been with PC since late beta and think you are doing just fine with what you have had to work with. Some folks just don't understand new technologies and some ( this from experience with dealing with public face to face everyday fro the last 10 years) just try to find something to bitch about. To this Murry character, please, be an adult and discuss this rationally without flaming. Otherwise, why don't you take the refund offer PC has for 60 days and let the rest of us enjoy our systems. If out fo the sixty day period, sell it to someone who would appreciate it more than you. Thanks all for letting me air out this pent up anger. --- Gecho/386 1.02+ * Origin: * Futura BBS - Planet Connected In NC! (704)739-0013 * (1:3667/500) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 95 To: DALE WOOD Date: 03/28/94 5:51a Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DW|Mac- |Here's my CONFIG.SYS, some of it gotted wrapped off the screen, but I |think I've got everything here. Remember, Wildmail still runs abysmally |slow(60 mpm or so) and I can only get 499K or so windows with the server |loaded. I'm I'm not thrilled with the way this has worked out, but it |does work(kinda). Sounds like you've got much the same problems I'm having. Wonder where those folks are with configs that toss some 300/min? <g> I can only get 480k per WC window with all the overhead loaded. DW|Anybody else who has a better idea, feel free to jump in here. |Particularly if you've got Planet Connect running under Desqview. That |would solve a few more of my problems if I could run everything on one machi I wouldn't even attempt that (your machine IMHO would drop to a crawl even if you could). To not slow down my BBS machine, I have all the message bases, WM, and TNET on the Satellite machine. That processor brings in PC and tosses all the mail. The BBS machine is not used at all so there is no slow down at all except when WCFF is tossing the files to the BBS machine. Looks like you have pretty much the same setup as I. How do you have SERVER set up? Could I see your STARTNET.BAT? Thanks. .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * I married beneath me -- all women do. --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 1:3632/42 (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 96 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 6:36p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG| Fine. Anyone else feel this way? Gheese, you try to help out and start |something that is good for education (God knows this country needs it!) and Boyd, thanks for adding the K12_Freeway to PC. I, for one, appreciate them. I originally hoped for the entire K12, but since the council voted against it, I'm glad you at least have the Freeway. After all, guys, isn't that what the \BAD directory is for? No echos are added to your system unless you *add* them. Try DEL *.* /y. That ought to get it for you. I don't care for MAC conferences or PCBOARD either for that matter, but I will fight for the right of those that do. Thanks, .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * Internet Address: macbryant@delphi.com --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 1:3632/42 (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 97 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/28/94 6:48p Subj: Re: School echoes availab Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MF| I think it would be better if Boyd would distribute his backbone seperat |than zone 1, god knows who will approach him next with their 31 echo areas t |they want him to force down our throats....it could happen, and it seems a b Why don't you let it rest? It seems you've made your point as misguided as it is. * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * I have bursts of being a lady; it doesn't last. --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 1:3632/42 (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 98 To: JEFF BOWMAN Date: 03/28/94 7:12p Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello, Jeff! JB|her eis a sugestion... use a program by OCR called SORTPKT, you will |toss 380-600 message per minute Thanks. I'll grab it. .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * Internet Address: macbryant@delphi.com --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 1:3632/42 (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 99 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 6:28p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT >> want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering these >> K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they > Fine. Anyone else feel this way? Gheese, you try to > help out and start something that is good for No. Personally, I like the idea, and my users, and my other downlinks are really enjoying the reading of the K12 echos. As you said, we need all the help we can get with out Educational system. I also like it being in the same bunch of packets with the rest of the Fidonet areas. It sure beats having to put together another AKA and setting up seperate packets.. Is there another way of having more than one FTS networks on the bird? Not that the current way is bad. As it seems the other nets are in .QWK format, and not FTSC format. Keep it the way it is. And yes, we do need a moderator. Seems that ALL of the current topics are in left-field. TakeCare, Bill --- GEcho/386 1.02+ * Origin: UTI BBS - Now With USR 28.8 V.FC on (815) 942-4403 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 100 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/30/94 7:50p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: 62 Read: NO Private: No -> Boyd, what does all this have to do with my statement? If you ar -> surrounded by inexperienced people, than you have a problem indeed, I If you continue this thread, I'm going to cut your feed to this echo. Got it? EOT. tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 101 To: CHRISTOPHER JONG Date: 03/30/94 7:52p Subj: This Base Refer: 68 Read: NO Private: No -> I'm just wondering, what do we talk about in this specific base? Anything (with tact) relating to the Planet Connect service. tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 102 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 03/30/94 7:58p Subj: Services Refer: 78 Read: NO Private: No -> Although this appears to be an open, unmoderated echo, I was under th -> impression that we, as sysops, are expected to moderate ourselves to -> degree and stay "on topic". How does your quoted text relate to Plan -> Connect? Would it not be more appropriate for the Sysop echo? Amen. It was only "unmoderated" during the time I was moving to my new house. I'm back now, complete with new node number. 99% of the participants of this echo are fluent in normal FidoNet policy... Here recently, the other 1% has dominated the discussions. My thanks to the 99%. The other 1% can look forward to feed cuts. tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 103 To: TIM TRAHAN Date: 03/30/94 7:59p Subj: Re: Ky_da Da Da Refer: 83 Read: NO Private: No -> BTW, how much does the job pay? I've been curious about this too <seg>. tim moderator p.s. Boyd, you're doing a hell of a job. Don't let the weenies get you down. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NORM HENKE Number: 104 To: JEFF BOWMAN Date: 03/29/94 2:41p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> What is the easy and cheapest way to get a network running 2 copies of NWDOS 7.0 and 2 UTP ethernet cards. --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: PC-OHIO - The Best BBS in America (pcohio.com) (1:157/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 105 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/29/94 2:07p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Murry Francis wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: MF> On the other subject....starting 31 echo's on your own MF> initiative, is setting a scary example of PC's power, no MF> matter how much good these echo's seem, there is always MF> going to be the next guy that approach's you, and it will be MF> up to your discretion as to weather the echo's are worthy, MF> kind of alot of power if left in the wrong hands? I think MF> the backbone has a system to get echo's on the backbone, and MF> it has worked fine so far. You can very easily start your MF> own backbone, and it might be a good idea, if you need a MF> hand to set it up let me know, I am willing to help, I have MF> plenty of time anymore, it would be better than bitching at MF> you. Boyd didnt -start- those echos......He added them to the PC service which is A-OK with the bulk of us......If you dont want them then toss them to the bit bucket....But dont COST the other PC subscribers $$$ because you have a bug up your butt..... greg.shaffer@ascicorp.com ... If you can kill a snake with it, it ain't art. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: At last! We have a *REAL* RC18 :) (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 106 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/29/94 2:11p Subj: Re: School echoes available! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Murry Francis wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: BG> Well then why dont you put a policy complaint against BG>me. I never told you it is manditory to carry these. By the BG>way Zone 1 backbone is still intact is it not? MF> They should not be mixed in with the fidonet nodelist MF> adressing, as soon as you do that, and mix them in with Z1 MF> backbone, then the Z1 backbone is no longer intact. Mix them They are not sent back to the Z1 backbone.....therefor they are not mixed and the backbone has not been hurt..... greg.shaffer@ascicorp.com ... Home of the McTagline. Billions and Billions served. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: At last! We have a *REAL* RC18 :) (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 107 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 03/29/94 10:28p Subj: Re: Need A Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MB> JB|her eis a sugestion... use a program by OCR called SORTPKT, MB> |you will toss 380-600 message per minute MB> Thanks. I'll grab it. OK...who's got that at High Speed and under what FREQ name? --jah ... PETA - People Eating Tasty Animals. --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 108 To: RONNIE TOTH Date: 03/29/94 8:43p Subj: RADIST Announcement Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Mar 28 10:47>, Ronnie Toth writes: RT> Effective April 1, 1994 RT> Barring Unforseen Difficulties RT> RADIST RT> will be RADISTributing RT> via RT> Planet Connect! YES! --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 109 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/29/94 8:29p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->> I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT ->> want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering these ->> K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they -> Fine. Anyone else feel this way? Gheese, you try to help out and start Boyd, I'll be glad to allow him to feed off me and get only what he wants! Just can't please everyone can ya. Keep'em coming!!!!!! Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 110 To: ALL Date: 03/29/94 8:37p Subj: BBS <-> Internet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No How do I do it? Scenario: I feed 6-8 other systems both FidoNet/FileBone. What I'd like to do is continue this and add in InterNet e-mail/UseNet. Where do I start? I know I need a host.domain... Where does this info come from? I have GIGO, FREDGATE, XSH, etc., but they all want that info. I currently have no host to send replies, and had hoped PC would be my choice?!? So in the mean time, what can I do to at least get the receiving/feeding to downlinks started? I can NETMAIL for any info files/example configs folks can provide me with! Thanks, Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK KRIEG Number: 111 To: TONY CREMONESE Date: 03/29/94 9:55a Subj: SERVICES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: SERVICES BY: Tony Cremonese to Gary Hedberg on Sun Mar 27 1994 10:47 am > > > GH> Gary Hedberg | 509 946-2301 voice | gary.hedberg@onestop.sccsi.com > GH> P.O Box 1130 | 509 946-0570 fax | > GH> Richland, WA 99352 | 509 943-0211 BBS | 1:3407/1 > > I am intrigued with the signatures that I have been seeing on different mess > platforms. Your's caught my eye. Is there any document that treats this subj > for beginners? Are there any taboos? I have been experimenting with my own a > would like to develope a final signature and get on with it. One that is OK > both FidoNet and Internet would be best. > > Tony Cremonese > tony@acornbbs.com Just do your thing, man! Be expressive!!! +---------------+---------------------------------------------+ | Mark Krieg | YorkNet: @route:nethost1, 500:500/1 | | Cool Baby BBS | FidoNet: 1:270/612.0 |""""| | | York, Pa USA | Internet: mark.krieg@asacomp.com | ^^ | | | 717-751-0855 | RelayNet: 5244 [( Oo )] | +---------------+-----------------------------.oOO--(__)--OOo-+ --- * Origin: Cool Baby BBS * York, PA * 717-751-0855 * (1:270/612) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HERRBACH Number: 112 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/29/94 12:43p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd, On Mar. 28, 1994 at 02:00 , Boyd Goodin of 1:3615/50 wrote: BG> Fine. Anyone else feel this way? Gheese, you try to help out No, I don't feel that way. John {|-) --- Msgedsq 2.2e * Origin: SPOT!! Don't chew that cabl@#$#%%$^#%HHF NO TERRIER (1:159/950) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 113 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 9:36a Subj: UseNet NewsGroups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, near the end of February we started receiving the new PCUSENET.LST file. In one of your notes that come through in the personal directory you said that these areas should be coming online within a week or so. Well, its now a month later and we are still only getting roughly 30 PCUSENET files a day. When will the feed be picking up? Also, when will you start charging for the feed? I haven't heard much about it and I was just wondering how much advance notice you were planning on giving us before implementing the fee. Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 114 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/28/94 4:10p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NO -> nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering these K12 ec -> echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they should NO -> in with my daily fidonet echomail. You are NOT authorized to add area -> system that are not listed in fido, as I am NOT allowed to do so on y -> system. When you decide to accept ANY echo tag that I wish to create -> system, I will in turn let you do this on my system. Stop these infra -> once! This is considered annoying behavior. Ya know, its people like you that made me QUIT fido and then finally join up with PC. Why don't you give the guy a break. All he is trying to do is save EVERYONE some money by allowing us to return replies to his system rather then make yet another LD call to a different site. You guys and your annoying behavior crap really make me ILL!!! Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 115 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 5:19p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do -> > want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering th -> > K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no -> -> Fine. Anyone else feel this way? Gheese, you try to help out and s -> something that is good for education (God knows this country needs it -> get slapped up one side of ya and down the other. I have been very pa -> quite while seeing what is going on in this area. It is going to the -> Hello, is there a moderator in here???? Anyone want to be the moderat -> guess this is the straw that broke the camels back. You guys want to -> ball? Fine. I'm all ready to take my first swing. I am no public rela -> Do you think this is fun sitting here at 2:00 am in the morning, read -> that does not make sense and then working all day at an office taking -> calls and making sure everything is going good. Then, for toppers, co -> here at 7:00 pm and working till 1 or 2 am again so that you get your -> files. Anybody want a job? -> -> P.S. Have a nice day! -> -> ...Boyd Boyd, I REALLY feel sorry for you. It seems like everytime you try to improve the setup, some ya-ho jumps out from under his rock and tries to make life the pitts for the rest of us! I've seen talk about the policy4 in here, this little round of BS and personally I am SICK of the entire thing. I dropped fido because of this crap and then when I hooked into PC for the NewsGroups, I figured what the heck, I'm getting the full feed, why not. Its really becoming quite clear again. Want a moderator, I'd glady do the job, but be forewarned, I WON'T take the crap thats been going on. Also, well I'm here I might as well express my feeling on your REALTIME endeavors. CONGRADULATIONS!!! If I'm ever in your neck of the woods, I'll buy you a few beer! The reason I joined PC in the first place was because I believe I have an idea of the potential of your satellite setup. And know that I see Bill Gates feels the same way, I guess we're in pretty good company. Gee, maybe he'll listen to the bitchers and put his network of satellites on a delay. What do you think<G>! I was considering adding a pagesat system to my setup as well, but when I read your realtime.txt doc, I was VERY HAPPY. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE keep pushing forward. For those that are ill equipped to handle the future, maybe they should pull the plug on their satellite receiver and keep dreaming of their 286's and 40 meg HD's. You know Boyd, it always seems to be the minority that squeaks the loudest. I think we've proven that here. Keep up the GREAT WORK!!! Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 116 To: JEFF BOWMAN Date: 03/28/94 5:15p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> As of now, I get everything on the one machine and then laplink it al -> over... This is VERY VERY time consuming. -> -> What is the easy and cheapest way to get a network running Computer Shopper has many vendors that sell a Network Lite starter Kit for around $300. That includes 2 copies of NWL, 2 ethernet cards, cable and connectors. Not a bad deal. Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 117 To: FRED WHITTOM Date: 03/28/94 5:16p Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> If ever I have seen an echo in need of a moderator it *has* to be -> -> This thread is disgusting! -> >>>B R A V O<<< Well put! I second that!!! Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY DUN Number: 118 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/29/94 7:30p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <Mar 28 18:40>, George Vandervort (1:382/8@fidonet.org) writes: GV>Hello Murry! GV>Wednesday March 23 1994 07:54, Murry Francis wrote to Boyd Goodin: MF> Boyd, MF> MF> I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT MF> want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering these K12 MF> echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they MF> on my system. Stop these infractions at once! This is considered annoying MF> behavior. Thank you, Murry -+- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. + Origin: Big Rig BBS MF> - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) GV>I find your message to be annoying behavior.. Boy do I agree. Put a lid on it ! PC is doing a great job. Boyd . Keep the faith baby ! The silent majority are on your side. GV>FYI, there are lots of subscribers to the Planet Connect Service that has GV>Nothing to do with FidoNET... GV>PC is not an Excusively FIDO Distribution Service... GV>IMHO, you have serveral choices.. GV>1. Bit Bucket the K12 echo's, GV>2. Terminate your Contract with Planet Connect.. GV>3. Apologize to the 300 Plus Planet Connect Subscribers who may like the GV>services that are being provide by PC.. GV>Regards, GV>George Vandervort - NET382 NEC Couldn't have said it better..... Terry Dun NET321 NEC --- QM v1.31 * Origin: SpaceMet North Greenfield, Ma. (413)772-2030 (1:321/152.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 119 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/29/94 6:07p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > On the other subject....starting 31 echo's on your own > initiative, is setting a scary example of PC's power, no matter > how much good these echo's seem, there is always going to be the I was trying to stay out of this as I don't need a bypass of my own. But. Murry you're so far off on this one how can anyone not intervene. The way Planet Connect has handled this situation and all the others goes completely counter to your expressed fear. Count 1: they carry anything and everything that appears in FIDONET.NA and thus do not even pretend to exercise judgement on the value of the echoes. Count 2: as a pure service courtesy they also carry everything that appears in FIDONET.NO even tho that listing is purely informal and has no status at all. Count 3: in regard to all other networks, including K12.FWY, they must *by*definition* exercise judgement about whether the *network* is worth their effort to transmit to their clients. Once they make that decision, they then afford those networks the same free editorial control as is given fido echos. More than this is not possible. PC cannot exist in an evironment where there is no judgement about "worthiness" or everyone with a pet project would be on the bird and then you'd be having an even bigger bird. The worst of your complaint is that it is trivial for you to bit bucket the echos you don't want wihout trouncing everyone else. Are you suggesting that right now you process every single echo in the fidonet backbone into msg bases? Or do you bit bucket quite a few of them? Most of us bit bucket many, but even if you do not, there is nothing preventing you from doing so with the K12.FWY echos if you see no value in them. Finally, even if I agreed with your point about the echos being included in the fido bundles -- which I do not -- you could have some success approaching PC with some suggestions and positive response. Beating Boyd over the head because you're annoyed with something that eases almost everyone elses job not only won't get you anywhere with Boyd, it makes the rest of us wonder why you want to complicate *our* lives. .glenn. --- GE386 1.02 * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 120 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/29/94 6:11p Subj: School echoes available! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > They should not be mixed in with the fidonet nodelist > adressing, as soon as you do that, and mix them in with Z1 > backbone, then the Z1 backbone is no longer intact. Mix them This is simply factually incorrect. In our net we have at least a dozen echos of our creation that we have "mixed in" and for a good long while we transported GateNet along the way as well. To my best information there are a schmear of non-fidonet echos transported in the same bundles including such goodies as all the filebone administrivative and sysop echos. There are no consequences for the integrity of the backbone unless an idiot creates inappropriate feeds. > with USEnet, see what happens.....I don't think you would like Again, you are off the mark. Over the next year I hope to offer the newsgroups. I will not force every one of my downlinks to convert the newsgroups with gating software, but instead will gate them on my system and then "mix them in" with the rest of the echos I distribute. If you are technically incapable of doing this, there are many who would willing assist you. Because done properly, "what will happen" is saving a lot of people a lot of work. Try it and see what happens. Understand this, there is NOTHING in any fidonet rule that prevents piggy-backing mail from other networks per se. Gating restrictions are a seperate matter and are intended to prevent a variety of problems. But so long as Boyd is not sending othernets to his fidonet backbone link without permission, he can send stuff to us in any form he likes. If he could agreement from the original sponsors, he could indeed include RIME and CRS and all the rest in the same bundles as the fidonet stuff. And wouldn't that make things a lot easier for everyone to administer?? .glenn. --- GE386 1.02 * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 121 To: PHIL MILLER Date: 03/29/94 8:57p Subj: Re: Utilities Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Phil! In a message to Joe Lyda <03/28/94> Phil Miller wrote: PM> PM> On Mon 28-Mar-1994 02:24 thus spake JOE LYDA unto ALL: PM> JL> The results of these files have helped me to complety automate every PM> JL> except the few files or .tic's left behind. PM> I have written a program to help clean up those extra .TIC's & files PM> very quick and easily. If you would like a copy Freq TICKPROC from PM> 1:2201/200. Features of version 2.2 include : I too have these abilities here and can manipulate the files in several ways, however, I do understand the recievers flaws as well, a file can be sent and the tic lost for error failure or vice versa, I search the archives to see if a file has a description and read it determin what kind of file it gets ticked, if not a description it gets deleted deleted, takes a couple of minutes a day. The .tic files are auto perged after 4 days old and I see no reason to view their contents. I mostlikely will freq it just to see what you have done and how you go about it, I personaly do not want to see the file or tic until it is in my database on the bbs. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Aw Honey... just one more message, honest... --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRAY PLETSCH Number: 122 To: RONNIE TOTH Date: 03/29/94 12:45p Subj: RADIST Announcement Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Effective April 1, 1994, Barring Unforseen Difficulties, RADIST > will be RADISTributing via Planet Connect! Excellent news Ronnie...! REgards...Murray --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Family Research BBS, Nanaimo, BC, CANADA 604-758-8157 (1:351/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 123 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/29/94 2:12a Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, * In a message originally to Murry Francis, Boyd Goodin said: > > I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT > > want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering these > > K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they > > Fine. Anyone else feel this way? I don't... > Gheese, you try to help out and start something that is good for education > (God knows this country needs it!) Amen! I hear ya. > I have been very patient and quite while > seeing what is going on in this area. It is going to the > dogs. I'll agree with that too... > Hello, is there a moderator in here???? Anyone want to > be the moderator??? Not me, too much bickering going on, it's pretty hard to wade through the useful messages anymore. > I guess this is the straw that broke the > camels back. You guys want to play hard ball? Fine. I'm all > ready to take my first swing. I am no public relations man. > Do you think this is fun sitting here at 2:00 am in the > morning, reading stuff that does not make sense and then > working all day at an office taking tech calls and making > sure everything is going good. Then, for toppers, coming back > here at 7:00 pm and working till 1 or 2 am again so that you > get your mail and files. Anybody want a job? I don't envy you at all, and NO I don't need a job that badly :) I want to keep my hair for a few more years. We all know that PC and yourself is TRYING very hard to provide the best, and most for the least amount. It is apresiated here trust me! I also believe that most of us that are connected to PC realize that there are going to be things we want, things we don't. Aspects of the service we like and ones we don't etc... At this point I don't think it would be to difficult for US ALL to kinda go with the flow a bit. It'll all work out and the service to us all will improve. The K12 thing is really not that big a deal, those that want fine, those that don't take a few min. to setup the areas as passthru with no connections and POOF! they disapear. Just like the A_config.sky, want it fine, don't sent it to >>NUL. In the mean time, you Boyd/PC, and the guy's writing the WONDERFUL util's like PCFU and skymail, might consider adding a hex file name to your software and setups so that you could at some point in the future send these *extras* that are not Z1 in a mail bundle to a point number off 3615/51. And accept the inbound from us to the same point number off 3615/50. For that matter PCFU could do that now, with just a different command line in my batch file :) (( That reminds me I need to send John a Buck :) )) Just an idea, for you to think about... Shoot I wouldn't even have to add an AKA on my system, just toss from the secure path, and place the 3615/50.xxx in my tosser's connection list, so that you would get return mail. John --- GEcho 1.02/JAM/LAN * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 124 To: JEFF BOWMAN Date: 03/29/94 2:22a Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jeff, * In a message originally to All, Jeff Bowman said: > Hello All! > After the proposal of going REALTIME. I built another machine > for the > dish. > As of now, I get everything on the one machine and then > laplink it all > over... This is VERY VERY time consuming. > What is the easy and cheapest way to get a network running > <<sig.imp Probably a coupla ethernet cards, cable, and Lantastic AI, or if you are entilted to the reduced upgrade to Novell/DRdos 7.0 John --- GEcho 1.02/JAM/LAN * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALTER CADE Number: 125 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 4:39p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No <Boyd was saying to an unhappy camper> -> Do you think this is fun sitting here at 2:00 am in the morning, read -> that does not make sense and then working all day at an office taking -> calls and making sure everything is going good. Then, for toppers, co -> here at 7:00 pm and working till 1 or 2 am again so that you get your -> files. Anybody want a job? -> BOYD Hey Boyd! WHOA!!!! He is a minority. Wish you would have just ignored his message! He is being unfair to us all. NO WE ALL DO NOT AGREE WITH HIM. Actually I started to reply to his message and decided I would just start something. <G>. You send us what you can get your hands on......We will deal with it one way or another. The K12 stuff so far is free....so far I am just pasiinig it thru.....But I know its there and in time, knowing its there I'll bet I have some users that may want it then Ill put it up. Same goes for a lot of other stuff you send. I think that you did not intend to be a FIDO ONLY feed, am I correct. He is just going to have to deal with it. The rest of us do. And Ill bet ....time permitting I can find users out there interested in EVERYTHING I am getting, I just gotta get it all working right. NO I do not want to Moderate this echo <G><G>. Good luck to the soul that does <G>. TELL HIM TO GET OFF IT AND LEAVE US ALL HAPPY CUSTOMERS BE !!!!!! Walter Cade....A happy and loyal PC Customer --- WM v3.10/93-0997 * Origin: Arti BBS (903) 758-ARTI Multi-Line 28,8 Hayes V.fc (1:398/2.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAT FINNERTY Number: 126 To: ALL Date: 03/24/94 11:14p Subj: Crash Course on PC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Folks... I'm sure you've heard it before... but I haven't... I'm the NC/NEC of Net 3627 and we're getting ourselves ready for a PC hookup real quick. We've got a 12' mesh dish w/LNB, and all the wiring. And a 386DX40 w/co-proc, 640 meg drive, 4 megs, and a Zyxel for outbounds. PC says the descrambler is "Back-ordered".... I'll take a demo or used one... damaged... I can do board level repairs. Is there anything else I'm gonna need (besides patience) to get this thing working for us? Any help files out there...? Thanks for any hints, tips, or suggestions to get-a-life :) Pat 1:3627/108 & /0 & /1 ad infinitum * SLMR 2.1a * I just got my phone bill. Buy AT&T stock now! --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: BeachMail... We be Jammin'! - SysOps Only! (1:3627/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 127 To: JOHN LE DUC Date: 03/29/94 7:08p Subj: SERVICES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > JD> for free on mine?" The answer is, the pay board has to have > JD> something that a free board doesn't. And a "successful" one > JD> does. > > Sounds like your saying that only a pay board can be successful <G>. Absolutely NOT TRUE, John. My point was that a pay board must have something a free board doesn't if it is to be successful, because all things being equal, the lower price will win. > The reason I started my system was that I could not find a system > (free or pay) which carried the services I was looking for (as a > caller). The discussion here seems to imply that Doors make a > system...doesn't anyone care about 'other services'? Around Vegas, Your points are well-taken, but it isn't just a lot of doors that make a good system. As I said earlier, there's plenty of room for special-interest boards such as yours, free or pay, there's room for the free, general-interest boards, and there's certainly room for the outright commercial systems such as several represented here. It is a big mistake for the sysop of a board in one of these catagories to knock sysops of the others. --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 128 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 03/29/94 7:10p Subj: HOW FAST DO I NEED? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I used XT in the generic sense, actually I mean an XT clone, in fact > a Tandy 1000, the original, not the SX. My MFM drives are a little Please keep us informed as to your success or lack thereof! --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 129 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/29/94 7:38p Subj: RE: KY_DA DA DA Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, Why not put that K_12 stuff in a seperate RULEBASE or whatever you call it so those who don't want it can send it to NULL? That makes it easy for you, and easy for us. --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LE DUC Number: 130 To: GENE BALMAIN Date: 03/29/94 2:35p Subj: SERVICES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Gene Balmain wrote in a message to John Le Duc: GB> I think John is pissed off that the game has changed....... No I am pissed off that you think that going to a convention gives you the right to decide who can be in that hobbie and who can't. What gave you the right to tell someone to get out of BBSing? Don't answer with that same kind of carp you just sent about BBSCON ect, that didn't give you the right...so EXACTLY what gives you that right? The fact that you are a "hanger on" at a Pay BBS? Your not the sysop, Frank Sener is. Does being a Co-sysop of a pay BBS give you the belief that you have the right to decide who can run a BBS? TTYL, John --- * Origin: The GeneSplicer's BBS-Las Vegas,NV (1:209/720) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 131 To: TONY CREMONESE Date: 03/29/94 10:22a Subj: SERVICES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tony Cremonese writes: GH> Gary Hedberg | 509 946-2301 voice | gary.hedberg@onestop.sccsi.com GH> P.O Box 1130 | 509 946-0570 fax | GH> Richland, WA 99352 | 509 943-0211 BBS | 1:3407/1 TC> I am intrigued with the signatures that I have been seeing TC> on different message platforms. Your's caught my eye. Is TC> there any document that treats this subject for beginners? TC> Are there any taboos? I have been experimenting with my own TC> and would like to develope a final signature and get on with TC> it. One that is OK for both FidoNet and Internet would be TC> best. Generally, on the internet, 4 lines is the maximum, unless there is a real good reason. On fidonet, signatures are highly frowned upon but done anyways. If used, keep especially short. Don't post an internet address like user.name@f##.n##.z##.fidonet.org, as that is highly redundant - only post an email address if you have one other than your default. As to tech documents, etc - the only documents one can show you are the phone bills. I'll be glad to show you mine >:-) Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd-g2+ * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROY TIMBERMAN Number: 132 To: GARY HEDBERG Date: 03/28/94 11:03a Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tryin' to lighten up the conversation a bit. They do seem to scratch and claw at each other in here don't they? <g> roy Roy * 1st 1.11 #106bt * All things are difficult before they are easy. --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff013/c] * Origin: Sound Advice - 24 Nodes (816)436-4516 (1:280/333) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 133 To: DEAN LAKE Date: 03/29/94 7:40p Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello, Dean! DL|And another suggestion....SORTPKT helps considerably for tossing |to your own message base. But another utility, PSORT, will work |for your own message bases as well as downlink packets. PSORT is |much faster than SORTPKT (make that *MUCH* faster). It sorts |messages by area, and then chronologically within each area. You |can set PSORT up (with a small batch file) to run each time you |run WMail as "program to run after unpacking" in WMCONFIG. |Depending on how many echos you toss, this can reduce your toss |time considerably by pre-filtering out the echos you don't want. |My total toss time was cut in half. I will look for PSORT. I did start using SORTPKT and it helps tremendously! I had to figure out how to get it to work. I think it have. This is in my batch file. WM TOSS SCAN NETMAIL (with the PRETOSS option set in WM) SORTPKT WM PRETOSS Is this the way to do it? I haven't been able to figure out any other way to get those .PKT files extracted from the .TU? and into the PRETOSS directory without running the first line. With the above setup, I went from the 60/min to 181/min. That's three times as fast if my math is correct. <g> DL|This idea won't increase your tossing speed, but it will make |sure that WildMail doesn't waste time dealing with echos you (and |your downlinks) don't carry. I post just about *all* the Fido conferences - over 20,000 per day. Only a few new ones I haven't added, and I don't downlink to anyone else. DL|You can FREQ PSORT from 1:203/7707 and get the latest copy. Be |sure to get the necessary companion file DOS4GW at the same time. |PSORT won't run without it. I don't run DesqView here, not sure |if PSORT will work under DV. It does work fine with QEMM 7.03 |and LANtastic. I'll check it out. Thanks. DL|If you want, I can send you a text file of my setup. Won't take |you long to get it going. I surely would appreciate it. I'll be glad to FREQ it too if you'll give me a name. I've been in Fido for over two years, but it wasn't til PC that I realized I didn't have WM configured properly. Of course then I didn't carry that many echoes, so it didn't really matter. Thanks again, Dean. .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * I have bursts of being a lady; it doesn't last. --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 1:3632/42 (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 134 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/29/94 8:18p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No |be up to your discretion as to weather the echo's are worthy, kind of alot o ^^^^ Maybe you *should* take the K12 echoes, Murry. This is one of the worst grammatical faux pas I as a teacher have to endure. You just might learn something. <g> Remember, education is a lifetime pursuit. .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * Internet Address: macbryant@delphi.com --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 1:3632/42 (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROY MUMAW Number: 135 To: STEVE VOLD Date: 03/29/94 9:23a Subj: Re: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to Jason Baginski <03-25-94 09:31> Steve Vold wrote: SV > Why the heck would you want to run something for a bunch of people SV > for free??? I don't get that at all. How about "community service" and a realization that not everything has to be "me-first?" Why donate to charity ("unless its like [you're] rich and have nothing better to do with your life :)")? Why carry echos like M_P_D or ABLED or SPINAL_INJURY or join ADANet(tm), as many of the ones most interested are least able to pay? Can't (won't) speak for anyone else running a free board, but I'm running my free board as a service to the community. I don't measure success by quantity of callers, but by the quality of enjoyment of those who do call. Matter of fact, that yardstick would also work on pay boards, too <grin>. --- QuickBBS 2.76a * Origin: Chthonic BBS - Local Node (1:206/2601) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROY MUMAW Number: 136 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/29/94 9:35a Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to Murry Francis <03-28-94 02:00> Boyd Goodin wrote: BG > Do you think this is fun sitting here at 2:00 am in the morning, BG > reading stuff that does not make sense and then working all day at an BG > office taking tech calls and making sure everything is going good. BG > Then, for toppers, coming back here at 7:00 pm and working till 1 or BG > 2 am again so that you get your mail and files. Anybody want a job? What's the pay and do I have to commute daily from shakey/smokey California? <grin> --- QuickBBS 2.76a * Origin: Chthonic BBS - Local Node (1:206/2601) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRETT HAYS Number: 137 To: STEVE MOSS Date: 03/27/94 1:14a Subj: OFFLINE MAIL READER Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SMUse them both and pick the best one for *you*..! They each have their SMindividual strengths and weaknesses. I'm a registered user of both SMprograms, and WaveRider fits my usage better at this time. Before SMmaking SMyour final decision, use the most recent public versions of both SMprograms. SMWaveRider v1.10 SMCmpQwk v1.31 Didn't I read somewhere about a version 1.41 of CMPqwk that had considerable new features, bug fixes? Brett Brett Hays --- * WaveRdr 1.01 [NR] * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: HighSierra Online * Lake Tahoe CA * 916/577-4438 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRETT HAYS Number: 138 To: FORREST RAYBURN Date: 03/27/94 1:17a Subj: CMPQWK Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No FR No matter who you ask about OLR's you will get the same answer. Try FRthem both, compare them, and then pick the one that will meet your FRneeds, wants, and desires. FR <== Forrest ==> I think you are probably right, there just seem to be so many and I though it might be useful if someone who has experience with almost all of them could post a little pros/cons message about the relative features of each like: WaveRDR: solid/bluewave & QWK support, truncates quoting CMPQWK: ?????????? Paperboy: provides built in ANSI w/out external viewer, very configurable, database export, buggy in current BETA VBReader: ??????????????????? ?????????? Can anyone fill in the wholes here? Brett Brett Hays --- * WaveRdr 1.01 [NR] * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: HighSierra Online * Lake Tahoe CA * 916/577-4438 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RIC WALSH Number: 139 To: JEFF BOWMAN Date: 03/29/94 6:49p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Jeff ! Wednesday March 23 1994 21:29, Jeff Bowman wrote to All: JB> What is the easy and cheapest way to get a network running JB> <<sig.imp Steal one .... (thats the cheapest) Lantastic AI (adaptor independant) with some cheap Ethernet (NE2000 clones) is good & cheap & legal. Ric --- GoldED 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: D.M.U.G. BBS Dayton NEC (1:110/69) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 140 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/30/94 3:08p Subj: School echoes available! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Murry! Monday March 28 1994 20:30, Murry Francis wrote to Boyd Goodin: BG>> Well then why dont you put a policy complaint against BG>> me. I never told you it is manditory to carry these. By the BG>> way Zone 1 backbone is still intact is it not? MF> MF> They should not be mixed in with the fidonet nodelist adressing, as MF> soon as you do that, and mix them in with Z1 backbone, then the Z1 MF> backbone is no longer intact. Mix them with USEnet, see what happens.....I MF> don't think you would like that reaction either. How about Rime....try MF> that one. The point I was making was that I do have grounds to complain to MF> you, if I wanted to file a policy complaint it would have been done long MF> ago, that is not what this communications hobby is about with me.....I MF> feel that we can communicate and resolve any problems. Remeber this is not MF> a hobby with you, it is a business, and you get paid to hear my input on MF> your service to me, my suggestion to you is that you swallow what you have MF> before you bite off another piece, you are trying to implement to many MF> things at one time, and you are not surrounded with "over achievers" down MF> their, seems like you are one overworked person, and you truly do need MF> someone on your team to pull the load too. ...Murry -+- MF> GEcho/InterMail/RA.. + Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - MF> Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ***> [Soap-Box Mode ON] IMHO.. You should Drop your Planet Connect Connection and return to the Phone line connection, where you will no longer have access to all the Added benifits provided by Planet Connect.. That way, you can Keep your Precious FIDO Pure Elision in tack... If you Pulled your head out of the sand long enough to look around.. you might Notice there are maybe a Dozen or so echo's still being distributed via the Standard Fido Backbone Phone line connection, that are not listed in the FIDONET.NA OH, BTW, you don't seem to have any trouble whining and bitching in this Public Echo, that also is not listed in Fidonet.na?? you have no right dictating to the rest of the 300 Plus Customers of Planet Connect, what should or should not be distributed.. PC is NOT a FIDONET Backbone.. they ONLY make available what they get from the Southern Star, to Systems that Contract for their services, that jus happens to include Fido Echo's along with a Whole lot More.. If you not happy with their Service.. then PLEASE Jump ship and go fly a Kite or something, IMHO, I think a lot of satisfied PC Customers would be happy to see you give your Money and your LIP Service back to the Phone company.. ***> [Soap-Box Mode OFF] Regards, George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb --- Alexi/Mail 2.00a6 (#7) * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat <tm> - 14.4k DS-HST v32bis (FidoNet 1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 141 To: CHRISTOPHER JONG Date: 03/30/94 3:22p Subj: This Base Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello CHRISTOPHER! Sunday March 27 1994 12:07, CHRISTOPHER JONG wrote to ALL: CJ> I'm just wondering, what do we talk about in this specific base? CJ> CJ> -+- GOMail v1.2 [92-0513] CJ> + Origin: The Shareware Exchange! [415]992-4320 <Daly City, CA> CJ> (1:125/85) Technical aspects of the Planet Connect Satellite Feed.. George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb --- Alexi/Mail 2.00a6 (#7) * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat <tm> - 14.4k DS-HST v32bis (FidoNet 1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DALE WOOD Number: 142 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 03/30/94 6:44a Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to Dale Wood <03/28/94> Mac Bryant wrote: MB> DW|Mac- MB> |Here's my CONFIG.SYS, some of it gotted wrapped off the screen, but I MB> |think I've got everything here. Remember, Wildmail still runs abysmall MB> |slow(60 mpm or so) and I can only get 499K or so windows with the serv MB> |loaded. I'm I'm not thrilled with the way this has worked out, but it MB> |does work(kinda). MB> Sounds like you've got much the same problems I'm having. Wonder where MB> those folks are with configs that toss some 300/min? <g> I can only MB> get 480k per WC window with all the overhead loaded. MB> DW|Anybody else who has a better idea, feel free to jump in here. MB> |Particularly if you've got Planet Connect running under Desqview. That MB> |would solve a few more of my problems if I could run everything on one MB> I wouldn't even attempt that (your machine IMHO would drop to a crawl MB> even if you could). To not slow down my BBS machine, I have all the MB> message bases, WM, and TNET on the Satellite machine. That processor MB> brings in PC and tosses all the mail. The BBS machine is not used at MB> all so there is no slow down at all except when WCFF is tossing the MB> files to the BBS machine. MB> Looks like you have pretty much the same setup as I. How do you have MB> SERVER set up? Could I see your STARTNET.BAT? Here's my STARTNET.BAT. Right now I fire it up manually when I need to move mail from the PC workstation to the BBS machine. I like your idea about moving all mail operations onto the workstation. Believe I'll give that a try when I reconfigure my system to running each node from a workstation. I've made no modifications to this other then REMing out the LOADHI statements since I'm running it from DOS. Don't really have much of a clue as to whether or not it might be correct as this is what was configured for me by the software setup routine. @ECHO OFF ECHO>LANISUP.NOW SET LAN_DIR=C:\LANTASTI.NET SET LAN_CFG=C:\LANTASTI PATH C:\LANTASTI;%PATH% SHARE /L:200 ::C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 AEX IRQ=15 IOBASE=300 VERBOSE ::C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 AILANBIO ::C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 REDIR DRAGNET_BBS LOGINS=4 ::C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 SERVER AEX IRQ=15 IOBASE=300 VERBOSE AILANBIO REDIR DRAGNET_BBS LOGINS=4 SERVER NET LOGIN/WAIT \\DRAGNET_BBS DRAGNET_BBS NET USE H: \\DRAGNET_BBS\C-DRIVE NET USE I: \\DRAGNET_BBS\D-DRIVE NET USE J: \\DRAGNET_BBS\E-DRIVE NET USE K: \\DRAGNET_BBS\F-DRIVE NET USE L: \\DRAGNET_BBS\G-DRIVE NET USE LPT1: \\DRAGNET_BBS\@PRINTER NET LPT TIMEOUT 10 NET POSTBOX * WCE 1.5/2064 * Taglines that make you go "Hmmm..." --- WM v3.10/92-0250 * Origin: Dragnet BBS Oceanside,CA. 619-940-1985 (1:202/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD WALLEN Number: 143 To: MARTY DUPLISSEY Date: 03/30/94 9:51a Subj: Re: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=>On 15 Mar 94 14:37:28, Marty Duplissey retorted to All<=- -=>about Fix For Wcff and raid<=- Hello Marty, MD> If Anyone is interested I have wipped up a fix for using raid with MD> Wcff. It is in testing right now and if all goes well will be put up MD> for freq in the next few days. This utility will allow you to make MD> multiple passes at raid messages while tweeking the appropiate MD> wcff.cfg file. Let me know if there is any interest before we waste MD> the bandwith to distribute it. I'm interested... the node handling mail from the bird is tossing the files with wcff and I had to use 3 config files... one would reboot the system, 2 would just lockup... not fun on a network...<g> Alittle more each day... Richard ... Go straight to the docs. Do not pass GO. Do not collect $200! --- * Origin: <<C>> it on! On-Line After Late Night *BBS* Line #@ (1:3625/454) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 144 To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 03/30/94 4:54a Subj: Tossing your .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Sloan wrote in a message to Jason Klank: DS> just got my phone bill and found that I dialed your number 8 DS> times in a row in the evening at two different intervals, DS> for the past week with no response. Maybe you should work on Whew! I thought it was just me that was having problems getting that file, Dave. --)@ Patty @(-- --- timEd/2-B11 * Origin: My Secret Garden BBS - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 145 To: BILL CLARK Date: 03/30/94 3:57p Subj: Utilities Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Bill! In a message to Joe Lyda <03/29/94> Bill Clark wrote: BC> In a msg on <Mar 28 02:24>, JOE LYDA of 1:3622/1000 writes: BC> JL> I have written 3 utilities that I use to handle the mail and BC> JL> files after PCFU sends them to my Toss directory. MailMove will BC> Joe, why don't you ask Boyd for a Password for PCUTILS and Hatch those fi BC> into PCUTILS. You could then distribute the files via the satellite, and BC> sure there are many out there that would take advantage of them. BC> Same goes to other utility programmers writing software to address Planet BC> Connect "pecularities". The file area exists for distribution of those t BC> of files; why not take advantage of it? Will do it, Thanks. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * In a VERY weak moment, I started a BBS. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 146 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 03/30/94 6:13p Subj: Re: Bbs <-> Internet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CW> How do I do it? CW> Scenario: CW> I feed 6-8 other systems both FidoNet/FileBone. What I'd CW> like to do is continue this and add in InterNet CW> e-mail/UseNet. Where do I start? CW> I know I need a host.domain... Where does this info come CW> from? HOLONET can provide you with a host.domain for, I believe, $50 ( or was it $75? -- have to check in BoardWatch). Holonet can also provide you with a return feed for UseNet and Internet. ASA CompuHelp can also provide you with a return feed, but I'm not sure about getting you a host.domain. --jah ... Ben Dover & C. Howit Feels -- Attorneys at Law --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 147 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 03/30/94 6:27p Subj: RE: KY_DA DA DA Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Why not put that K_12 stuff in a seperate RULEBASE or whatever you c -> those who don't want it can send it to NULL? That makes it easy for y -> easy for us. Jim, I had suggested the same thing at one time. However, after talking with Boyd, I understand the reasoning for the K12 being in \bridge\files area. If it has it's own rulebase, then we would have to call a different system to return mail as Boyd's inbound would consider the mail to be bad messages. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS HILL Number: 148 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 03/30/94 9:51p Subj: KY_DA DA DA Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Jim Dunmyer to Boyd Goodin <=- JD> Boyd, JD> Why not put that K_12 stuff in a seperate RULEBASE or whatever you JD> call it so those who don't want it can send it to NULL? That makes it JD> easy for you, and easy for us. I second that idea. --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: BabbleNet TBBS - Planet Connected in MI! (1:159/440) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS HILL Number: 149 To: RICK WEBER Date: 03/30/94 9:53p Subj: LANTASTIC AI Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Rick Weber to All <=- RW> Has anyone had the problem with Lantastic of not running their RW> satellite machine. Works fine here in Lansing with Lantastic 5.0 and some 386s and 486s and PC. --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: BabbleNet TBBS - Planet Connected in MI! (1:159/440) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN CAMPBELL Number: 150 To: ALL Date: 03/30/94 8:04p Subj: Planet Connect Reciever Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I just had a problem with my Planet Connect Data Reciever that started showing almost 90% errors... Planet Systems sent me a new data reciever with no questions asked, and shipped it next day.. However, as hot as this thing runs, I can't help to believe that it was not a tempature related failure.... I have since come up with a simple solution to hopefully settle this problem... A radio shack 12 Volt Mini Fan (R/S PN 273-244), and a 9 volt dc wall adapter... Pointed the fan into the side of the reciever, and bingo stays very cool. For about $20.00 (well worth the insurance of downtime and missed data) is about the whole deal, and is very quiet to boot.... Must give a hand to Planet Systems, in particular Johnny, He (they) have really be great at tech support for me... John --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff276/b] * Origin: Sparkies Machine BBS (703) 266-4299 (1:2602/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 151 To: JASON BAGINSKI Date: 03/30/94 12:49p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jason Baginski wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: JB> Plannet Connect sends a crapload of file/echo areas, what's JB> the difference if there are more echos that aren't JB> "official", or does _everyone_ just import _everything_ that JB> comes down? What I would like to see is people being able to add echos to the fidonet downlink from PC just by sending it to boyd. We have got some nifty echos out there, and by just sending it to one place we can virtually add it to the backbone without any of the current hassles, it's a great deal. --- timEd-B11 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LITTLE Number: 152 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 12:31p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Murry Francis: BG> going to the dogs. Hello, is there a moderator in here???? BG> Anyone want to be the moderator??? I guess this is the straw Who is the moderator of this group? Thanks, John --- * Origin: Split HoriZons*(905)276-4276/6466*1.7Gigs (1:259/300) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 153 To: ALL Date: 03/31/94 12:46a Subj: Cycles Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi All! What time does the "first" cycle of the day begin? I thought it was 7:45am so I was firing up PC around 7:40..... This doesn't seem to be correct. Rds, -=Don=- ... Richmond's 1st Satellite Connection --- timEd-B11 * Origin: G.R.C. BBS <Richmond,Va> <Multi-Node> <804-737-3932> (1:264/177) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PHIL MILLER Number: 154 To: RICK WEBER Date: 03/30/94 3:18p Subj: Re: Lantastic AI Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Sun 27-Mar-1994 23:47 thus spake Rick Weber unto All: RW> Has anyone had the problem with Lantastic of not running their satellite RW> machine. Everything works fine except when I try to bring up PCSKY. RW> The software comes up receives 13 to 15 blocks and then locks up tighter RW> than a drum. It seems it's not seeing the key on the printer port or RW> something. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Rick I'm using Lan AI 5.0 and everything has been running real smooth. --- GoldED 2.42a/Intermail 2.26/FastEcho 1.40/TAG 2.6F3b Beta * Origin: NET 2201 Echo Operations (Fidonet: 1:2201/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PHIL MILLER Number: 155 To: ALL Date: 03/31/94 12:48a Subj: TICKPROC v2.4 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No For the many of you that have been netmailing me to see when the new version of TickProc would be available, I am happy to announce that TickProc v2.4 is now available for file request. TickProc allows you to manage ticks and their attached file with out having to dig out your text editor and read the tick files manually. TickProc is not automated, there are already good programs available like Allfix that will do that for you. TickProc simply makes cleaning up loose tick files a breaze. FEATURES OF VERSION 2.4 : · One tick per line on the screen allows you to view several ticks at a time. · Deletion of a tick file also removes its associated file if present. · Move a tick and its associated file to another drive or directory. · Rename the area name in a tick file for rerouting. · Output list of files (with its area name, size, and description) to a text file or printer. · Tagging operations allow changes to multiple files at one time. · View the actual tick file for seenby's or whatever. · View FileBone.NA to read descriptions or areas. · View the current compressed file (if present) in Shez. · Configuration stored in .EXE file. · Sort list of files by areaname, filename, size, or extension. · Tag files by filespec. · Generate tick files for orphan files. · Delete only Tick file. · Ability to rename tick file if extension is not *.TIC --- * Origin: NET 2201 Echo Operations (Fidonet: 1:2201/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 156 To: ALL Date: 03/31/94 1:32a Subj: INBOUND BAD ECHOMAIL AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Areafix v1.30, (C) 1988-92 by Greg Dawson & George Peace (1:270/101) Originally Written by Greg Dawson. Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Netmail'... Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Badecho'... Reading 'C:\Rbbs\Areas.Bbs'... Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18' Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'TW_FILE' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'MATRIX' Address 266/76 not authorized to create area 'FTSC' Address 140/72 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 3811/340 not authorized to create area 'THEWORD' Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'VIRGINIA_BBS' Address 11/3 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 11/3 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'MATRIX' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'LOST' Address 11/600 not authorized to create area 'AIRMED' Address 123/301 not authorized to create area 'GA_SALE' Address 123/301 not authorized to create area 'FL_LIVING' Address 123/301 not authorized to create area 'GA_SYSOP' Address 123/301 not authorized to create area 'NCSALE' Address 123/301 not authorized to create area 'NC_ANYTHING' Address 123/301 not authorized to create area 'ENC_ECHO' Address 123/301 not authorized to create area 'FLSINGLES' Address 123/301 not authorized to create area 'GA_CHAT' Address 108/280 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 108/280 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'AUG-GEN' Address 2800/10 not authorized to create area 'KANSAS' Address 3410/1 not authorized to create area 'RECTRVMK' Address 2619/50 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 151/107 not authorized to create area 'INSURANCE' Address 2607/15 not authorized to create area 'REGION13' Address 11/600 not authorized to create area 'WALRUS' Address 3641/1 not authorized to create area 'ISDN' Address 266/22 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 157/200 not authorized to create area 'ALZHEIMERS' --- Harvey's Robot v4.53 * Origin: Planet Systems (1:3615/50.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN FLORY Number: 157 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/30/94 5:18a Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MF> I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT MF> want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am K12_ > NUL Should do the trick for you. MF> considering these K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are MF> NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they should NOT be MF> mixed in with my daily fidonet echomail. You are NOT MF> authorized to add areas on my system that are not Whether or not K12_ echo's are in the Fidonet.na listing really has NO bearing on what Boyd does with PC. This is NOT a strictly Fidonet service. On another tact the K12_ work that Jack Crawford is doing is something that is good for the nation as a whole and I think it is GREAT that he is getting it on PC. I have know Jack for quite some years (in fact our daughters used to be e-mail penpals) and he is to be thanked not told his echos are Bad echomail. MF> This is considered annoying behavior. Nope.......Your message is considered annoying behavior. Later Ken --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: VETLink #13 Las Cruces NM (505)523-2811 (1:305/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN DODSON Number: 158 To: THOMAS HATTON Date: 03/30/94 9:42a Subj: Internet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TH>I haven't been following this echo lately, but a while back there was alot o TH>discussion concerning the reception of the Internet feed and having a way to TH>send replies back to PC. Boyd indicated that they were working on setting up TH>address for us so theat this would be possible. TH>Has this been done? I've been waiting for this so I could start receiving th TH>feed. Has anything been done? Hi Thomas, I talked sometime ago with Boyd about this and he said that they have decided not to provide a return... that it would be an administrative nightmare. He also said they were looking for a sevice provider to recommend. --- QScan v1.062b * Origin: * La Cantina BBS * El Paso 915-532-0332 v.32bis/DS 4G (1:381/123) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 159 To: MURRAY PLETSCH Date: 03/29/94 7:34p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MP> > Stop these infractions at once! This is considered annoying MP> > behavior. MP>Are you a PC downlink..? Ever hear of the echo PCSITES...? Now what do you think, can you read a message before answering it? YES. MP>I like K12 Freeway echoes just like they are and so do MP>several other folks who pay big money. We discuss it in an I don't, and so don't several other folks who pay big money. MP>echo setup for us folks with a common interest. If you don't MP>like what you get for your money ask for a refund. There are YOU, are not the one to answer for Boyd! Unless you are handing out refunds, I suggest you "put a sock in it." MP>There are many folks out here who are tired of people shooting PC MP>down and particularly in a Public echo....! I am very, very happy MP>with saving (x) dollars....so are many other folks who are MP>downlinking the signal from Planet Connect. This is a SERVICE I pay for, and I have a right to speak my mind on the service I recieve, if you want to live like a refugee and be gracious for the privledge to buy a product, then DO SO, by all means. I am happy with saving dollars also, just like all the rest of the PC downlinks, but that does NOT mean I am going to listen to your humble tripe. Go save the whales or something.....Planet Connect is doing fine. Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 160 To: LAZ GOTTLI Date: 03/29/94 7:46p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LG>Better still just disconnect? then you will not have any LG>problems at all? Just your phone bill. Thanks for the advice Laz, but I pay just like you, and have a right to voice my oppinions weather you or MurrAy like them or not. I am not disconnecting a thing, I live in the USA where you can speak up and say whats on your mind. LG>** Boyd ** I still beleive you are doing an admirable job LG>with this thing! I still prefer your service over to the LG>phone by a long shot! Just count to 10 when you get a message LG>like this. I know the silent majority is behind you 100%. LG>There are growing pains along the way, but we all go through LG>it just setting up a BBS. Laz, is this where you suck up to Boyd, like you think he is going to get mad and quit........this is discusting. Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 161 To: RALPH ZAUNER Date: 03/29/94 7:51p Subj: Re: School echoes available! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RZ>BTW I am very happy with the current way things are running, RZ>If you aren't then send your PC stuff back and go back to RZ>using the local phone company. RZ>Ralph Zauner Ralph, what is with you telling me what to spend my money on? That is not an option here, because I choose to get a response from Boyd, you guys act like I am getting a favor from him, and should shut up, before he gets mad at all of you and quits. Get real here, I have a right to my oppinion as you do, but telling me to send my stuff back sounds a bit sarcastic. Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 162 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 03/29/94 7:59p Subj: Re: School Echoes Availab Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JH>Connect. But most of us, that is, those of us with working JH>grey matter, JH>BTW, your lack of intelligence and your childish posts are JH>excessively JH>annoying. I can see personal attacks are not beneath your standards, I suggest you file a PC then. Show me how high your IQ is. Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 163 To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 03/29/94 10:07p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GV>I find your message to be annoying behavior.. Hit The "N" Key. GV>I would have prefered that your would have shown the Common GV>decency to have Sent you Message to Boyd via NETMAIL or GV>Called him up Voice.. That is beginnig to make sense here, but not because YOU preferred it. GV>FYI, there are lots of subscribers to the Planet Connect GV>Service that has Nothing to do with FidoNET... Count them for me..... GV>PC is not an Excusively FIDO Distribution Service... Did anyone say they were? GV>IMHO, you have serveral choices.. Thanks for your Oppinion, but I have made my choice, I voiced MY Oppinion. GV>3. Apologize to the 300 Plus Planet Connect Subscribers who GV>may like the services that are being provide by PC.. You are taking alot in ASSuming this. I never said I didn't like the service, I just stated a flaw in IMHO. You on the other hand figure I can say nothing to Boyd about what I get.......WRONG. You have the right to state that you WANT K12_ areas, and I will not attack YOU for it, please do the same for me. Murry Francis - NET2215 NFC --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 164 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 03/30/94 4:22p Subj: School echoes available! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GC>Again, you are off the mark. Over the next year I hope to I am in a minority to say the least, I obviously will go along with the majority here, and shut up, I do appreciate all the name calling I recieved, from others in here. Thank you for staying on the subject. Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 165 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 03/30/94 9:44p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GS>Boyd didnt -start- those echos......He added them to the PC GS>service which is A-OK with the bulk of us......If you dont GS>want them then toss them to the bit bucket....But dont COST GS>the other PC subscribers $$$ because you have a bug up your GS>butt..... I have decided to go with the flow on this, but you are mis informed if you think I would be causing anyone to spend more $$$. But I guess a good defense is to use a smoke screen like $$$. Using another aka and making another automatic poll will not cost more $$$. I give up, the name calling, flaming, and general hog wash responces are overwhelming. I agree to go with the majority here, but I sure don't want to be associated with alot of nodes who post in here, I am glad I don't have to be. Have a nice life. Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 166 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 03/30/94 10:36p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MB> Maybe you *should* take the K12 echoes, Murry. This is one MB> worst grammatical faux pas I as a teacher have to endure. Please excuse my ignorance, for i am a product of the public school system, but since graduation, I have had no problems with my employee's understanding my drift. I am sure pompous remarks are your specialty. Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SID BALCOM Number: 167 To: JEFF WARD Date: 03/30/94 9:00a Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <Mar 28 21:47>, Jeff Ward (1:3667/500@fidonet.org) writes: JW>> To this Murry character, please, be an adult and discuss this JW>>rationally without flaming. Otherwise, why don't you take the refund JW>>offer PC has for 60 days and let the rest of us enjoy our systems. If JW>>out fo the sixty day period, sell it to someone who would appreciate it JW>>more than you. I'll gladly buy it. I'm sitting here going through the 'cooling off' period waiting for the receiver to be built, and I've got almost another 3 weeks of anticipation. I'll buy his system in a heartbeat! ++ Sid ++ --- Alexi/Mail 2.00a5 (#2) * Origin: The Catalytic Star - Alexandria, VA 703-765-1751 (1:109/343) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LISA GRONKE Number: 168 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/30/94 4:02p Subj: Re: School echoes available! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Murray, the "filebone" message echos and the "privately distributed" Planet Connect echos (PCSITES, PCSTATS, PLANET_CONNECT) are mixed in with the backbone echos now. I don't know of any other convenient way to do it. So Boyd will create a new list (planet.na) of bird echos not listed anywhere else. --- QM v1.30 * Origin: JOBS-BBS, Portland, Oregon (503) 281-6808 (1:105/54.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM HAAVISTO Number: 169 To: RICK WEBER Date: 03/30/94 10:31p Subj: Lantastic AI Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Has anyone had the problem with Lantastic of not running their satellite > machine. Everything works fine except when I try to bring up PCSKY. We are running the sat machine under Lantastic AI 5.0, and it works just fine. I have another machine wake up every few hours and grab files off the sat machine's drive. No problems with lockups. I did run into one weird problem a few weeks ago on a LAN'ed machine. It would run programs on its local drive just fine, but when the same program was run on a network drive, the machine would hang. Ended up replacing the motherboard, and it's now working fine... Hope this helps. >Tom< --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff238/x] * Origin: OnLine Now Thunder Bay ON, Canada (807)-345-1531 (1:229/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BARRY HERBERT Number: 170 To: BRIAN STEIN Date: 03/28/94 9:05p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In article 'Test', Brian Stein wrote: BS> This is a test...please respond. Ignore after: Wednesday the 31st. BS> BS> Brian Hello Brian. Your test reached the Power House BBS in Mara BC... __ __///Barry Herbert,FidoNet InterNet MicroSoft EchoNet Rime UseNet \XX/Intelec AmigaNet NaNet RoseNet PlanetEarth --- EXCELSIOR! BBS v1.20; XMAIL! v1.70 * Origin: THE POWER HOUSE BBS Mara BC CND (604)838-7446 (1:353/380) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BARRY HERBERT Number: 171 To: ALL Date: 03/28/94 9:24p Subj: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello every one. I just got this thing up and running. I'm located in an area of BC Canada that has a major flaw in getting a reliable Fido feed. So needless to say I was eager to get connected via satellite. I'm running on an Amiga 3000T and fortunately, I also have an IBM emulator that allows me to run the software. There is one draw back though. My BBS and mail tosser run on the Amiga side and everything needs to be over handled to get it processed. Boyd, if you're reading this, perhaps you could give heavy concideration to developing Amiga software that would let other Amiga oriented BBS's access the satellite feeds. I know....There are more IBM BBS's out there than AMiga, BUT there is a large market that Planet Connect is missing. Give it some thought anyway. Anyway it's great to be aboard...... __ __///Barry Herbert,FidoNet InterNet MicroSoft EchoNet Rime UseNet \XX/Intelec AmigaNet NaNet RoseNet PlanetEarth --- EXCELSIOR! BBS v1.20; XMAIL! v1.70 * Origin: THE POWER HOUSE BBS Mara BC CND (604)838-7446 (1:353/380) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BARRY HERBERT Number: 172 To: ALL Date: 03/29/94 6:31a Subj: Receiving Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Can anyone explain to me what's happening in this situation?? File 0000FFFF.MO0 is coming down the line. Stats say it's size is 400088, blocks 784. When completed the screen shows 0000FFFF.MO1 as next. Curent file still shows 0000FFFF.MO0 as the file being sent, files size stays the same, blocks increase to 1566. I've noticed too that the screen tells me that Fidobone.NA is coming but I can't find it in any directories, and it doesn't show up in the stats line. Thanks..... __ __///Barry Herbert,FidoNet InterNet MicroSoft EchoNet Rime UseNet \XX/Intelec AmigaNet NaNet RoseNet PlanetEarth --- EXCELSIOR! BBS v1.20; XMAIL! v1.70 * Origin: THE POWER HOUSE BBS Mara BC CND (604)838-7446 (1:353/380) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 173 To: JEFF MURPHY Date: 03/30/94 12:29p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > It's a communications problem, right? He didn't know he was going to be > getting these additional echos, of if he did, has no clue how to manage > his system without getting on you. Hmm.. I have seen messages about the echos before they got started.. Tag names and descriptions. They have been posted numerous times. So what else can Boyd do? I personally prefer them this way. I don't have to hastle with them. I have the choice what I want to do. TTYL Laz --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 174 To: RICK WEBER Date: 03/30/94 9:35p Subj: Lantastic AI Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Mar 27 23:47>, Rick Weber writes: RW>The software comes up receives 13 to 15 blocks and then locks up tighter RW>than a drum. It seems it's not seeing the key on the printer port or RW>something. Any help would be appreciated. Oh, it's seeing the dongle. Otherwise it wouldn't even see a single block. My 386dx/25 would run PCMAIN just fine under DV on the network as long as that node did not incur any heavy network traffic and none of the other workstations logged in. It may have been the 3C507 card I was using, but when any station polled the network for a network name, the REDIR program would freeze the PCMAIN station long enough to lock up the downlink. I never found a solution except to reboot the machine to load the network after each cycle. Some other things that you need to check that might help. If you don't have a 16550, get one. It won't work without it under DV or a network. Load X00 as as fossil driver and recapture the port just prior to loading PCMAIN. This pretty much took care of any problems I had after solving the network problem. Haven't had a lock up since. D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHARLIE CARTER Number: 175 To: RONNIE TOTH Date: 03/30/94 6:20a Subj: RADIST Announcement Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Ronnie Toth rambled about RADIST Announcement to RADIST Interests <=- RT> Effective April 1, 1994 RT> Barring Unforseen Difficulties RT> RADIST RT> will be RADISTributing RT> via RT> Planet Connect! About time! ;-) ... I think I'm lost. Can you direct me to the Information SuperHighway? --- * Origin: V.A.C.I.S. Ashland, KY 606-836-1267 (1:2260/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHARLIE CARTER Number: 176 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/30/94 6:23a Subj: School echoes available! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Murry Francis rambled about School echoes available! to Boyd Goodin <=- BG> Well then why dont you put a policy complaint against BG>me. I never told you it is manditory to carry these. By the BG>way Zone 1 backbone is still intact is it not? MF> They should not be mixed in with the fidonet nodelist adressing, MF> as soon as you do that, and mix them in with Z1 backbone, then the Z1 < Remainder of the drivel deleted! > I'll go a percentage if you will give him a refund and take away his dish! I don't carry the K12 stuff either, but I also don't carry over half of the BackBone either. Can you remove the stuff I don't carry from the satellite? ;-) ... Any fool can criticize, condemn, & complain. And most do. --- * Origin: V.A.C.I.S. Ashland, KY 606-836-1267 (1:2260/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOSEPH LAFERLA Number: 177 To: DON PACKWOOD Date: 03/29/94 10:25p Subj: FidoNet Mail Bungles.... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Don! 26 Mar 94 18:17, Greg Shaffer wrote to Don Packwood: DP>> I have noticed over the past several days that several DP>> FidoNet mail packets have not appeared. Some days as may as DP>> 2/3's of the bundles listed in the UPLD.LST are not found DP>> here. There is no record in the SKYMAIL.INX or the *.LOG DP>> that they were deleted. While I am remote for the actual DP>> sattelite system, and only process the FidoNet mail, I was DP>> wondering if this is a local problem or if there is a mass DP>> of missing FidoNet mail bundles. Everything has arrived here, too. Greetings from the Far North Joe --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: The Northern Star in Yellowknife, NWT, Canada (1:3414/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOSEPH LAFERLA Number: 178 To: BRIAN STEIN Date: 03/29/94 10:27p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Brian! 27 Mar 94 03:42, Brian Stein wrote to All: JS> This is a test...please respond. Ignore after: Wednesday the 31st. Made it into Yellowknife, NWT, Canada on the 29th. Greetings from the Far North Joe --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: The Northern Star in Yellowknife, NWT, Canada (1:3414/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOSEPH LAFERLA Number: 179 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 03/29/94 10:32p Subj: Dongle and OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Kim! 27 Mar 94 10:20, Kim Bergman wrote to Boyd Goodin: I too am anxious to run PC under OS2. I still have to receive my copy of OS2 as I am upgrading from Windows. I am not having success multitasking under Windows. PC told me that an OS2 version will be available soon. I do hope that it will be runnable without any problems. Do you have much experience with OS2? I also would like specific details of installation and I think it would be nice if PC provided us with details. I am sure there must be many people out there who want to try/ are trying OS2. Talk to you later. JB> In this echo I have seen references to a "dongleless version". These JB> references lead me to believe that PC is working on eliminating the dongle JB> altogether. Is this true? If so, when do you expect the dongleless JB> version to be available? BTW, I passed through Hanna last January on my way from Milk River to Edmonton. Stopped at the KFC for lunch too! Greetings from the Far North Joe --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: The Northern Star in Yellowknife, NWT, Canada (1:3414/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOSEPH LAFERLA Number: 180 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 03/30/94 10:27p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Tim! 28 Mar 94 17:19, Tim Lajoie wrote to Boyd Goodin: -> >> I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do -> >> want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering th -> >> K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no ->> ->> Fine. Anyone else feel this way? Gheese, you try to help out and s ->> something that is good for education (God knows this country needs it ->> get slapped up one side of ya and down the other. I have been very pa ->> quite while seeing what is going on in this area. It is going to the ->> Hello, is there a moderator in here???? Anyone want to be the moderat ->> guess this is the straw that broke the camels back. You guys want to ->> ball? Fine. I'm all ready to take my first swing. I am no public rela ->> Do you think this is fun sitting here at 2:00 am in the morning, read ->> that does not make sense and then working all day at an office taking ->> calls and making sure everything is going good. Then, for toppers, co ->> here at 7:00 pm and working till 1 or 2 am again so that you get your ->> files. Anybody want a job? ->> ->> P.S. Have a nice day! ->> ->> ...Boyd JL> Boyd, I REALLY feel sorry for you. It seems like everytime you try JL> to improve the setup, some ya-ho jumps out from under his rock and tries JL> to make life the pitts for the rest of us! I've seen talk about the I agree. I think PC is doing a bangup job as far as I am concerned. Everyone in my net is really pleased with the PC feed and the savings in phone bills that we are enjoying. Boyd, keep up the good work. JL> policy4 in here, this little round of BS and personally I am SICK of the JL> entire thing. I dropped fido because of this crap and then when I hooked JL> into PC for the NewsGroups, I figured what the heck, I'm getting the JL> full feed, why not. Its really becoming quite clear again. Want a JL> moderator, I'd glady do the job, but be forewarned, I WON'T take the JL> crap thats been going on. JL> think<G>! I was considering adding a pagesat system to my setup as well, JL> but when I read your realtime.txt doc, I was VERY HAPPY. PLEASE, PLEASE, JL> PLEASE keep pushing forward. For those that are ill equipped to handle JL> the future, maybe they should pull the plug on their satellite JL> receiver and keep dreaming of their 286's and 40 meg HD's. I think you are pushing it here. I think you ahve to realize that not all of us can be as lucky(?) as you are perhaps with what I imagine is a dedicated system. I don not consider myself "ill equipped" because I share my satellite dish with TV viewing nor do I consider myself as dreaming of my 286 and 40 meg HD. For your information, both my CPU and HD are much more powerful than that. I do not have any objection to you saying that you would like to see realtime. That is your prerogative and it is a free world. What I strenuously object to though is your making the rest of us sound like freaks. JL> You know Boyd, it always seems to be the minority that squeaks the JL> loudest. I think we've proven that here. Keep up the GREAT WORK!!! Boyd, do keep up the great work but please remember that you have a wide clientele to serve, both those who have it all (!) and those who enjoy this as a hobby. Greetings from the Far North Joe --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: The Northern Star in Yellowknife, NWT, Canada (1:3414/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE NYMAN Number: 181 To: KEVIN LECHNER Date: 03/30/94 9:32a Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > 23 Mar 94, Jeff Bowman writes to All: > > JB> What is the easy and cheapest way to get a network running > JB> <<sig.imp > > find a couple of used ethernet cards, 8 bit cards work > fine and can usually be found pretty inexpensive > ($15-20ea). Put them together with a couple of copies > of Netware Lite ($70ea), about $20 worth of cable, > connectors and terminators and you have a network for > under $200.00. Or Kevin he could find a copy of PC Conectivite which comes with a copy of lantastic Z and run a nul modem cable all for about 40$ . ....Mike Nyman --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: DreamTime BBS Sysops Point / Saskatoon SK (1:140/120.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GENE BALMAIN Number: 182 To: JOHN LE DUC Date: 03/30/94 5:51p Subj: SERVICES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: SERVICES BY: John Le Duc to Gene Balmain on Tue Mar 29 1994 05:35 pm > Gene Balmain wrote in a message to John Le Duc: > > > GB> I think John is pissed off that the game has changed....... > > No I am pissed off that you think that going to a convention gives you the > right to decide who can be in that hobbie and who can't. What gave you the > right to tell someone to get out of BBSing? Don't answer with that same kin > of carp you just sent about BBSCON ect, that didn't give you the right...so > EXACTLY what gives you that right? The fact that you are a "hanger on" at a > Pay BBS? Your not the sysop, Frank Sener is. > > Does being a Co-sysop of a pay BBS give you the belief that you have the rig > to decide who can run a BBS? > And the horse you rode in on John... What does the term Co- Mean? Last time I checked it ment Equal. BTW the name on PC contract is Gene.. I guess Frank cant use that service huh? OK how about this then "John".... I run an Online Information Service.. not a BBS. Ok happy now? No I dont think so. As far as "Rights" go... I dont think you have a "Right" to partisipate in this echo. You dont have a PC Dish... nor are you thinking about purchacing one.. Your presence here is to do nothing but disrupt Planet Connect and its Business Dealings! Can we end this thread now....... GENE --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: Vegas PlayGround! * Las Vegas, NV * 702-386-7979 * (1:209/276) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 183 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 03/30/94 8:44p Subj: Re: Need A Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JH| MB> JB|her eis a sugestion... use a program by OCR called SORTPKT, | MB> |you will toss 380-600 message per minute JH| MB> Thanks. I'll grab it. JH|OK...who's got that at High Speed and under what FREQ name? It's a utility that *comes* with Wildmail. It sure did up my tossing rate by a bunch (over 3 times as fast). You might want to check it out - especially if you have WM. .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * Internet Address: macbryant@delphi.com --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 1:3632/42 (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS KINNEN Number: 184 To: ADAM FARKAS Date: 03/29/94 8:25p Subj: Tossing Speed Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > What is the average tossing time for the full fido feed? > From the posts which I have read, our time is very short of > being average. Using Gecho feeding the entire backbone to 2 nodes and most of it to 3 more about 1-2 hours (The slow down is compressing the 8 MB single outbound queue files for D'Bridge). With Gomail about 4-6 Hours. What type of message base are you feeding it into. Thomas Kinnen Thomas.Kinnen@sobhrach.com --- InterMail 2.21 * Origin: Tom's Laptop Control Center, On The Road, U.S.A. (1:371/3901.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL LABBE Number: 185 To: TIM TRAHAN Date: 03/30/94 7:47a Subj: Re: Ping Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 03-22-94 15:37 some guy named Tim Trahan was blabbing his guts out to All TT> Hi all, just got everything working on my end (I hope) and thought I TT> would send out a message to make sure everything is set up correctly. TT> This is the second time arround, first one didn't work! Yep, we've gotcha! :) ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Dave's Cave (an OS/2 BBS!) 604-431-6407 (1:153/866) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 186 To: RICK WEBER Date: 03/30/94 8:47p Subj: Lantastic AI Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Rick, * In a message originally to All, Rick Weber said: > Has anyone had the problem with Lantastic of not running > their satellite > machine. Everything works fine except when I try to bring up > PCSKY. > The software comes up receives 13 to 15 blocks and then locks > up tighter > than a drum. It seems it's not seeing the key on the printer > port or > something. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Rick I had the same thing here, using Novell Lite. My problem went away after I upgraded the machine I was using for the sat./server to a 486. I had tried it with a 286/12, 16, and 20. None of these would run both at the same time even though the drives were fairly quick. It would probably work on most 386's, but I didn't bother. I wanted to upgrade, and there was a sale here, and I picked up some 486/33 MB's with CPU's for 178.00 bucks each. John --- GEcho 1.02/JAM/LAN * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK KRIEG Number: 187 To: GREG ROSLER Date: 03/30/94 9:10a Subj: K12 Stuff... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >RE: Re: ky_da da da >BY: Boyd Goodin to Murry Francis on Mon Mar 28 1994 02:00 am > >Boyd, that guy is a flake. Keep up the good work. If they don't want the echo >they can send it to the bit bucket! > >Please keep these echos. > > >Thanks Boyd. Your doing a hell of a good job. > > >Signed, >A very satisified customer, >Greg >--- Synchronet > * Origin: In Your Face BBS! 505-891-1424/1425 (1:301/43) I couldn't agree more! (another Synchronet/Planet Connect Sysop) +---------------+---------------------------------------------+ | Mark Krieg | YorkNet: @route:nethost1, 500:500/1 | | Cool Baby BBS | FidoNet: 1:270/612.0 |""""| | | York, Pa USA | Internet: mark.krieg@asacomp.com | ^^ | | | 717-751-0855 | RelayNet: 5244 [( Oo )] | +---------------+------------------------------oOO--(__)--OOo-+ * SLMR 2.1a * CRUSHER: Have you seen Wesley? WORF: No I have not *BURP! --- * Origin: Cool Baby BBS * York, PA * 717-751-0855 * (1:270/612) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 188 To: JOHN LITTLE Date: 04/01/94 10:00a Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: 152 Read: NO Private: No -> Who is the moderator of this group? Me. tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 189 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 04/01/94 10:02a Subj: Re: School Echoes Availab Refer: 162 Read: NO Private: No -> I can see personal attacks are not beneath your standards, I sug -> file a PC then. Show me how high your IQ is. I assume that you havn't seen my previous posts to you. Here it is again: IF YOU CONTINUE THIS THREAD I'M GOING TO CUT YOUR FEED TO THIS ECHO. This is your last chance. tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LE DUC Number: 190 To: GENE BALMAIN Date: 03/31/94 9:32a Subj: SERVICES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Gene Balmain wrote in a message to John Le Duc: GB> And the horse you rode in on John... Nice! Couldn't answer the question, HUH? GB> What does the term Co- Mean? Last time I checked it ment Equal. Membership in Fidonet is defined by the nodelist, you're name is not in it. As I said, you're not a sysop, nor a member of Fido. If you wish the nodelist entry changed, send the proper request. As NC I will deal with it.... GB> As far as "Rights" go... I dont think you have a "Right" to GB> partisipate in this echo. You dont have a PC Dish... nor GB> are you thinking about purchacing one.. Your presence here GB> is to do nothing but disrupt Planet Connect and its Business GB> Dealings! Not too suprisingly, your thinking on this is rather poor. I own the PC dish that the Net209 feeds from for it's files areas and PCUSENET files. I thought about, then bought it from Dave James. Now your deciding who may participate in this echo too, huh? By what right? I really DO want to know what it is that makes you feel that out of 16,000+ members of Fido, and an even larger number of sysops on other systems, that YOU are the one who can decide who may and who may not run a BBS (or even participate in this echo). Is it the fact that you charge for access to your BBS? [chuckle] The fact that you went to BBScon? Or is it maybe that you have your own subscription to Boardwatch? Or is it simply a flaw in your character? TTYL, John --- * Origin: The GeneSplicer's BBS-Las Vegas,NV (1:209/720) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 191 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/31/94 7:09p Subj: School echoes available! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Murry! Wednesday March 30 1994 16:22, Murry Francis wrote to Glenn Caleval: GC>> Again, you are off the mark. Over the next year I hope to MF> MF> I am in a minority to say the least, I obviously will go along with MF> the majority here, and shut up, MF> Murry -+- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. + Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - MF> Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) I agree with your desision... it was yours to make... Congradulations.. George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb --- Alexi/Mail 2.00a6 (#7) * Origin: Faster than a one-Legged man in an ass-kicking contest! (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALLACE SHELDON Number: 192 To: JOHNNY GREEN Date: 03/31/94 3:57p Subj: Dongle and OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JG> On (27 Mar 94) Kim Bergman wrote to Boyd Goodin... KB> Several weeks ago I phoned Planet Connect to enquire about using the KB> PC gear under OS/2 ver.2.1. I had heard that KB> there were problems with KB> reading the dongle under OS/2 and decided that I should ask before KB> spending my dough. I'm not sure if it was you I talked to but I was KB> told that everything works fine under 2.1 as long KB> as the parallel port KB> is configured sharable. JG> There are a number of folks who are running under OS/2. They have JG> relayed info to us of the nature that you mentioned here. Since JG> the software is not a true OS/2 or DesqView application, this is JG> something that we are not able to help with, other than to pass JG> on the info that these OS/2 gurus have given us. JG> The company that produces the dongles supplied for Planet Connect Johnny, If you know of a number of people ACTUALY running PC on OS/2, would you share their names with us? I don't believe ANYONE here has actualy seen a message from anyone actualy running PC on OS/2 with the Dongle. A couple of people have said how it SHOULD work, but I haven't seen a report from anyone saying they're actualy doing it. A lot of us have asked for such people to make themselves known........ not a word! A lot of us, as reported here, have tried everything to get PC to work on OS/2 without any success. I just don't believe anyone is doing it! Wally --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALLACE SHELDON Number: 193 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 03/31/94 4:12p Subj: Dongle and OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KB> Hello Boyd, KB> Several weeks ago I phoned Planet Connect to enquire about using the PC KB> gear under OS/2 ver.2.1. I had heard that there were KB> problems with reading the dongle under OS/2 and decided KB> that I should ask before spending my dough. I'm not KB> sure if it was you I talked to but I was told that KB> everything works fine under 2.1 as long as the parallel KB> port is configured sharable. KB> awaiting its arrival. Now I hear from several OS/2 KB> users that the dongle does not work under OS/2 2.1 even KB> if the port is sharable. You heard right the last time.<g> At this time there have been a couple of people stating how it SHOULD work, but nobody has stated that they are ACTUALY doing it. My bet is that NOBODY is ACTUALY using PC on OS/2 with the current dongle. I don't believe the people at Planet Connect should have told you that it would work, unless they have a ACTUAL knowledge of it working. Wally --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 194 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 03/31/94 7:32p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> What I would like to see is people being able to add echos to the fid -> downlink from PC just by sending it to boyd. We have got some nifty -> there, and by just sending it to one place we can virtually add it to -> backbone without any of the current hassles, it's a great deal. Actually, what you would be doing is adding it to PLanet Connect, NOT the Fido Backbone as areas that are not on the backbone would just goto the bit bucket when they arrived at 396/1 (Southern Star), that is assuming that Boyd sent them to him, which he wouldn't. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 195 To: TIMOTHY TRACE Date: 03/31/94 6:55a Subj: WildMail! 3.1 stuff... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TT} MB-> I need some help desperately with the following configuration: TT} MB-> TT} MB-> Wildcat 3.9 TT} MB-> Lantastic 5.0 TT} MB-> DESQview/QEMM (latest) TT} MB-> Wildmail 3.1 (problem - slow tossing around 60/min) TT} Mac, your slow tossing problem can be solved in these steps: <much deleted> -------------------------------------------- Thanks for the information. Your message was well thought out and you hit just about all the tweaks. I hadn't heard of the dual hard drive scheme. I'm gonna play with that one. Joe also recommends no more than 40 message data file groups in any one subdirectory. In other words, don't take the MSG???.DIA/DAT/IX files from 200 conferences and put them all into one subdirectory. Wildmail will lose time wading through that many files to find the right message datafile group. Thanks again for lettin all yer tricks outa the bag... Dean * WCE 1.5/2034 * --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream BBS * Peoria,IL * (1:232/30.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN DODSON Number: 196 To: RICK WEBER Date: 03/31/94 10:58a Subj: Lantastic Ai Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RW>Has anyone had the problem with Lantastic of not running their satellite RW>machine. Everything works fine except when I try to bring up PCSKY. RW>The software comes up receives 13 to 15 blocks and then locks up tighter RW>than a drum. It seems it's not seeing the key on the printer port or RW>something. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Rick No problem here running a Lantastic server as the PC machine. The softwarte will not load if it does not read the dongle. Sounds like your COM port. Do you have 16550's installed? --- QScan v1.062b * Origin: * La Cantina BBS * El Paso 915-532-0332 v.32bis/DS 4G (1:381/123) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 197 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/31/94 12:31a Subj: School echoes available! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > They should not be mixed in with the fidonet nodelist > adressing, as soon as you do that, and mix them in with Z1 > backbone, then the Z1 backbone is no longer intact. Bullshit! Every local system and hub in Fidonet transmits non-backbone conferences in one way or another whether it be the local sysop chat or the regional "whatever" conferences and they do it with their Fido addresses. This does not compromise the "backbone" in any way, shape or form. Boyd's system is a legitimate Fido node and he can carry any number of Non-Backbone conferences that he chooses just as you can. Besides that, Boyds company owns the data stream and they can transmit anything they want on it. You really have no say on this point nor do I. Go ahead and file a "policy complaint" and see how fast you are laughed out of Fido. You're the one who is annoying in this case, perhaps excessively so... Ed Marquis - NEC379 --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 14gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RYAN POTTS Number: 198 To: JEFF BOWMAN Date: 03/31/94 11:22a Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ric Walsh wrote in a message to Jeff Bowman: RW> Hi Jeff ! RW> Wednesday March 23 1994 21:29, Jeff Bowman wrote to All: JB> What is the easy and cheapest way to get a network running JB> <<sig.imp RW> Steal one .... (thats the cheapest) RW> Lantastic AI (adaptor independant) with some cheap Ethernet RW> (NE2000 clones) is good & cheap & legal. Exactomundo! I bought a couple cards which I consider to quit e inexpensive at $50 a piece. These are ne2000 compatible (work flawlessly with Lantastic/Should work just as well with Novell as well). The brand name on my cards is Addtron Technologies. The card is a 16-bit card running at 10 mega bits. I can be jumpered to any one of I think 5-6 different irqs and about 4-5 different base addresses as well. Thanks, Ryan --- * Origin: Midnight Express, Fairlawn Ohio (1:157/110) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 199 To: ALL Date: 03/31/94 10:52p Subj: Echo's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does anyone know why the following echo's are not listed or carried in the backbone? 1.. CRAFTING-ANNOUNCE 2.. EP-ANNOUNCE 3.. WINNTFA 4.. SF-ANNOUNCE 5.. ANNOUNCE.CLN 6.. MACFILES There are probably others, but these are the ones I am interested in. I was going to turn them on and see what the "file flow" would be and if we are getting the ones listed as being carried. Sorry, no cute picture here --> -Joe * SPITFIRE v3.4 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Outer-Limits/PC System/2.1gig 11 CD's (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 200 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/31/94 10:07p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Murry Francis wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: GS>Boyd didnt -start- those echos......He added them to the PC GS>service which is A-OK with the bulk of us......If you dont GS>want them then toss them to the bit bucket....But dont COST GS>the other PC subscribers $$$ because you have a bug up your GS>butt..... MF> I have decided to go with the flow on this, but you are MF> mis informed if you think I would be causing anyone to spend MF> more $$$. But I guess a good defense is to use a smoke MF> screen like $$$. Using another aka and making another MF> automatic poll will not cost more $$$. Ohhh so you really think the rest of us have FREE long distance phone service? You do understand that if PC doesnt -process- those areas then those who want them will have to send their replies back to someone else? This means another long distance phone call to send replies out......That means more $$$. MF> I give up, the name MF> calling, flaming, and general hog wash responces are MF> overwhelming. I agree to go with the majority here, but I MF> sure don't want to be associated with alot of nodes who post MF> in here, I am glad I don't have to be. Have a nice life. THats ok......based on your posts and attitude not many of us care to associate with you anyway :) greg.shaffer@ascicorp.com ... He's a few fries short of a Happy Meal. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: At last! We have a *REAL* RC18 :) (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK KRIEG Number: 201 To: ALL Date: 03/31/94 9:35a Subj: This Echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I've got an idea, how about renaming this conference to PC_DEBATE, and beginning a new moderated conference for PC Tech Support! * SLMR 2.1a * The Kernighan & Richie Virus: "C" sickness. --- * Origin: Cool Baby BBS * York, PA * 717-751-0855 * (1:270/612) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CYRUS CATHEY Number: 202 To: MARTY DUPLISSEY Date: 03/30/94 6:26p Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MB:}-> If Anyone is interested I have wipped up a fix for using raid with :}-> Wcff. It is in testing right now and if all goes well will be put up :}-> freq in the next few days. This utility will allow you to make multip :}-> at raid messages while tweeking the appropiate wcff.cfg file. Let me :}-> there is any interest before we waste the bandwith to distribute it. I am also interested. Let us know when it is ready and we will pick it up or you can send it to Ron Woods so we can all get it. Cyrus ■ QMPro 1.01 41-3544 ■ <<Power Windows! Windows, OS/2, MIDI, News>> --- WM v3.10/94-0123 * Origin: Power Windows! 205-881-8619 Windows, MIDI, OS/2, (1:373/27) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CYRUS CATHEY Number: 203 To: DEAN LAKE Date: 03/30/94 6:30p Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DL:}You can FREQ PSORT from 1:203/7707 and get the latest copy. Be :}sure to get the necessary companion file DOS4GW at the same time. :}PSORT won't run without it. I don't run DesqView here, not sure :}if PSORT will work under DV. It does work fine with QEMM 7.03 :}and LANtastic. DL:}If you want, I can send you a text file of my setup. Won't take :}you long to get it going. I would like to see your setup file. Always nice to see another Wildcat setup for a utility! Thanks! Cyrus ■ QMPro 1.01 41-3544 ■ <<Power Windows! Windows, OS/2, MIDI, News>> --- WM v3.10/94-0123 * Origin: Power Windows! 205-881-8619 Windows, MIDI, OS/2, (1:373/27) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 204 To: ALL Date: 03/31/94 6:41a Subj: Traffic Report Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! ********************************************************************* * Birdsoft Poster Record for Area: PLANETCONNECT * * Messages received by (1:382/8) * * Sat, Mar 26, 1994 - Wed, Mar 30, 1994 * ********************************************************************* Posts Name Average Size Address ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 14 Greg Shaffer 1238 1:370/510 14 John Hrusovszky 1493 1:238/300.0 12 Art Mack 1445 1:201/70 8 Jim Dunmyer 860 1:234/2 8 Jason Baginski 2199 1:170/906 8 Fred Hatfield 1243 1:396/65.0 7 Gary Hedberg 1165 1:3407/1 7 Mark Adkins 947 1:105/285 6 Dave Osborne 977 1:123/301.2 6 John Le Duc 1147 1:209/720 6 Mac Bryant 1232 1:3632/42.0 6 Tom Haavisto 1360 1:229/510 6 Dave Petrucci 977 1:2600/161 6 Murry Francis 892 1:2215/5 6 Joe Hayes 1445 1:2290/70 5 Boyd Goodin 2703 1:3615/50.1 5 George Vandervort 2856 1:382/8 5 Tony Cremonese 1275 1:326/406 5 Bill Wolf 1173 1:2235/10 4 Justin Mcdermid 1402 1:353/353 4 Kim Bergman 1530 1:358/25 4 Ken Kavanagh 1275 1:153/7070 4 MARTIN BELCKE 637 1:232/10 4 Emmett Perdue 573 1:18/2 3 Roy Timberman 1105 1:280/333 3 Jim Kreyling 850 1:275/152 3 STEVE HUSK 850 1:157/576 3 Guy VanDell 1020 1:116/80 3 Brett Hays 1105 1:203/8888.0 3 Mark Krieg 1020 1:270/612 2 Joe Patterson 1912 1:344/91 2 Patty Pickett 1147 1:380/5 2 Gene Balmain 1402 1:209/276 2 Chuck Warren 510 1:3611/15 2 Foxy Ferguson 1020 1:116/210.1 2 Rick Ashworth 892 1:108/90 2 Craig Clark 765 1:3658/1 2 Tim Lajoie 1785 1:222/21.0 2 Michael Andrews 1020 1:260/801 2 JOE LYDA 892 1:3622/1000 2 Joseph Laferla 510 1:3414/1 2 Lee Bonnifield 2805 1:3615/50.1 2 Dale Wood 1275 1:202/401 2 Dennis Powers 1020 1:141/1135 2 Floyd Drennon 1020 1:375/14 2 Jeff Murphy 1402 1:105/222.3 2 RICK COONEY 1147 1:2613/133 2 John Campbell 765 1:2602/510 2 Jim Watson 892 1:170/610 2 Roy Mumaw 1020 1:206/2601 2 John Johnson 2040 1:291/11 2 Tim Trahan 1912 1:3632/61 2 Don Waybright 892 1:264/100 2 Jack Crawford 2677 1:260/620 2 Dave Sloan 1402 1:348/105 2 Thomas Kinnen 1147 1:371/3901.2 2 Dan Cook 1147 1:202/344 1 Gary Crain 1020 1:382/92 1 Wallace Sheldon 1020 1:382/17 1 Laz Gottli 765 1:358/1 1 Tony Arcadi 510 1:272/21 1 Janis Kracht 1020 1:272/38 1 Charlie Carter 765 1:2260/1 1 Dan Williamson 1020 1:3410/0 1 Jerry Russell 765 1:374/1 1 Brian Hess 1020 1:3639/19 1 Thomas Beal 1275 1:128/135 1 Allen Cravener 510 1:2607/401 1 Cyrus Cathey 1020 1:373/27 1 James Delmerico 765 1:133/2403 1 Jeff Bowman 765 1:157/631 1 James Nerlinger 510 1:108/155 1 Johnny Green 2040 1:3615/50.4 1 Todd Lyons 765 1:3807/104 1 Gill Blue 1530 1:18/16 1 Jason Klank 765 1:3639/19 1 Paul Stewart 765 1:229/318 1 Greg Rosler 255 1:301/43 1 Dexter Wright 510 1:128/158 1 Rick Weber 765 1:2330/69 1 JOE MEADORS 765 1:160/260 1 Rob Nelson 765 1:359/200 1 Frank Sereno 1275 1:2235/10 1 PAT FINNERTY 1020 1:3627/1 1 Walter Cade 1785 1:398/2.0 1 Jason Fesler 1530 1:203/7707.1 1 Gary Barr 765 1:2310/200 1 TIMOTHY WAGONER 765 1:3400/8 1 Glenn Caleval 1275 1:140/72 1 Tracy Mickley 510 1:288/6 1 Ken Flory 765 1:305/105 1 Bill Roper 1020 1:3801/1 1 DAVID LIVINGSTON 765 1:3622/1000 1 Steve Vold 2550 1:134/5010 1 Tim Fierro 3570 1:138/165 1 Hector Mandel 1275 1:233/15 1 Henry Moore 5355 1:3639/3 1 SEBASTIAN ACOSTA 1020 1:135/94 Total = 273 by 98 authors. George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb --- Alexi/Mail 2.00a6 (#7) * Origin: Answers: Short $1, Correct $25, Dumb looks are Free (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADAM FARKAS Number: 205 To: ALL Date: 03/27/94 12:40p Subj: this is a test... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ... This is a test... Anyone see this besides me? Ignore after April 1. -=- * SLMR 2.1 * Hello, I am part number ||+||||#||+||+|| --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#2155) * Origin: Wolf's Information Center BBS (1:141/1070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALTER CADE Number: 206 To: BILL ROPER Date: 03/30/94 5:06p Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No < Bill is quoted as sayint to Mart> -> If you were a good guy, you'd send it to Boyd for -> distribution over the bird.... if you were a REAL good -> guy, you'd just send it to me on your nickel (g)..... True Bill, but this new PreRaid stuff is cool. You can even freq it here. ......Tell you what. Freq here or at Marty's board and we WONT EVEN SEND you a bill. <G> Walter --- WM v3.10/93-0997 * Origin: Arti BBS (903) 758-ARTI Multi-Line 28,8 Hayes V.fc (1:398/2.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALTER CADE Number: 207 To: NORM HENKE Date: 03/30/94 5:08p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> What is the easy and cheapest way to get a network running -> Install mechanical legs on it. Should be under $10,000. Walter --- WM v3.10/93-0997 * Origin: Arti BBS (903) 758-ARTI Multi-Line 28,8 Hayes V.fc (1:398/2.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 208 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/29/94 9:42a Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! Monday March 28 1994 02:00, Boyd Goodin wrote to Murry Francis: >> I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you >> do NOT want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am >> considering these K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in >> fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they BG> Fine. Anyone else feel this way? Gheese, you try to help out NOPE just a Few sysops with BIG mouths! BG> and start something that is good for education (God knows this BG> country needs it!) and you get slapped up one side of ya and down we here love those echo and are VERY happy with the way they was added keep up the good work... BG> P.S. Have a nice day! BG> ...Boyd Thank you, Brian ... Beat inflation - steal! --- GED 2.42.G0214+ 65LM3 * Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY GREEN Number: 209 To: JOHN DODSON Date: 03/31/94 3:09p Subj: Internet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (30 Mar 94) John Dodson wrote to Thomas Hatton... JD> TH>discussion concerning the reception of the Internet feed and having JD> a way to JD> they have decided not to provide a return... that it would be an JD> administrative nightmare. He also said they were looking for a sevice JD> provider to recommend. NOT CORRECT..!! Planet Connect IS planning to accept replies for Usenet at some point. There is no time table at this point. The priorty here is to get data TO you, and then to recieve it back. There are numerous problems that will have to be overcame, such as hardware, software setup, methodology, etc, etc,. When we feel as though we have all of this worked out, THEN we will look at handling these returns. This has been a constant misconception, so I wanted to clarify these points so that everyone understands. Liked I've said before, there is no hand-book for running a satellite delivery system for data to BBS's, so we are attempting to explore many options that will make our service have many options. Each of these will have to be explored completely, so that all will find something useful for his or her own BBS. Thanks for all of your input. ... │ Home of Planet Connect and Skylink Communications. │ --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Planet Systems, Skylink 615-623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RIC WALSH Number: 210 To: RONNIE TOTH Date: 03/30/94 9:59p Subj: RADIST Announcement Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Ronnie ! Monday March 28 1994 10:47, Ronnie Toth wrote to RADIST Interests: RT> RADIST RT> will be RADISTributing RT> via RT> Planet Connect! Great News ! Ric --- GoldED 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: D.M.U.G. BBS Dayton NEC (1:110/69) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 211 To: DEXTER WRIGHT Date: 03/28/94 5:04a Subj: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dexter! In a message to Martin Belcke <03/23/94> Dexter Wright wrote: DW> -> A TIC processor would automatically toss the files into the proper fi DW> -> areas and add the decriptions to the file database. IF you are using DW> -> Wildcat, you would use WCFF. DW> Are there any AreaMgr's that work with WildCat/WCFF for DW> requesting file echo's? there are none right now... But, from what I have heard, with 3.5 it will all be built in <<sig.imp * WCE 1.5/2119 * KLEPTOMANIA! Take something for it! --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK SKELLY Number: 212 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 03/28/94 12:47a Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KB>If ever I have seen an echo in need of a moderator it *has* to be this one. Hehehe... Did I just see someone voluteer? * QMPro 1.51 * Who wants the gold? It's the RAINBOW I am after!! --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY GREEN Number: 213 To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 04/01/94 11:41a Subj: Dongle and OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (31 Mar 94) Wallace Sheldon wrote to Johnny Green... WS> A lot of us, as reported here, have tried everything to WS> get PC to work on OS/2 without any success. I just don't believe WS> anyone is doing it! I understand your fustration, the problem is I talk to so many people that I cannot remember names. I am trying to find those names, couple of which I can remember first names only. Boyd and I are pressing Aztek for their solution via the dongle. Hopefully we should know something positive in the next couple of days. ... │ Home of Planet Connect and Skylink Communications. │ --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Planet Systems, Skylink 615-623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY GREEN Number: 214 To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 04/01/94 11:51a Subj: Dongle and OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (31 Mar 94) Wallace Sheldon wrote to Kim Bergman... WS> at Planet Connect should have told you that it would work, unless they WS> have a ACTUAL knowledge of it working. WS> WS> Wally WS> Check that last message, Wally, and remember that I will not release any names until I have spoken with that person,PERSONALLY, to get their permission. You will not read fiction from us here, Wally. ... │ Home of Planet Connect and Skylink Communications. │ --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Planet Systems, Skylink 615-623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 215 To: ALL Date: 03/31/94 9:55p Subj: OS/2 command files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Here is a didy of a rexx command file to distribute the PC stuff to two other nodes for processing. What hapens is that the node that runs this processes the Fido stuff - the other node processes the internet stuff and the other the files: (hope this fits in one message) /* Planet Connect */ 'echo on' signal on failure name EXIT signal on halt name EXIT signal on syntax name EXIT /* Setup system functions*/ Call RxFuncAdd 'SysSleep','RexxUtil','SysSleep' /* Setup Queue*/ CntlQueue = 'CNTL' skypath = 'c:\mail\inbound\skydata' gosky = 'cd\mail\inbound\skydata' inbound = 'c:\mail\inbound' goin = 'cd\mail\inbound' altsys = 'c:\dave' goalt = 'cd\dave' gosquish = 'cd\max\squish' send = 'squishp send' /* Current files in from the PC machine*/ skylog = 'skydata.txt' skyfile = inbound'\'skylog /* File containing the latest and greatest pcusenets that we have received*/ usefile = inbound'\usedata.txt' isthere = altsys'\isthere.txt' /* This file is sent from the planet connect computer once the mail is complete*/ skyend = skypath'\endupld.txt' /* File that logs the files that we have received*/ gotit = altsys'\pcfile.log' Do Forever Call syssleep 120 /* Send out to 1:348/105 all weather maps*/ 'c:' gosky 'erase "*;*"' /* Send all usenet files to 1:348/105 for processing*/ 'c:' goin 'dir c:\mail\inbound\skydata\pcuse* /f > 'usefile if RC = 0 then do goalt do until LINES(usefile) = 0 line = LINEIN(usefile) if line <> '' then do usename = FILESPEC('NAME', line) 'dir 'usename' > 'isthere if RC <> 0 then do 'copy "'line'"' if RC = 0 then do 'erase "'line'"' if RC = 0 then do gosquish send' 'altsys'\'usename' to 1:348/105' goalt end end end end end file = LINEOUT(usefile) 'erase 'usefile 'erase 'isthere /* Keep only 45 files back */ goalt 'dir pcusenet* /f /od > 'isthere if RC = 0 then do savecnt = 0 do until LINES(isthere) = 0 line = LINEIN(isthere) savecnt = savecnt + 1 end file = LINEOUT(isthere) if savecnt > 45 then do savecnt = savecnt - 45 do ii = 1 to savecnt line = LINEIN(isthere) 'erase 'line end file = LINEOUT(isthere) end 'erase 'isthere end end /* Send all mail packets to inbound for fast processing*/ 'c:' goin 'dir c:\mail\inbound\skydata\0000ffff* /f /od > 'skyfile if RC = 0 then do gosquish do until LINES(skyfile) = 0 line = LINEIN(skyfile) if line <> '' then do goalt pktname = FILESPEC('NAME', line) 'dir 'pktname' > 'isthere if RC <> 0 then do 'copy "'line'"' if RC = 0 then do 'erase "'line'"' 'unzip -oj 'pktname 'pktsort -s11500' gosquish 'copy 'altsys'\*.pkt' if RC = 0 then do 'erase 'altsys'\*.pkt' end end end else 'erase "'line'"' 'erase 'isthere end end file = LINEOUT(skyfile) 'copy 'skyfile' 'altsys 'erase 'skyfile gosquish send' 'altsys'\'skylog' to 105' send' 'altsys'\'skylog' to 702' /* Do mail command last so sites get files while mail packing*/ oq = RXQueue("Set",CntlQueue) QUEUE 'fastoss 1' xx = RXQueue("Set",oq) /* Keep only 25 files back */ goalt 'dir 0000ffff* /f /od > 'isthere if RC = 0 then do savecnt = 0 >> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 << >> Continued in next message << ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 216 To: ALL Date: 03/31/94 9:55p Subj: OS/2 command files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 << >> Continued from previous message << do until LINES(isthere) = 0 line = LINEIN(isthere) savecnt = savecnt + 1 end file = LINEOUT(isthere) if savecnt > 25 then do savecnt = savecnt - 25 do ii = 1 to savecnt line = LINEIN(isthere) 'erase 'line end file = LINEOUT(isthere) end 'erase 'isthere end end /* Check for the end file*/ 'dir 'skyend' > 'skyfile if RC = 0 then do 'erase 'skyfile goin 'dir c:\mail\inbound\skydata\* /f > 'skyfile if RC = 0 then do goin do until LINES(skyfile) = 0 line = TRANSLATE(LINEIN(skyfile)) if line <> '' then do /* File there - renamed with ; also we do not do qwk's yet*/ if POS(".QW", line) = 0 then do dontgot = 1 /* Keep track of what we have*/ do until LINES(gotit) = 0 bline = LINEIN(gotit) if bline = line then do dontgot = 0 leave end end if dontgot then do file = LINEOUT(gotit, line) file = LINEOUT(gotit) 'copy "'line'"' if RC = 0 then 'erase "'line'"' end else do file = LINEOUT(gotit) 'erase "'line'"' end end else 'erase "'line'"' end end file = LINEOUT(skyfile) 'erase 'skyfile oq = RXQueue("Set",CntlQueue) /* Go setup files for sending */ QUEUE 'ticin 1' xx = RXQueue("Set",oq) end end else 'erase 'skyfile end EXIT: /* Check that control is running*/ xx = RXQUEUE('Create', CntlQueue) /* REXX will name queue to another name - otherwise it exists*/ say 'Try to create - 'xx if xx = CntlQueue then do /* Remove it and let control recreate it*/ xx = RXQUEUE("Delete",CntlQueue) 'C:' 'cd\binkley\bink1' 'start /fs /b control' return end else xx = RXQUEUE("Delete",xx) /* Let control startup bink1*/ return --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 217 To: ALL Date: 03/31/94 9:59p Subj: OS/2 Process - the other node! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The one node does the tic thingy ( I won't elaborate) and the other processes the Newsgroups as such: (Note that the compressed batch file is "! cunbatch" /* Planet Connect Internet Process */ 'echo on' signal on failure name EXIT signal on halt name EXIT signal on syntax name EXIT /* Setup system functions*/ Call RxFuncAdd 'SysSleep','RexxUtil','SysSleep' /* Setup Queue*/ CntlQueue = 'CNTL' tmpfile = 'd:\temp\tmpdata.txt' usefile = 'd:\temp\usefile.txt' /* Toss to gate the .bag file */ /* Path to the system that we are spooling*/ spoolpath = 'd:\uugate\spool\calvin' gospool = 'cd\uugate\spool\calvin' /* Point to our directory with newsto go to our feed*/ newslist = 'd:\uugate\calvin\rnews.out' goourdir = 'cd\uugate\calvin' /* Where binaries are kept*/ goprocess = 'cd\uugate' /* Name of our systems spool files */ Nodename = 'techtol' outid = 'D.techtol' outdir = 'X.techtol' spoolin = 'd:\uugate\tmp\compin' /* Name of there systems pool files*/ system = 'calvin' inid = 'D.calvin' inidir = 'X.calvin' senddir = 'C.calvin' spoolout = 'd:\uugate\tmp\compout' /* Where the unzipped .bag files are waiting*/ bagloc = 'd:\pc' baglist = 'd:\pc\baglist.txt' LF = X2C('0A') NULL = X2C('00') Do Forever Call syssleep 120 /* Check for the end file*/ /* Process all usenet files*/ 'c:' /* Inbound Directory*/ 'cd\net' 'dir pcuse* /f > 'usefile if RC = 0 then do 'd:' /* Process one Group at a time*/ do until LINES(usefile) = 0 line = LINEIN(usefile) if line <> '' then do usename = FILESPEC('NAME', line) /* Have we seen this one before*/ 'dir c:\usenet\'usename' > 'tmpfile if RC <> 0 then do /* Let us add it to the group*/ 'd:' 'cd\pc' 'copy 'line if RC = 0 then do /* Change pcusenet.xxx to ????????.bag*/ 'unzip -oj 'usename 'erase 'usename 'copy 'line' c:\usenet' if RC = 0 then 'erase 'line' /n' /* Create packets for uugate and uucp sites*/ call putuug /* Now did we mave some pkt's raring to go*/ 'd:' 'cd\uugate' 'uftoss -scalvin' 'e:' 'cd\net' 'pktsort -s11500' /* Wait for Squish to Suck in the last .pkt*/ do until RC <> 0 call syssleep 30 'dir c:\net\*.pkt' end 'c:' 'cd\net' 'copy e:\net\*.pkt' if RC = 0 then 'erase e:\net\*.pkt' oq = RXQueue("Set",CntlQueue) QUEUE 'fastoss 1' xx = RXQueue("Set",oq) call syssleep 30 end 'c:' end else 'erase 'line 'erase 'tmpfile end /* Clean up everything on last pass*/ if LINES(usefile) = 0 then do /* Keep only 75 files back */ 'cd\usenet' 'dir pcusenet* /f > 'tmpfile if RC = 0 then do savecnt = 0 do until LINES(tmpfile) = 0 line = LINEIN(tmpfile) savecnt = savecnt + 1 end file = LINEOUT(tmpfile) if savecnt > 75 then do savecnt = savecnt - 75 do ii = 1 to savecnt line = LINEIN(tmpfile) 'erase 'line end file = LINEOUT(tmpfile) end 'erase 'tmpfile end end end file = LINEOUT(usefile) 'erase 'usefile end 'c:' 'cd\net' 'dir uconnect.stp /f' if RC = 0 then leave end EXIT: /* Check that control is running*/ xx = RXQUEUE('Create', CntlQueue) /* REXX will name queue to another name - otherwise it exists*/ >> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 << >> Continued in next message << ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 218 To: ALL Date: 03/31/94 9:59p Subj: OS/2 Process - the other node! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 << >> Continued from previous message << say 'Try to create - 'xx if xx = CntlQueue then do /* Remove it and let control recreate it*/ xx = RXQUEUE("Delete",CntlQueue) 'C:' 'cd\bink' 'start /fs /b control' return end else xx = RXQUEUE("Delete",xx) /* Let control startup bink*/ exit putuug: 'c:' /* Check that files are waiting*/ 'dir 'bagloc'\*.bag /f > 'baglist if RC = 0 then do /* get the list of files to spool to our feed*/ listout = '' 'd:' goourdir do until LINES(newslist) = 0 line = LINEIN(newslist) if line <> '' then listout = listout' 'line end file = LINEOUT(newslist) /* Now get the count to start at for inbound feeds*/ countin = '0001' 'd:' gospool inused = '' 'dir 'inid'* /f' /* If there is mail to convert - then do it*/ if RC = 0 then do 'd:' goprocess 'uftoss -s'system end /* Now get the count to start at for outbound rmail*/ countout = '0001' 'd:' gospool outused = '' outthere = spoolpath'\C.'system 'dir 'outthere' /f' if RC = 0 then do outthere do until LINES(outthere) = 0 line = LINEIN(outthere) end countout = RIGHT(WORD(line, 2), 4) end /* Now go process the .bag files*/ do until LINES(baglist) = 0 /* Get the name of the first file*/ bagfile = TRANSLATE(LINEIN(baglist)) say 'Processing -> 'bagfile if POS('.BAG', bagfile) > 0 then do messout = 0 /* Proccess all lines in this file*/ therefile = spoolpath'\'outid||countout line = LINEIN(bagfile) do until LINES(bagfile) = 0 if WORD(line, 1) = '#!' & WORD(line, 2) = 'rnews' then do rnewsline = line stack = 0 newgroup = '' /* Get the header info onto the stack*/ do until WORD(line, 1) = '#!' | LINES(bagfile) = 0 line = LINEIN(bagfile) directive = WORD(line, 1) stack = stack + 1 line.stack = line if directive = 'Newsgroups:' then do newsgroup = WORD(line, 2) leave end end if newsgroup <> '' then do /* They want this - uucp sites*/ if WORDPOS(newsgroup, listout) > 0 then do messout = messout + 1 file = CHAROUT(spoolout, rnewsline||LF) /* Process Header for Them*/ do i = 1 to stack line = line.i file = CHAROUT(spoolout, line||LF) end DROP(line.) do until WORD(line, 1) = '#!' | LINES(bagfile) = 0 line = LINEIN(bagfile) if WORD(line, 1) <> '#!' then do file = CHAROUT(spoolout, line||LF) end end end /* Clear Stack - we will not except this*/ else do DROP(line.) do until WORD(line, 1) = '#!' | LINES(bagfile) = 0 line = LINEIN(bagfile) end end end /* Clear Stack - we will not except this*/ else do DROP(line.) do until WORD(line, 1) = '#!' | LINES(bagfile) = 0 line = LINEIN(bagfile) end end end else line = LINEIN(bagfile) end file = LINEOUT(spoolout) file = LINEOUT(bagfile) if messout > 0 then do /* Now create compressed batch file*/ therefile = outid'd'countout /* create output file */ file = CHAROUT(therefile, '#! cunbatch'||LF) file = LINEOUT(therefile) /* compress packets */ 'compress -cv 'spoolout' >> 'therefile 'erase 'spoolout file = LINEOUT(senddir, 'S 'therefile' 'therefile' uucp - 'therefile' 0666') countout = countout + 1 countout = RIGHT(countout, 4, '0') theredir = spoolpath'\'outid'N'countout file = CHAROUT(theredir, 'U news 'Nodename||LF) file = CHAROUT(theredir, 'F 'therefile||LF) file = CHAROUT(theredir, 'I 'therefile||LF) >> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 << >> Continued in next message << ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 219 To: ALL Date: 03/31/94 9:59p Subj: OS/2 Process - the other node! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 << >> Continued from previous message << file = CHAROUT(theredir, 'Z'||LF) file = CHAROUT(theredir, 'C rnews'||LF) file = LINEOUT(theredir) therefile = outid'N'countout theredir = outdir'N'countout file = LINEOUT(senddir, 'S 'therefile' 'theredir' uucp - 'therefile' 0666') countout = countout + 1 countout = RIGHT(countout, 4, '0') end /* Now create our file */ ourfile = inid'd'countin file = CHAROUT(ourfile, '#! cunbatch'||LF) file = LINEOUT(ourfile) /* compress packets */ 'compress -cv 'bagfile' >> 'ourfile countin = countin + 1 countin = RIGHT(countin, 4, '0') ourdir = spoolpath'\'inidir'N'countin file = CHAROUT(ourdir, 'U news 'system||LF) file = CHAROUT(ourdir, 'F 'ourfile||LF) file = CHAROUT(ourdir, 'I 'ourfile||LF) file = CHAROUT(ourdir, 'Z'||LF) file = CHAROUT(ourdir, 'C rnews'||LF) file = LINEOUT(ourdir) countin = countin + 1 countin = RIGHT(countin, 4, '0') end 'erase 'bagfile end file = LINEOUT(baglist) 'erase 'baglist file = LINEOUT(senddir) end return --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 220 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/31/94 10:06p Subj: Prize Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Now if I could only get that Dongle working on Scott Brookers system <Dig Dig>. Anyway - let me know if you need some testers if you ever get some software for PC in OS/2. --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 221 To: THOMAS KINNEN Date: 03/31/94 10:17a Subj: Tossing Speed Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Using Gecho feeding the entire backbone to 2 nodes and most of it to 3 > more about 1-2 hours (The slow down is compressing the 8 MB single I toss to a couple more boards with a 486/66 and mannage to do it in about 15 minutes.. That involves unpacking, tossing and compressing them for my downlinks. TTYL Laz --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 222 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/31/94 10:19a Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Laz, is this where you suck up to Boyd, like you think he is going > to get mad and quit........this is discusting. No this is where I tell him the rest of us appreciate what he is doing! TTYL Laz --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEVIN LECHNER Number: 223 To: MIKE NYMAN Date: 03/31/94 11:05p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No 30 Mar 94, Mike Nyman writes to Kevin Lechner: >> >> JB> What is the easy and cheapest way to get a network running >> JB> <<sig.imp >> >> of Netware Lite ($70ea), about $20 worth of cable, >> connectors and terminators and you have a network for >> under $200.00. MN> Or Kevin he could find a copy of PC Conectivite which comes with a copy of MN> lantastic Z and run a nul modem cable all for about 40$ . I suppose he could, however it would be very slow. If I were in a big crunch I would get a copy of the network that works thru the parallel port, much faster. Kevin --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Last Point, Palm Bay, FL ** 14.4 ** (1:374/85.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 224 To: JOHNNY GREEN Date: 03/31/94 1:17a Subj: Dongle and OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JG> There are a number of folks who are running under OS/2. They have JG> relayed info to us of the nature that you mentioned here. Since JG> the software is not a true OS/2 or DesqView application, this is JG> something that we are not able to help with, other than to pass JG> on the info that these OS/2 gurus have given us. Thanks for the info Johnny. I read the info file from your BBS again and see now where it clearly states that OS/2 is not supported at this time. I probably read it before and forgot it, reading so much lately. Please excuse me if I sounded a little put out in my previous message. JG> The company that produces the dongles supplied for Planet Connect JG> is working on this timing problem, and tells us that they should JG> have some info for us by the end of this week. Glad to know someone is working it. Fingers are crossed here and still confident that PC was a wise purchase for me. KB> In this echo I have seen references to a "dongleless version". JG> The version you are referring to is a TVAGENT dongless version. JG> This will enable you to use TvAgents on a seperate machine from JG> the Planet Connect machine. JG> Sorry for the confusion. Not your fault. Thanks for clearing it up. Kim --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Sailboard Hanna, Alberta (403) 854-4309 (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 225 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 03/31/94 1:36a Subj: HOW FAST DO I NEED? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JD> Please keep us informed as to your success or lack thereof! At the moment it doesn't look good. I re-read the PC info file from PC BBS and see where it says a 286 is the minimum requirement. Guess the software uses protected mode and so will not run on 8088/86 machines. Seems speed is not the issue at all. What the heck, may as well try it anyway. If it works I'll let All know, if not I'll just shame facedly shut up about it <g>. --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Sailboard Hanna, Alberta (403) 854-4309 (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 226 To: JOHN CAMPBELL Date: 04/01/94 12:21a Subj: Re: Planet Connect Reciever Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >hot as this thing runs, I can't help to believe that it was not a >tempature related failure.... I have since come up with a simple >solution to hopefully settle this problem... A radio shack 12 Volt Mini >Fan (R/S PN 273-244), and a 9 volt dc wall adapter... Pointed the fan >into the side of the reciever, and bingo stays very cool. For about John, Which receiver do you have? I have the little one that goes with the 3ft KU band dish.. and it doesn't get hot at all. Now the power supply gets a quite warm, but never hot.. Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK COONEY Number: 227 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 04/01/94 12:52a Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MF> flaming, and general hog wash responces are overwhelming. I agree to go wit MF> the majority here, but I sure don't want to be associated with alot of node MF> who post in here, I am glad I don't have to be. Have a nice life. Murry, I'm guessing your post concerning K12_FWY was written while you were experiencing a "bad reaction" to some sort of medication. If you go back and re-read what you posted, now that your better, you may be able to understand why the majority of the people who replied, replied as they did. * JABBER v1.2 * --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0161] * Origin: Beggars Banquet 716-265-3505 (1:2613/133) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 228 To: SID BALCOM Date: 03/31/94 3:55p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I'll gladly buy it. I'm sitting here going through the > 'cooling off' period waiting for the receiver to be built, and > I've got almost another 3 weeks of anticipation. I'll buy his > system in a heartbeat! I can sympathize with you. I can't believe there are folks out there complaining over such trivial things as a couple of echoes when there are people like you who are desperately waiting for a system. Well, let me help you on this. You won't regret it. I've been with them since the beta period and it has been the best thing I have ever done for my BBS. Let me knwo if you need any assitance when you get your system in. Later! --- Gecho/386 1.02+ * Origin: * Futura BBS - Planet Connected In NC! (704)739-0013 * (1:3667/500) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 229 To: MARTY DUPLISSEY Date: 04/01/94 1:20a Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Marty! In a message to All <03/15/94> Marty Duplissey wrote: MD> Hello All! MD> If Anyone is interested I have wipped up a fix for using raid with MD> Wcff. It is in testing right now and if all goes well will be put up for MD> freq in the next few days. This utility will allow you to make multiple p MD> at raid messages while tweeking the appropiate wcff.cfg file. Let me know MD> there is any interest before we waste the bandwith to distribute it. cool... Sounds great.. looking forward to it <<sig.imp * WCE 1.5/2119 * ************ ßeta testers are CRAZY! ************ --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE VOLD Number: 230 To: TONY ARCADI Date: 03/29/94 1:46p Subj: Re: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tony said the following to Steve Vold about Re: Services TA> I've run a free BBS in the past, it has a certain level of TA> satisfaction, and its a lot less stressful, I really ran it for TA> self-gratification. I don't see why everyone is even debating the TA> issue, I've seen excellent free boards, and really poor pay boards, TA> and vice-versa, I dont think whether you charge or not has any TA> bearing at all on the quality of the board. TA> For what its worth, I am now a pay board, and I am making the TA> requisite changes.... Hi there, Its not that I was trying to have an argument about wich is which or what is what... All my point or points were to reflect that, if you or *anybody* want to run your board as *FREE* that is fine by me, but don't start telling me that BBS's should be a public service that is *FREE* for the sake of information exchage. That was the original argument. I believe everyone pays a price for information, buy a newspaper, get cable, buy a magazine, and so on, all are sources of information, and all have a price. Even the crap that the Inquirer prints is information that someone sells. That is my point.... period. As a pay board you do have more resposibilities I believe, and mostly, if its pay and a good board, people will use it, but I would never pay a pay board that was crap. And even when I call a so called *FREE* board, if I use there services, I make a valid attempt to contrbute to there systems needs. Steve --- Pony Express/RA 2.01Pro/FE 1.4+ * Origin: The Pony Express BBS - (403) 783 - 8795 (1:134/5010) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM FIERRO Number: 231 To: ALL Date: 04/01/94 4:10p Subj: PSORT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CC> DL:}You can FREQ PSORT from 1:203/7707 and get the latest copy. Be CC> :}sure to get the necessary companion file DOS4GW at the same time. I was watching this and didn't think much of getting the program when only housing 50 echos. Now that I have the full backbone imported into the system, I tried this program a few minutes ago. Just example folks, not exactly calculated to the exact numbers, so don't shoot me down on 'exact' numbers. :) 486-dx40, LANtastic Workstation, DV and QEMM, 1 node of the bbs running, 1 node scanning newsgroups to send out, 1 node importing the .qwk mail, and the test node #4 running this test while all the other nodes are running active. Setting the SET statements to be QUIET and the other to DOS16M=:1M, and the mail drives are local drives and don't need to go across the network. And the results were like this; APPROXIMATELY 5mb of compressed packets 14mb uncompressed 2 minutes to sort with the 1Mb I gave it and another 30 minutes to import it. I use FidoPCB as the tosser. That was on the last run of the dish. I don't know if this is a small day or if I only had that much good, but it shows you an idea. Now I do know that using a 386-dx40 with the hard drives on the LAN using 2mpbs cards took about 3 hours to do this with not using PSORT. I know now I am using a faster hard drive and maybe today's 5mb load is smaller than normal, but I thought I would show some stats to you all here who are thinking of trying it. TRENDS! * Bringing you the mail via a satellite from 24,456 miles in the sky! --- * RoseReader 2.50* P003065 Entered at [RACER] --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: TRENDS! Node #2 * Sumner, WA * (206) 863-5877 * (1:138/165) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WALTON Number: 232 To: ALL Date: 04/01/94 3:22p Subj: looking for Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I am looking for 2 utilities maybe someone here can point me in the right direction.... 1) a tick utility that will scan the inbound directory and move only thoses files and ticks that exist as a pair to another directory. 2) a files.bbs utility, I need something I can run that will scan throgh a list of directories checking the files and deleting anything over x days. Thanks Bill --- DB 1.54/003857 * Origin: Atlantic Access (1:255/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 233 To: TIM HELTON Date: 04/01/94 4:35p Subj: Echo Rules Refer: NONE Read: 04/03/94 6:52p Private: No Tim, I would appreciate it if you would post the echo rules, that way I can see what is on topic in here, along with evryone else. Thank you, Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 234 To: ADAM FARKAS Date: 04/02/94 4:43a Subj: this is a test... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to All, Adam Farkas said: AF>... This is a test... Anyone see this besides me? AF>Ignore after April 1. Nope. Nobody saw it but you. You must be doing something wrong. <GRIN> --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 235 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 04/01/94 8:21a Subj: Lantastic AI Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Osborne wrote in a message to Rick Weber: DO> Some other things that you need to check that might help. DO> If you don't have a 16550, get one. It won't work without DO> it under DV or a network. It will under Novell... --- timEd-A10c * Origin: <CyBorg ConTrol> - Where better things happen... (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HERRBACH Number: 236 To: ANYONE Date: 04/01/94 3:03p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Anyone, Please reply to verify connection to PC via netmail if possible. Thanks. John {|-) --- Msgedsq 2.2e * Origin: SPOT!! Don't chew that cabl@#$#%%$^#%HHF NO TERRIER (1:159/950) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 237 To: JEFF BOWMAN Date: 04/01/94 7:32p Subj: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JB} DW> Are there any AreaMgr's that work with WildCat/WCFF for JB} DW> requesting file echo's? JB} there are none right now... But, from what I have heard, with 3.5 it JB} will all be built in From what I understand from OCR, they are still some time away from release of WCFF 4.something -- You may want to look into another program for the time being. Both ALLFIX and FILEMGR will work with the WildCat/WCFile combo. I've been able to get ALLFIX functioning very well with WCFile. My thanks to Chris Stone for posting his setup for the ALLFIX/WCFile configuration. If you want to stay with WCFF, the current version is 3.53. RAID will work with WCFF and allow auto processing of file area requests, as well as some other features. RAID is designed to work with TICK, but the current version of WCFF is a TICK clone. You must point RAID to WCFF.CFG instead of TIC.CFG, and you need to add a verb to WCFF.CFG. WCFF uses the verb "INFILES" for the incoming files area, while TICK uses the verb "IN". RAID is hard coded to look for "IN", so just add it to WCFF.CFG. Have both IN and INFILES point to the incoming file area, and RAID will work fine. Current version of RAID is 1.23, and is available from the author at 13/13 -- Be sure to get both RAID files, RAID123 and RDOC. Dean * WCE 1.5/2034 * --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream BBS * Peoria,IL * (1:232/30.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 238 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 04/01/94 9:21p Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MB} WM TOSS SCAN NETMAIL (with the PRETOSS option set in WM) MB} SORTPKT MB} WM PRETOSS MB} Is this the way to do it? I haven't been able to figure out any other MB} way to get those .PKT files extracted from the .TU? and into the MB} PRETOSS directory without running the first line. Yep, thats it. SortPKT is an "extra" utility given out with WildMail. The docs even say that it will only work on your pretossed packets. Won't do a thing for downlinks, and that is its major shortcoming. Since you don't pass mail on, the above is not as efficient as it could be. You are actually processing the mail twice. Once into the pretoss area, sorting it, then processing again into your message base. The total time may still be less than it used to be, since you are actually handling a bunch of messages 3 times faster. Look for a Netmail in your incoming, will ship you the short text file. Dean * WCE 1.5/2034 * --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream BBS * Peoria,IL * (1:232/30.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 239 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 04/01/94 7:00a Subj: Re: Bbs <-> Internet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->HOLONET can provide you with a host.domain for, I believe, $50 ( or was ->it $75? -- have to check in BoardWatch). Holonet can also provide you ->with a return feed for UseNet and Internet. ASA CompuHelp can also ->provide you with a return feed, but I'm not sure about getting you a ->host.domain. Thanks John! Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS GUERTIN Number: 240 To: BARRY HERBERT Date: 04/01/94 1:20p Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Check out what Barry Herbert wrote on 28 Mar 94 21:24:19: BH> I'm running on an Amiga 3000T and fortunately, I also have an Me too! BH> Boyd, if you're reading this, perhaps you could give heavy BH> concideration to developing Amiga software that would let other BH> Amiga oriented BBS's access the satellite feeds. BH> I know....There are more IBM BBS's out there than AMiga, BUT BH> there is a large market that Planet Connect is missing. Give it some BH> thought anyway. I second this motion, most definitely. There are over 5,000 Amiga-run BBSs in the current FidoNet NODELIST... --- DLG Pro v1.0/PDQMail v2.53 * Origin: Fat Agnus - A Quality System, Planet Connected (1:225/330) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY CREMONESE Number: 241 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 04/01/94 11:22a Subj: SO MANY DIFFERENT NETS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MF> I don't, and so don't several other folks who pay big money. I believe that you see a real problem with the K12 stuff, but I can't understand what it is you are saying about it. Being new to FidoNet and naive about the politics, I see Planet Connect doing pretty much what the telephone company does. I doubt you would tell the telephone company what to include. How can you complain about what PC includes, since it is SO EASY to pitch stuff into the bit bucket once it gets to your computer. As far as ease of utilization and costs of delivery go, I would like to see all of those Fido, QWK and Rime based echos come down in the FidoNet stuff. Why do we need so many different formats and separate nets? I will listen if you care to explain. Tony Cremonese tony@acornbbs.com --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: *AcornBBS*Freeport,ME*USA*207-865-3004* (1:326/406) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 242 To: MARK KRIEG Date: 04/01/94 12:53p Subj: This Echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mark! In a message to All <03/31/94> Mark Krieg wrote: MK> I've got an idea, how about renaming this conference to PC_DEBATE, MK> and beginning a new moderated conference for PC Tech Support! I think we have to much debate already, so I think the debate ought to be done on their own nickle via netmail so those of us who are not wishing to read the crap can smile while their phone bill goes up. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Excuse me, I have to recharge my flamethrower. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID LIVINGSTON Number: 243 To: ADAM FARKAS Date: 04/01/94 1:10p Subj: this is a test... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> ... This is a test... Anyone see this besides me? -> Ignore after April 1. -> -> -=- -> * SLMR 2.1 * Hello, I am part number ||+||||#||+||+|| -> -> --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#2155) -> * Origin: Wolf's Information Center BBS (1:141/1070) -> DID I PASS YOUR TEST????? LATER --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ROPER Number: 244 To: WALTER CADE Date: 04/01/94 11:08p Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> < Bill is quoted as sayint to Mart> -> -> If you were a good guy, you'd send it to Boyd for -> -> distribution over the bird.... if you were a REAL good -> -> guy, you'd just send it to me on your nickel (g)..... -> -> True Bill, but this new PreRaid stuff is cool. You can even freq it -> here. ......Tell you what. Freq here or at Marty's board and we WONT -> EVEN SEND you a bill. <G> Hi, Walter.... sorry, you're too late... Marty WAS a good guy and sent it to me on his nickel (thanks, Marty......) cheers... Bill... --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ART MACK Number: 245 To: TIM HELTON Date: 04/02/94 1:30a Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: 04/03/94 6:56p Private: No Hello Tim! In a message to Kim Bergman <03/30/94> Tim Helton wrote: TH> 99% of the participants of this echo are fluent in normal FidoNet TH> policy... Here recently, the other 1% has dominated the discussions. TH> My thanks to the 99%. The other 1% can look forward to feed cuts. Tim I am curiuos, how can you cut a satellite feed? Are you working for Planet Connect? * WCE 1.5/2087 * Mail not found: (a)bort (r)etry (p)anic (b)lame sysop --- WM v3.10/92-0555 * Origin: NFE BBS Lafayette IN, 317-447-9653 nfe.com (1:201/70.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 246 To: WALTER CADE Date: 04/01/94 11:04a Subj: Re: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >-> -> What is the easy and cheapest way to get a network running >Install mechanical legs on it. Should be under $10,000. >Walter Walter, Don't forget, you then have to position it on a really steep incline and give it a slight boot to get it going. Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GENE BALMAIN Number: 247 To: JOHN LE DUC Date: 04/01/94 7:27p Subj: SERVICES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: SERVICES BY: John Le Duc to Gene Balmain on Thu Mar 31 1994 12:32 pm > As I said, you're not a sysop, nor a member of Fido. If you > wish the nodelist entry changed, send the proper request. As NC I will deal > with it.... Ok change it to Frank Sener & Gene Balmain.... we are equal. I have a question... do you have a Signed Contract with PC? GENE --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: Vegas PlayGround! * Las Vegas, NV * 702-386-7979 * (1:209/276) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CARLOS SALAS Number: 248 To: ALL Date: 04/01/94 12:59p Subj: Planet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi All. I would like more information about Planet Connect. Where/How can I get it? --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Fusion Mail System - San Juan, PR (1:367/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 249 To: MARTIN BELCKE Date: 04/01/94 7:41a Subj: RE: KY_DA DA DA Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > area. If it has it's own rulebase, then we would have to call a > different system to return mail as Boyd's inbound would consider the > mail to be bad messages. Yeah, I thought of that the next day. Oh, well. --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 250 To: DALE WOOD Date: 04/01/94 5:37a Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello again, Dale! DW|Here's my STARTNET.BAT. DW|Right now I fire it up manually when I need to move mail from the PC |workstation to the BBS machine. I like your idea about moving all mail |operations onto the workstation. Believe I'll give that a try when I |reconfigure my system to running each node from a workstation. Works for me. What can I say. <g> I don't have the luxury of running anything manually since I'm gone when all of this is taking place. <g> DW|I've made no modifications to this other then REMing out the LOADHI |statements since I'm running it from DOS. Don't really have much of a |clue as to whether or not it might be correct as this is what was |configured for me by the software setup routine. Yes, nothing there non-standard. Why not load high - either with QEMM or DOS? Sure did improve my performance here. Good luck with it. .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * Natchez - Where the Old South Still Lives & Lives & Liv --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 1:3632/42 (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 251 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 04/01/94 6:16a Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No | Please excuse my ignorance, for i am a product of the public school |system, but since graduation, I have had no problems with my employee's |understanding my drift. I am sure pompous remarks are your specialty. Excuse me, sir, but I am also a product of the public school system, and proud of it. Why should that be used as an excuse for spelling and grammatical errors? Get into K12; you might learn something - "a lot" in fact. Pompous is as pompous does, and that is what started this thread! Do you get the drift? .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * Internet Address: macbryant@delphi.com --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 1:3632/42 (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 252 To: RICHARD WALLEN Date: 03/31/94 4:26a Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -=>On 23 Mar 94 12:59:35, Dexter Wright retorted to Martin Belcke<=- -> -=>about Tic Files<=- -> -> Hello Dexter, -> -> -> A TIC processor would automatically toss the files into the prope -> -> areas and add the decriptions to the file database. IF you are u -> -> Wildcat, you would use WCFF. -> -> DW> Are there any AreaMgr's that work with WildCat/WCFF for -> DW> requesting file echo's? -> -> If you find one let me know... also I found out real quick that wcff -> couldn't handle the entire filebone setup in the wcff.cfg so I had to -> create 3 of them in order to process it all. -> -> Alittle more each day... -> -> Richard Raid works fine with WCFF....it's WCFF that sucks. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: T.O.L. * 15 Gigs * InterNet * (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 253 To: BILL ROPER Date: 03/31/94 4:42a Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> Have heard rumors that ALLFIX is going to be compatible with -> Wildcat, too.... -> -> cheers... I would give $100 for that!!! I just dumped WCFF for an ALLFIX/WCFILE combo. The WCFILE side is a pain to set up. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: T.O.L. * 15 Gigs * InterNet * (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 254 To: TIMOTHY TRACE Date: 03/31/94 7:48a Subj: WildMail! 3.1 stuff.. 1/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello, Timothy! TT|Mac, your slow tossing problem can be solved in these steps: TT|1) Don't do a complete toss under LANtastic's SERVER _or_ Desqview. |Both of these are multitaskers; you're cutting your CPU time markedly. |Think about it: if you're running both of 'em, you're actually running |a multitasker in a window of another multitasker. And that provides |exceptionally crappy performance. <g> How can I possibly do this - automatically? I plead ignorance here. No problem taking down DV and/or Lantastic if I'm at the console, but I have no idea whatsoever how to take them down with a batch file. TT|2) Hip WildMail! trick 'o the month: locate your message base DATAFILES |on a different _physical_ drive than where your inbound PKTs are |located. That way a single HDD doesn't have to hop, skip, and jump its |headstack around first reading the inbound PKT, then writing into the |WildCat! BTREE message base. Splitting the action up between two |HDDs really works. I found it added about 15 messages per minute on |my system... But that seems to work fine here - with no loss of performance on the BBS. I have my tosser, all the message bases, the \DATA for WC, and Planet Connect on a dedicated machine. The mail comes in and is tossed without any slow down on the BBS machine. Seems to work fine. TT|3) NO STACKER, SUPERSTOR, ADDSTOR, DOUBLESPACE, WHATEVER!!! ON YOUR |MESSAGE BASE DATAFILES. Oh, it's perfectly safe, but it really throws a |monkey wrench in the ol' transmission (if you get my meaning). None of that here. I have a 1.05 gig drive on the PC machine, and a 1.8 gig drive on the BBS machine with no disk compression necessary. TT|4) Run a good-sized disk cache during tossing. I'm talking greater |than 3072k, if possible. Turn on the cache's delayed-writes option, |and turn on the "RETURN PROMPT FAST" option. A lot of folks use |HYPERDISK and love it. I, also, think it's the fastest cacheing |software available, but I use SMARTDRV 5.2 for its built-in CD-ROM |cacheing abilities. I now have HYPERDKX set to 4096 with delayed writes enabled. How do you turn on the RETURN PROMPT FAST option. Would you share the command line for HYPERDKX even though you don't use it? I don't have my CDRoms online right now. (Not enough memory to load MSCDEX plus all the other stuff and not lose so much memory WC doesn't want to load). As soon as I can get the other stuff worked out, I'll put the CDRoms back online. BTW, the version of HYPERDKX I have is dated 8-24-93. Does anybody know if that's the latest? TT|5) Use WildMail!'s PRETOSS option. This will create temporary *.PKTs |that can be tossed much, much faster by WildMail! in an offline event. |You'll be able to turn on the PREPROCESS ECHOMAIL option in |WMCONFIG.EXE's SYSTEM INFORMATION --> BBS SPECIFIC OPTIONS menu. That I have done and now I've tripled my tossing/min. Up to 181/min but I'm using the PURGE option. That takes less time that WCREPAIR on some 950 message bases. <g> TT|6) For even more speed with the PRETOSS option, try using the |SORTPKT.EXE utility that shipped with WildMail!. It will crack open all |the inbound packets, and sort them into a single packet on a |conference-by-conference basis. That way, WildMail! doesn't have to |spend as much time locking and releasing each conference's datafile. That I am doing as well. Thanks to you and others who contributed that tip. TT|7) If you _really_ want speed, run WMCONFIG.EXE and look under the |SYSTEM INFORMATION --> BBS SPECIFIC INFORMATION menu. Turn the |"MAINTAIN MESSAGE LEVELS" switch to "N". Press F1 and read the helpfile |before you do, however: if you allow WildMail! to toss without purging, |you're going to eat up valuable disk space with conference |datafiles. REALLY FAST. I allow WildMail! to "PURGE BEFORE TOSS", |after decideing that I need my valuable disk space more than a couple |dozen messages-per-minute. Agreed. Like I said, worth the extra time to maintain the message levels. I had some conferences that had grown to 10meg+ without it. TT|Ok. All that being said, here's how I toss mail on my system. TT| a) Just-recieved inbound PKTs are _pretossed_ by WildMail. | The command line at this point is simply WM TOSS NETMAIL. | Even the 3.5meg of echomail I get a day only takes 5-8 minutes | to pretoss. Gotcha. I run that - then SORTPKT - then WM PRETOSS. TT| b) Run Michael Conley's NETBULL utility. Check it out. Been running that one for a long time. Great utility! TT| c) In Frontdoor, I have events scheduled to WM SCAN MAILOUT | _only_ at specific times. This cuts down on time delays (Continued to next message) * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * Sometimes I wake up grouchy, sometimes I let him sleep. --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 1:3632/42 (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 255 To: TIMOTHY TRACE Date: 03/31/94 7:48a Subj: WildMail! 3.1 stuff.. 2/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No (Continued from previous message) | caused by the infamous "UPDATING HIGH WATER MARK" message. I have this running at 3am before FD calls to deliver to the three systems I send to. TT| d) In an offline event, reboot your system with _very clean_ | AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS files. No Desqview, and no | LANtastic SERVER (if you can help it). Make sure you run a | fairly good size disk cache, > 3072k, with the delayed writes | turned on. Then, issue the command line WM PRETOSS. After | WildMail!'s done running, don't forget to copy your BBS's | configuration files back into your boot directory. I'm not sure I understand that last sentence. What configuration files? And (g) *what* boot directory? TT|Just as an FYI, my system is very similar to yours: 386DX/33 w/ 8meg |RAM, 2 Maxtor HDDs, DOS 6.2, QEMM 7.3, SMARTDRV 5.2, LANtastic AI 5.0, |Desqview 2.62, WildCat! 3.9m, and WildMail! 3.1. I get around 400 |messages per minute in the pretoss, and about 280 in the final toss. |Joe Martin (the author of WildMail!) has told me that's blazing fast |for a 386DX/33 system. Including a complete WCRENUMX -a event, it takes |my system about 20 minutes _total_ to process 3.5meg of echomail. That is indeed fast on a 386. I have a 486/33 doing this and, as I said, only getting about 181/min. However that is such a drastic increase from the 60/min I was getting that I'm relatively satisfied with it. The WCRENUMX I need to add to an event since some of the numbers are approaching the limit. Don't you think once a week ought to get it? TT|Hope I've been of some help. If you need any more assistance, contact |me at the addresses below. Or call my board, if you like! Thanks, Timothy. You've been a big help. Now if you will just answer my few questions, I may just be *in* business. <g> Have a good one. .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * Sometimes I wake up grouchy, sometimes I let him sleep. --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 1:3632/42 (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 256 To: ART MACK Date: 04/03/94 7:14p Subj: Services Refer: 245 Read: NO Private: No -> Tim I am curiuos, how can you cut a satellite feed? Are you working f -> Connect? If he's feeding direct from Planet Connect, I'll require Boyd to make the conference "read only" for his node... Specifically, any mail originating from his system would not be redistributed. No, I'm not working for Planet Systems. I'm in no way associated with the company... I'm just the (unbiased) moderator. tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 257 To: ALL Date: 04/03/94 7:43p Subj: Murry Francis Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Please, let's end this thread. It gets old and it does nothing more than pander to this guy's quest for attention. EOT (please). tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED WHITTOM Number: 258 To: ALL Date: 03/31/94 6:18a Subj: Second Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Has anyone tried to use 2 different hard drives (C&D) for receiving files and messages. I want to use drive C for all the nets and drive D for all the files. I have tried just about everything and nothing seems to work. Thanks in advance, Fred --- WM v3.10/93-0786 * Origin: THE BACKDOOR BBS Williamsburg, VA (1:271/320) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SID BALCOM Number: 259 To: MARTIN BELCKE Date: 04/02/94 4:17a Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <Mar 31 19:32>, MARTIN BELCKE (1:232/10) writes: -> What I would like to see is people being able to add echos to the fid -> downlink from PC just by sending it to boyd. We have got some nifty -> there, and by just sending it to one place we can virtually add it to -> backbone without any of the current hassles, it's a great deal. MB>>Actually, what you would be doing is adding it to PLanet Connect, NOT MB>>the Fido Backbone as areas that are not on the backbone would just goto MB>>the bit bucket when they arrived at 396/1 (Southern Star), that is MB>>assuming that Boyd sent them to him, which he wouldn't. It sort of looks to me as if Planet Connect could also have their own backbone - in addition to the various other networks they carry. A collection of echoes that are available only via the satellite. ++ Sid ++ --- Alexi/Mail 2.00a5 (#2) * Origin: The Catalytic Star - Alexandria, VA 703-765-1751 (1:109/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LE DUC Number: 260 To: CHRIS GUERTIN Date: 04/02/94 12:38p Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Chris Guertin wrote in a message to Barry Herbert: CG> There are over 5,000 Amiga-run BBSs in the current FidoNet CG> NODELIST... First, I'm not arguing your point, nor making a comment re: Amiga. I am simply curious as to how you extracted the info from the nodelist? Is there a flag for Amiga now? If so, I'll put it up for the two Amigas in our net. TTYL, John --- * Origin: The GeneSplicer's BBS-Las Vegas,NV (1:209/720) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 261 To: TIM HELTON Date: 04/01/94 8:46p Subj: phone and dish? Refer: NONE Read: 04/04/94 6:59p Private: No Tim Helton wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: TH> Yeah, I'm here. I've been busy as hell for the past month TH> moving to my new house and publishing our CD-ROM tites. Did you get that dish fixed? I've tried to call you 3 different days last week and you didn't answer... must be nice to lay out in the Florida morning sun and let it ring. <g> --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY GREEN Number: 262 To: JAMES NERLINGER Date: 04/02/94 10:16p Subj: Services. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (01 Apr 94) James Nerlinger wrote to Johnny Green... JN> JG> Check the PRICES.TXT for details, and the JN> SKYDATA\PERSONAL for the JN> JG> latest updates on these areas. JN> JN> Where can I find these files? Sorry, James, I had assumed you already had our system. Oops ! These files are dload'd daily on our system. The best way for you to get a good overview of this info is to freq PCINFO.TXT from our system at 1:3615/50. This will tell you about the hardware options and an overview of the subscription pricing. JN> JG> The Internet Usenet groups are currently ramped up in JN> quanity. JN> JN> What does that mean? Our current provider has been a little slow about getting us the quanity of Usenet that we wanted. We are this week going to start accepting another feed and compare or combine the two in order to raise the volume of Usenet we are sending. JN> What would it cost to get me up and running -- equipment, lease, JN> monthly fees, out the door? JN> Quick overview: 2' Ku dish system less coax cable......$495.00 A: 3" Ku dish system less coax cable......$569.00 7.5' C band system less coax cable.....$649.00 or B: Lease...$200.00 refundable deposit, $18.50 per month, payable quarterly...... C: Which subscription term, and which services.... Details in the PCINFO.TXT, and feel free to call our office for more complete info. ... Planet Systems / Skylink (615) 623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Planet Systems / Skylink 615-623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY GREEN Number: 263 To: CARLOS SALAS Date: 04/02/94 10:36p Subj: Planet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (01 Apr 94) Carlos Salas wrote to All... CS> Hi All. I would like more information about Planet Connect. Where/How CS> can I get it? CS> Either call our office at 615-623-8300 and request the info pack or leave your info (address for shipping and the like), here and we will send it to you. Thanks for the inquire... ... Planet Systems / Skylink (615) 623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Planet Systems / Skylink 615-623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALLACE SHELDON Number: 264 To: JOHNNY GREEN Date: 04/02/94 4:29p Subj: Dongle and OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No WS> at Planet Connect should have told you that it WS> would work, unless they WS> have a ACTUAL knowledge of it working. JG> Check that last message, Wally, and remember JG> that I will not release JG> any names until I have spoken with that person,PERSONALLY, to get JG> their permission. JG> You will not read fiction from us here, Wally. Johnny, I'm not suggesting that you would tell people something that is fiction, that wasn't the intent of the full message. I was pointing out that no one that has talked to you saying they have it working has come out publicly in this Echo or the PCSITES Echo and stated that they actualy have it working on OS/2 and their secret for making it work. I don't believe you or anyone else at PC should state that it will work on OS/2 without having first hand knowledge of it actualy working as opposed to hear-say reporting. I'm very happy to hear that the Dongle manufacturer is working on the problem, and, yes, it is frustrating when we hear reports that it is SUPPOSED to work on OS/2 and one then spends hours and $$'s trying to make it work only to find out from those that REALY know OS/2 that it JUST WON'T WORK and we've wasted are time and money. Wally --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 265 To: JIM WATSON Date: 04/02/94 8:19p Subj: Re: Lantastic Ai Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DO>> Some other things that you need to check that might help. DO>> If you don't have a 16550, get one. It won't work without DO>> it under DV or a network. JW> It will under Novell... It also will under Lantastic/AI. I don't have a 16550 in my satellite machine, yett don't have any trouble with it. --jah ... Civilization is a Race between Education and Catastrophe! --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 266 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 04/02/94 3:18p Subj: RE: KY_DA DA DA Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Yeah, I thought of that the next day. Oh, well. There you go again, thinking. That is the primary cause of loss of hair (grin).... --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUSSELL NABER Number: 267 To: JOHN CAMPBELL Date: 04/02/94 8:17p Subj: Planet Connect Reciever Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! Wednesday March 30 1994, John Campbell writes to All: JC> I just had a problem with my Planet Connect Data Reciever that JC> started showing almost 90% errors... Planet Systems sent me a new data JC> reciever with no questions asked, and shipped it next day.. However, as JC> hot as this thing runs, I can't help to believe that it was not a JC> tempature related failure.... I have since come up with a simple JC> solution to hopefully settle this problem... A radio shack 12 Volt Mini JC> Fan (R/S PN 273-244), and a 9 volt dc wall adapter... Pointed the fan JC> into the side of the reciever, and bingo stays very cool. For about JC> $20.00 (well worth the insurance of downtime and missed data) is about JC> the whole deal, and is very quiet to boot.... JC> Must give a hand to Planet Systems, in particular Johnny, He (they) JC> have really be great at tech support for me... I too have experienced errors. I am on my third receiver, (PC customer service on this subject is great.) You should see my solution. I took a 2 inch AC boxer fan and stuffed into a old bicycle water bottle on one end and pointed the smaller into the reciever's grill vents to keep air flow across it!! Keeps the reciever cooler, now for the power supply temps, I am crossing my fingers on this one.<g> Russell * Origin: BLACK DIAMOND BBS-GILLETTE WY-307-682-6944 (1:15/24) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN CAMPBELL Number: 268 To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 04/03/94 12:02a Subj: Re: Planet Connect Reciev Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DP> >hot as this thing runs, I can't help to believe that it was not a DP> >tempature related failure.... I have since come up with a simple DP> >solution to hopefully settle this problem... A radio shack 12 Volt Mini DP> >Fan (R/S PN 273-244), and a 9 volt dc wall adapter... Pointed the fan DP> >into the side of the reciever, and bingo stays very cool. For about DP>John, DP> Which receiver do you have? I have the little one DP> that goes with the 3ft KU band dish.. and it doesn't DP> get hot at all. Now the power supply gets a quite DP> warm, but never hot.. DP>Dave P. DP>--- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079) DP> * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) Dave, I run the KU with the 2 foot dish John --- ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ It's only a hobby ... only a hobby ... only a --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff276/b] * Origin: Sparkies Machine BBS (703) 266-4299 (1:2602/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN CAMPBELL Number: 269 To: JEFF OLESEN Date: 04/03/94 12:03a Subj: Re: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JO>BG> You will have to get the rime nodes to talk with Bonnie who is head of JO>the JO>BG>network. If she says ok then its fine by me. JO>On a slight tangent Boyd, is the RIME feed out of the testing stage JO>yet? In other words, is it worth my while to call up and get a new code JO>for my lock to put RIME online ( I am a re-newing RIME node ) via the JO>bird?? JO>--- JO> * DeLuxe*/386 1.25 #7679 * Never, never, never *MOON* a werewolf!! JO> * RoseMail 2.10*: * NaNet 61/31/11 * Viking's Cove * (613)394-0685 JO>--- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' JO> * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) Jeff, Rime seems to work ok.... But I do not think that it is a full feed yet... It does however work. I am running it here... You will need to get the new software from Bonnie. John --- ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ Press any key to continue or any other key to quit --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff276/b] * Origin: Sparkies Machine BBS (703) 266-4299 (1:2602/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 270 To: DEAN LAKE Date: 04/02/94 8:32a Subj: WILDMAIL! 3.1 STUFF... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Joe also recommends no more than 40 message data file groups > in any one subdirectory. In other words, don't take the > MSG???.DIA/DAT/IX files from 200 conferences and put them all > into one subdirectory. Wildmail will lose time wading through Dean, It's fairly well-known that DOS bogs down when there's over about 250 files in a single subdirectory. It gets much worse at multiples of that number (500, 750, etc.) You should always try to keep the number of files to 250 or fewer if it's possible. --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB DELUGACH Number: 271 To: TIM HELTON Date: 04/02/94 5:36p Subj: Re: Feed Cut Refer: NONE Read: 04/04/94 7:04p Private: No In a message to Murry Francis <04/01/94> Tim Helton wrote: TH> I assume that you havn't seen my previous posts to you. Here it is TH> again: IF YOU CONTINUE THIS THREAD I'M GOING TO CUT YOUR FEED TO THIS TH> ECHO. This is your last chance. TH> tim TH> moderator I seem to have missed your carbon of the above threat sent to ALL who have joined in on this pissing match, yourself included. Moderator does not mean dictator. While you're in the dictionary, try looking up TACT. --- WM v3.10/93-0976 * Origin: BYTES BBS, Kent, OH (216) (1:2215/450) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK MALACARNE Number: 272 To: ALL Date: 04/02/94 11:13a Subj: Ok my turn to test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ok sorry for this BUT I just want to make sure that messages are going out <G>.. If ya see this please post back <G>.. Thanks! Mark M. tlotl@net.com ... He's not dead Jim! He's Metabolically Challenged! --- Cray Systems .002+ * Origin: -= TLOTL =- In The Rockies! (1:104/918) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 273 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/02/94 2:20p Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! In a message to Richard Wallen <03/31/94> John Lyon wrote: JL> Raid works fine with WCFF....it's WCFF that sucks. John yesterday a file came in the pcutils area called MAKEWCFF.ZIP which automates Wcff very nicely, also one called TICMOVE.ZIP simply moves .tic's and companion files to be processed only if the pair are in the same directory to be moved. Give them a shot and let me know what you think of them. I wrote them to overcome WCFF's short coming and they work well for me. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * John Wayne would have used WcEDIT! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID LIVINGSTON Number: 274 To: JOHN HERRBACH Date: 04/02/94 8:49p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hello Anyone, -> -> Please reply to verify connection to PC via netmail if possible. Tha -> -> John {|-) -> -> --- Msgedsq 2.2e -> * Origin: SPOT!! Don't chew that cabl@#$#%%$^#%HHF NO TERRIER (1:159 -> CONECTION VERIFIED --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN KAUFMAN Number: 275 To: ALL Date: 04/02/94 6:05p Subj: TEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi - I hate to do this, but can someone please reply to this to confirm my outbounds. Thanks. ┌──────────────┬─────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ John Kaufman │ Fidonet: 1:104/675 │""""│ │ │ OFFWoRLD BBS │ Internet: john.kaufman@f675.n104.z1.fidonet.org │ │ 303-343-6978 │ ITCnet: 85:824/116 [( Oo )] │ └──────────────┴─────────────────────────────-oOO──(__)──OOo─────┘ --- GEcho/Synchronet * Origin: OFFWoRLD (303)343·0691/0693/6978 (1:104/675) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 276 To: MIKE NYMAN Date: 04/01/94 2:27a Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Mike, Regarding your message to Kevin Lechner ..... >> >> JB> What is the easy and cheapest way to get a network running >> >> find a couple of used ethernet cards, 8 bit cards work MN> Or Kevin he could find a copy of PC Conectivite which comes MN> with a copy of lantastic Z and run a nul modem cable all for MN> about 40$ . The $40 cost you mention appeals to me. I don't know what PC Conectivite is though. Could that be PC Connectivity? No matter, I've never heard of that one either. Can you give me a few more details on it, like ... Is it shareware/commercial? Where would be a good place to look for it? Is it better than the idea of moving the files with Hydra or DSZ using some batch file finesse? Kim --- * Origin: The Sailboard (403)-854-4309 Hanna, Alberta (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 277 To: JOSEPH LAFERLA Date: 04/01/94 5:26a Subj: Dongle and OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Joseph, JL> PC told me that an OS2 version will be available soon. Johnny Green's recent message to me here reinforces what you just said, very encouraging. JL> Do you have much experience with OS2? I also would like JL> specific details of installation and I think it would be JL> nice if PC provided us with details. I've been on OS/2 for almost 2 years. I'm still learning but feel pretty confident with it. Once they tweak the dongle so it works with OS/2 I think installing will probably be exactly the same as for DOS. There may be a few VDM settings to tweak on the software side but it shouldn't be a problem. Apparently the current software runs OK on OS/2 but the dongle and parallel port don't want to communicate. The "new" dongle should take care of that. JL> BTW, I passed through Hanna last January on my way from Milk JL> River to Edmonton. Stopped at the KFC for lunch too! Look me up if you're ever in Hanna again. Kim --- * Origin: The Sailboard (403)-854-4309 Hanna, Alberta (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 278 To: FRANK SKELLY Date: 04/02/94 1:56a Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KB>If ever I have seen an echo in need of a moderator KB>it *has* to be this one. FS> Hehehe... Did I just see someone voluteer? That wasn't my intention but now that you mention it, yes, I'm willing. I see the real moderator has surfaced however. Kim --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Sailboard Hanna, Alberta (403) 854-4309 (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 279 To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 04/02/94 2:17a Subj: Dongle and OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No WS> it. My bet is that NOBODY is ACTUALY using PC on OS/2 WS> with the current dongle. I don't believe the people at WS> Planet Connect should have told you that it would work, WS> unless they have a ACTUAL knowledge of it working. You're right but maybe the person I talked to was given wrong information. I'm not going to raise a stink about it because they appear to be working on the problem, at least that's what they said in a recent post here. Kim --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Sailboard Hanna, Alberta (403) 854-4309 (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 280 To: TIM HELTON Date: 04/02/94 2:46a Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: 04/04/94 7:06p Private: No TH> My thanks to the 99%. The other 1% can look forward to feed cuts. Welcome back, Tim. Kim --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Sailboard Hanna, Alberta (403) 854-4309 (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 281 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 04/04/94 7:10p Subj: phone and dish? Refer: 261 Read: NO Private: No -> TH> Yeah, I'm here. I've been busy as hell for the past month -> TH> moving to my new house and publishing our CD-ROM tites. -> -> Did you get that dish fixed? I've tried to call you 3 different I'm feedhornless right now... I'm getting all the mail from a local node using ma bell. Everything else is working, though. Tim Helton Data Express, Inc. 11030 NW 26th Place Sunrise, FL 33322 Voice: 305-572-4848 Fax : 305-572-3454 BBS : 305-572-3456 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 282 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 04/04/94 7:06p Subj: Services Refer: 280 Read: NO Private: No -> -> TH> My thanks to the 99%. The other 1% can look forward to feed cuts -> -> Welcome back, Tim. I'm not so sure about that |).. tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 283 To: JOHN HERRBACH Date: 04/02/94 11:46p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Please reply to verify connection to PC via netmail if possible. Tha Hey John, Welcoem aboard, you old dog you. Nice to see some familiar faces from the past still around. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK BRIDWELL Number: 284 To: ART MACK Date: 04/02/94 6:22p Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Sat Apr 02 01:30>, Art Mack of 1:201/70 writes: AM> Tim I am curiuos, how can you cut a satellite feed? Are you working for AM> Planet Connect? What they do is promise not to process any of your return mail inbound to 1:3615/50. Having received such a message from Boyd requested by the moderator of the WHOLLY_BIBLE echo which started with a problem caller on another bbs in our net, I speak from experience. :-) And Boyd didn't put any smileys in the message either. <grin> --- msgedsq 2.1a * Origin: Bink's Barn - Satellite Reception Station - Lawton, OK (1:385/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIMOTHY TRACE Number: 285 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 04/03/94 10:50a Subj: WildMail 3.1 stuff... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Sunday, plagued by troubled thoughts of WildMail! 3.1 stuff, Mac Bryant shared his feelings with Timothy Trace. +------------------------------- | Hello, Timothy! +------------------------------- Hello, youself! +------------------------------- |TT| Don't do a complete toss under LANtastic's SERVER _or_ Desqview. | | How can I possibly do this - automatically? I plead ignorance here. | No problem taking down DV and/or Lantastic if I'm at the console, | but I have no idea how to take them down with a batch file. +------------------------------- Four easy steps, Mac. 1) Create a (relatively) clean AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS. Name them AUTOEXEC.WM3 and CONFIG.WM3. 2) Make backup copies of your existing AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS files. Name them AUTOEXEC.BAK and CONFIG.BAK. 3) In your nightly toss event, copy the *.WM3 files _over_ the existing AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS. Since you're using Hyperdisk's STAGED WRITES, have your batchfile issue the command HYPERDK E to flush the catch. Then, call a utility such as BOOT.COM or the BNU fossil driver to reboot your computer. The new configuration files will take hold, and the AUTOEXEC.WM3 (now named AUTOEXEC.BAT, of course!) will run whatever commands you put in it... 4) At the end of AUTOEXEC.WM3 (remember, now called AUTOEXEC.BAT), copy the *.BAK files to AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS. Next, flush your cache with the HYPERDK E command. Lastly, reboot your computer (again with BOOT.COM or BNU!), and the BBS will magically reappear. I'd provide you with copies of my batchfiles and such, but by the time I edit them so anybody else could understand them (!) you'll have figured out everything on your own... +------------------------------- | TT| NO STACKER, SUPERSTOR, ADDSTOR, DOUBLESPACE, WHATEVER!!! ON YOUR | | MESSAGE BASE DATAFILES. Oh, it's perfectly safe, but it really | | throws a monkey wrench in the ol' transmission. | | None of that here. I have a 1.05 gig drive on the PC machine, and a | 1.8 gig drive on the BBS machine with no disk compression necessary. +------------------------------- Sheesh. Must be nice to be **RICH**. <g> +------------------------------- | TT| Run a good-sized disk cache during tossing. Turn on the cache's | | delayed-writes option. Turn on the "RETURN PROMPT FAST" option. | | How do you turn on the RETURN PROMPT FAST option? Would you share | your command line for HYPERDKX even though you don't use it? BTW, the | version of HYPERDKX I have is dated 8-24-93. Does anybody know if | that's the latest? +------------------------------- Mac, I goofed. The "RETURN PROMPT FAST" option is a SMARTDRV.EXE command line parameter, not a Hyperdisk option. Also, in reviewing the SPEEDKIT.TXT file that comes in Hyperware's archive of Hyperdisk, I found the following command line options that provided some speed increases when I was running HYPERDKX.EXE... --- (from the HyperDisk manual) VI - QEMM Stealth SUPPORT VI or VI:+ Enables virtual interrupts; VI:- disables virtual interrupts. Default is enabled. EMS FAR CALL FOR DESQVIEW UI or UI:+ forces EMS far call to use interrupt 67h, which works better when using DesqView with your system. To restore the original far call method, specify UI:- Default is disabled. --- The latest version of HyperWare's SPEEDKIT is 4.65. Call their support BBS at 415-882-1735 to pick it up. +------------------------------- | TT|Just as an FYI, my system is very similar to yours: 386DX/33 | |I get around 400 messages per minute in the pretoss, and about 280 | |in the final toss. | | I have a 486/33 doing this and, as I said, I'm only getting about | 181/min. However that is such a drastic increase from the 60/min I | was getting that I'm relatively satisfied with it. +------------------------------- Don't give up yet, Mac! You should be able to get 450+/min in the final toss with that processor, unless you've got some slow turkey hard drives. Keep working... <g> +------------------------------- |The WCRENUMX I need to add to an event since some of the numbers are |approaching the limit. Don't you think once a week ought to get it? +------------------------------- Well, there _is_ no limit to how high a message number can be. But you may confuse your callers when they read message #334,232,333. I run WCRENUMX nightly, just to prevent this kind of confusion. Telegard, WWIV, and PCBoard BBS' automatically renumber their message bases when a message is deleted, but WildCat! doesn't. And I really, really, really wish it would - because it looks so much neater. There ya go, Mac. Hope I answered all your questions! Timothy Trace (your Favorite SYSOP!) NeverLand 314/ 579-9369 ... My wallet's cache is disabled. * MSI Off-Line Express * --- WM v3.10/93-0878 * Origin: *NEVERLAND* v.32b, v.42b, 2.5gig, 24hours daily (1:100/440) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 286 To: ALL Date: 04/03/94 7:17p Subj: INBOUND BAD ECHOMAIL AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Areafix v1.30, (C) 1988-92 by Greg Dawson & George Peace (1:270/101) Originally Written by Greg Dawson. Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Netmail'... Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Badecho'... Reading 'C:\Rbbs\Areas.Bbs'... Address 239/1004 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 2440/5 not authorized to create area 'DAIRY_FARM' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'BITCH' Address 3641/1 not authorized to create area 'ISDN' Address 2623/520 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'LOST' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'MATRIX' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'LOST' Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'VIRGINIA_BBS' Address 229/510 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 374/1 not authorized to create area 'MEDIEVAL' Address 3410/1 not authorized to create area 'RECTRVMK' Address 284/1 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 3807/104 not authorized to create area '3807STAT' Address 202/401 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Processing new EchoMail areas... Creating new area 'CAROLINA_GEN' from 1:396/1 Creating new area 'DOMINO' from 1:396/1 Creating new area 'EMBEDDED' from 1:396/1 Creating new area 'HYPERWARE' from 1:396/1 Creating new area 'NIGHT_SHIFT' from 1:396/1 Creating new area 'Z1_POLITICAL' from 1:396/1 --- Harvey's Robot v4.53 * Origin: Planet Systems (1:3615/50.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIMOTHY TRACE Number: 287 To: DEAN LAKE Date: 04/02/94 7:45a Subj: WildMail! 3.1 stuff... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Joe also recommends no more than 40 message data file groups in any -> one subdirectory. Wildmail will lose time wading through that many -> files to find the right message datafile group. !!! Tim --- WM v3.10/93-0878 * Origin: *NEVERLAND* v.32b, v.42b, 2.5gig, 24hours daily (1:100/440) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALLEN CRAVENER Number: 288 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 4:14p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do -> > want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering th -> > K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no -> -> Fine. Anyone else feel this way? Gheese, you try to help out and s They fit right into my system just fine. If I didn't want them I would just send them where all the other conferences go that I don't want. Allen --- WM v3.10/93-0158 * Origin: The Glass Menagerie II (610) 376-1819 (1:2607/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY GREEN Number: 289 To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 04/03/94 8:26p Subj: Dongle and OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (02 Apr 94) Wallace Sheldon wrote to Johnny Green... WS> Johnny, I'm not suggesting that you would tell people something that WS> is fiction, that wasn't the intent of the full message. I understand, I am sorry, I did not intend to sound aggressive. I have spoken to this person PERSONALLY on two seperate occasions, and tried again to reach him Friday to no avail. I will try again Monday and attempt to get him to post here. The two times I have spoken to him, he has stated that he has had success with both OS/2 ver 2.0 and 2.1. Since I have no experience with OS/2, I am inadequate to relay this info with much detail. This is my fault, and I will try to remedy that. WS> I'm very happy to WS> hear that the Dongle manufacturer is working on the problem, and, yes, WS> it is frustrating when we hear reports that it is SUPPOSED to work on WS> OS/2 and one then spends hours and $$'s trying to make it work only to WS> find out from those that REALY know OS/2 that it JUST WON'T WORK and WS> we've wasted are time and money. I understand your frustration, and I too would be unhappy to put forth this type of effort and have no luck. I hope that between this guy I speak of and the folks at Aztek, that we will be able to provide answers for all who wish to run OS/2. Thanks, and sorry for the misconception,.... Johnny Green ... Planet Systems / Skylink (615) 623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Planet Systems / Skylink 615-623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY GREEN Number: 290 To: RUSSELL NABER Date: 04/03/94 8:34p Subj: Planet Connect Reciever Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (02 Apr 94) Russell Naber wrote to John Campbell... RN> I too have experienced errors. I am on my third receiver, (PC customer RN> service RN> on this subject is great.) RN> RN> Keeps the reciever cooler, now for the power supply temps, I am RN> crossing my fingers on this one.<g> Hang in there guys, and gals, we are working with IDC closely to solve this problem, and hope to have all of this nailed down shortly. Meanwhile, this is something that seems to provide better service from heat that originates from power supply problems. Let us know how we can help all, this are things we need to know about. Johnny Green. ... Planet Systems / Skylink (615) 623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Planet Systems / Skylink 615-623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THEODORE POLCZYNSKI Number: 291 To: ALL Date: 04/03/94 7:54p Subj: Setup Suggestion Wanted Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Well the snow is GONE!!! The ground is UNFROZEN!!! SPRING IS HERE!!! So I need some input on adding Planet Connect. ......................................................................... I have a 286 for my BBS with Lantastic on FidoNet (FrontDoor & Maximus) I also have a 386DX on Lantastic for me & the kids homework (Ha Ha) (more like games) What type of CPU, speed, RAM, Comport, HD should I get for the computer that will handle the downfeed from Planet Connect? Any hints on where to buy it from? This will also have a Lantastic card. Any hints on how I should setup Lantastic? Oh it's V4, should I upgrade for this setup. Thanks Ted --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Cruisin Milwaukee WI in my 50 Chevy PU & 60 MET (1:154/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 292 To: SID BALCOM Date: 04/03/94 2:01p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> It sort of looks to me as if Planet Connect could also have t -> backbone - in addition to the various other networks they carry. -> A collection of echoes that are available only via the satell It is possible. They already have several FDN's that are satellite only. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 293 To: MARK MALACARNE Date: 04/03/94 2:29p Subj: Ok my turn to test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I just want to make sure that messages are going out <G>.. -> If ya see this please post back <G>.. I would have replied, but since I did not see the message, I could not reply to that which I did not see on April 3rd. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN CAMPBELL Number: 294 To: RUSSELL NABER Date: 04/03/94 7:24p Subj: Planet Connect Reciever Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I too have experienced errors. I am on my third receiver, (PC -> customer service on this subject is great.) -> -> You should see my solution. I took a 2 inch AC boxer fan and stuffed -> into a old bicycle water bottle on one end and pointed the smaller -> into the reciever's grill vents to keep air flow across it!! -> -> Keeps the reciever cooler, now for the power supply temps, I am -> crossing my fingers on this one.<g> The power supply is another story...... It gets hot, and even though it looks like it has vents... It is a sealed unit... I am not sure how to go about cooling it... Actually my power supply stays cooler than the reciever ever did, so I am not really worried about that by comparision... Your cooling solution for the reciever is quiet ingenious... Will have to look into some kind of ducting here... Great idea.. --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff276/b] * Origin: Sparkies Machine BBS (703) 266-4299 (1:2602/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN CAMPBELL Number: 295 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/03/94 7:29p Subj: Miscellaneous Information Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, I am interested in 3 basic topics.... They are: 1.) What is the status of ILINK? are we going to be carrying it, and if so, what will the packets be in... 2.) Noticed a new ACONFIG.SKY to come down with ILINK listed... Set it up to recive ILINK when it is available, and then I see another still yet another new ACONFIG.SKY, and the only other difference is that this one has a lower case "f" following the ILINK. Which ACONFIG.SKY is correct.. With or Without the "f". 3.) What is the status on getting a door for BBS's that carry the weather to display the weather to our users... This information would be greatly appreaciated, especially since we now have to pay for the weather that is coming out to us. Thanks inadvance for your responses... John Campbell --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff276/b] * Origin: Sparkies Machine BBS (703) 266-4299 (1:2602/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS GUERTIN Number: 296 To: ALL Date: 04/03/94 3:27p Subj: AD-* File Echoes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No What are the AD-* file echoes? They aren't in the FILEBONE.NA, so does anybody have a FILEBONE.NA-style listing of these areas so I can look them over? Thanx. --- DLG Pro v1.0/PDQMail v2.53 * Origin: Fat Agnus - A Quality System, Planet Connected (1:225/330) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DALE WOOD Number: 297 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 04/03/94 6:06p Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to Dale Wood <04/01/94> Mac Bryant wrote: MB> Hello again, Dale! MB> DW|Here's my STARTNET.BAT. MB> DW|Right now I fire it up manually when I need to move mail from the PC MB> |workstation to the BBS machine. I like your idea about moving all mail MB> |operations onto the workstation. Believe I'll give that a try when I MB> |reconfigure my system to running each node from a workstation. MB> Works for me. What can I say. <g> I don't have the luxury of running MB> anything manually since I'm gone when all of this is taking place. <g> I wish I could be gone while this was taking place. I have to make it happen "by hand" everyday. No days off for me for awhile. MB> DW|I've made no modifications to this other then REMing out the LOADHI MB> |statements since I'm running it from DOS. Don't really have much of a MB> |clue as to whether or not it might be correct as this is what was MB> |configured for me by the software setup routine. MB> Yes, nothing there non-standard. Why not load high - either with QEMM MB> or DOS? Sure did improve my performance here. I run it manually from DOS with nothing else running, so it doesn't seem to mind not being loaded high. MB> Good luck with it. Thanks * WCE 1.5/2064 * Oceanside, where the rip rap meets the riff raff --- WM v3.10/92-0250 * Origin: Dragnet BBS Oceanside,CA. 619-940-1985 (1:202/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ART MACK Number: 298 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/03/94 9:13a Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! In a message to Bill Roper <03/31/94> John Lyon wrote: JL> -> JL> -> Have heard rumors that ALLFIX is going to be compatible with JL> -> Wildcat, too.... JL> -> JL> -> cheers... JL> I would give $100 for that!!! I just dumped WCFF for an JL> ALLFIX/WCFILE combo. The WCFILE side is a pain to set up. Any reason John? I have had a few hangups with it and you cant areafix it but other than that? * WCE 1.5/2087 * NFE Multiline 25 Gigs nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653 --- WM v3.10/92-0555 * Origin: NFE BBS Lafayette IN, 317-447-9653 nfe.com (1:201/70.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ART MACK Number: 299 To: MARK MALACARNE Date: 04/03/94 4:26p Subj: Ok my turn to test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mark! In a message to All <04/02/94> Mark Malacarne wrote: MM> Ok sorry for this BUT MM> I just want to make sure that messages are going out <G>.. MM> If ya see this please post back <G>.. I know whats its like but yes your messages are getting out. Just got a satellite eh? Art.Mack@NFE.COM * WCE 1.5/2087 * NFE Multiline 25 Gigs nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653 --- WM v3.10/92-0555 * Origin: NFE BBS Lafayette IN, 317-447-9653 nfe.com (1:201/70.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ART MACK Number: 300 To: JOE LYDA Date: 04/03/94 4:28p Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Joe! In a message to John Lyon <04/02/94> Joe Lyda wrote: JL> Hello John! JL> In a message to Richard Wallen <03/31/94> John Lyon wrote: JL> John yesterday a file came in the pcutils area called JL> MAKEWCFF.ZIP which automates Wcff very nicely, also one called What does MAKEWCFF do Joe, is it a configuration program? WCFF 3.55 seems a little more robust than 3.52. Art * WCE 1.5/2087 * NFE Multiline 25 Gigs nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653 --- WM v3.10/92-0555 * Origin: NFE BBS Lafayette IN, 317-447-9653 nfe.com (1:201/70.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 301 To: TIM HELTON Date: 04/03/94 4:56p Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: 04/05/94 6:42p Private: No -> You want to be moderated? I can be the biggest S.O.B. moderator you' -> ever seen if that's what you want. That is quite apparent. -jim- --- WM v3.10/93-1181 * Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 302 To: ART MACK Date: 04/03/94 10:51p Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Art Mack wrote in a message to Tim Helton: AM> Hello Tim! AM> In a message to Kim Bergman <03/30/94> Tim Helton wrote: TH> 99% of the participants of this echo are fluent in normal FidoNet TH> policy... Here recently, the other 1% has dominated the discussions. TH> My thanks to the 99%. The other 1% can look forward to feed cuts. AM> Tim I am curiuos, how can you cut a satellite feed? Are you AM> working for Planet Connect? Pretty simple really......think about it. greg.shaffer@ascicorp.com ... I see your GAU-8A and raise you two SAMs! --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -=[ROUTE 66 BBS]=- 5.8 Gigs of Fun (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 303 To: FRED WHITTOM Date: 04/03/94 10:55p Subj: Second Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Fred Whittom wrote in a message to All: FW> Has anyone tried to use 2 different hard drives (C&D) for FW> receiving files and messages. I want to use drive C for all FW> the nets and drive D for all the files. I have tried just FW> about everything and nothing seems to work. Suffice to say that the way the PC software works what you want to do is not only unlikely but -absolutely- impossible. greg.shaffer@ascicorp.com ... Diversity is God's way of amusing himself. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -=[ROUTE 66 BBS]=- 5.8 Gigs of Fun (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN DODSON Number: 304 To: JOHNNY GREEN Date: 04/02/94 8:16a Subj: Internet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JG> NOT CORRECT..!! Planet Connect IS planning to accept replies for JG> Usenet at some point. There is no time table at this point. The JG> priorty here is to get data TO you, and then to recieve it back. JG> There are numerous problems that will have to be overcame, such JG> as hardware, software setup, methodology, etc, etc,. When we feel JG> as though we have all of this worked out, THEN we will look at JG> handling these returns. JG> This has been a constant misconception, so I wanted to clarify these JG> points so that everyone understands. Ok Johnny, whatever... I was just repeating what Boyd had told me in a phone conversation. Don;t suppose you would have any timetable for this? --- QScan v1.062b * Origin: * La Cantina BBS * El Paso 915-532-0332 v.32bis/DS 4G (1:381/123) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 305 To: FRED WHITTOM Date: 04/03/94 12:26p Subj: Second Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Fred! In a message to All <03/31/94> Fred Whittom wrote: FW> Has anyone tried to use 2 different hard drives (C&D) for receiving FW> files and messages. I want to use drive C for all the nets and drive D FW> for all the files. I have tried just about everything and nothing seems FW> to work. Fred all drive letters have to be the same in the rulebase due to the way the software handles the file naming. The file comes in, lets asume on C: drive under a funky name in the root directory, and if it is error free and permitted to be on your system it is renamed to the proper name and directory directly to the FAT Table and is never moved from where it is received by PC Software. To recieve it on C: drive and move it to D: drive would cause some bigtime programing problems. If a file was 1.4 meg in size and it had to be copied from drive to drive then deleted from first drive would take time which the sending unit would not have any way to tell how fast your drive(S) are thus causing wasted transmission time. The way it is now the software and timing are in sink with the sending unit as it takes only so long on a 286/12 and a 120ms hd to rename the file and start a new one. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Me, indecisive? I don't think I am, do you? --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 306 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 04/03/94 9:20p Subj: Re: Lantastic Ai Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! In a message to Jim Watson <04/02/94> John Hrusovszky wrote: JH> DO>> Some other things that you need to check that might help. JH> DO>> If you don't have a 16550, get one. It won't work without JH> DO>> it under DV or a network. JH> JW> It will under Novell... JH> It also will under Lantastic/AI. I don't have a 16550 in my satellite JH> machine, yett don't have any trouble with it. It works under Novel Lite without a 16550. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Not a computer nerd; merely a techno-weenie. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 307 To: MARK MALACARNE Date: 04/03/94 9:23p Subj: Ok my turn to test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mark! In a message to All <04/02/94> Mark Malacarne wrote: MM> Ok sorry for this BUT MM> I just want to make sure that messages are going out <G>.. MM> If ya see this please post back <G>.. Made it to Tennessee Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Now where did I put that fire extinguisher? --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 308 To: GENE BALMAIN Date: 04/03/94 4:06a Subj: SERVICES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Gene wrote to John: > As far as "Rights" go... I dont think you have a "Right" to > partisipate in this echo. You dont have a PC Dish... nor are you > thinking about purchacing one.. Your presence here is to do nothing > but disrupt Planet Connect and its Business Dealings! Actually this echo is for people *considering* obtaining a Planet Connect feed and those who, not having such a feed, have questions about the service. Those of us who are already clients are served by the PCSITES echo. Mr. De Luc has every right to be here, whether he is a current client or not, to monitor what it is all about and hopefully one day join the "blessed." More than that, he does provide a very important service to many of us by managing the Genealogy file distribution, and for my money, every file distribution coordinator should be welcomed here with open arms. If some are a might "disruptive" then we satisfied clients should try to bring them into the fold, not tell them to bugger off. My 25 cents. .glenn. --- GE386 1.02 * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BARRY HERBERT Number: 309 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/29/94 3:06p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In article 'ky_da da da', Mark Parkman(1:170/351) wrote: MP> > and down the other. I have been very patient and quite while MP> > seeing what is going on in this area. It is going to the MP> > dogs. Hello, is there a moderator in here???? Anyone want to MP> > be the moderator??? I guess this is the straw that broke the MP> > camels back. You guys want to play hard ball? Fine. I'm all MP> > ready to take my first swing. I am no public relations man. MP> > Do you think this is fun sitting here at 2:00 am in the MP> > morning, reading stuff that does not make sense and then MP> > working all day at an office taking tech calls and making MP> > sure everything is going good. Then, for toppers, coming back MP> > here at 7:00 pm and working till 1 or 2 am again so that you MP> > get your mail and files. Anybody want a job? MP> > MP> > P.S. Have a nice day! MP> > MP> > ...Boyd MP> Don't let that stuff get to you Boyd. You're doing a fine job and everyone on here knows it and has said so. His is only one opinion and his poor taste and lack of tact should be ignored. __ __///Barry Herbert,FidoNet InterNet MicroSoft EchoNet Rime UseNet \XX/Intelec AmigaNet NaNet RoseNet PlanetEarth --- EXCELSIOR! BBS v1.20; XMAIL! v1.70 * Origin: THE POWER HOUSE BBS Mara BC CND (604)838-7446 (1:353/380) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM HAAVISTO Number: 310 To: CHRIS GUERTIN Date: 04/03/94 2:53a Subj: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > There are over 5,000 Amiga-run BBSs in the current FidoNet NODELIST... WHAT? Your Nodelist must be very different than the one everyone else is running if this is true... >Tom< --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff238/x] * Origin: OnLine Now Thunder Bay ON, Canada (807)-345-1531 (1:229/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 311 To: FRED WHITTOM Date: 04/03/94 7:41p Subj: Re: Second Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >Has anyone tried to use 2 different hard drives (C&D) for receiving >files and messages. I want to use drive C for all the nets and drive D >for all the files. I have tried just about everything and nothing seems >to work. >Fred Fred, Below is an excerpt from the SET-INI.DOC file.. Dave P. SKYDRIVE=C: This the drive ID to where the holding file will be located. This is mandatory. Since files are moved rather than copied this letter will corrispond where you have your incoming files being saved to. ALL files being received must go to the same drive ID. You can not have half the files going to your C: drive and the other half going to your D: drive. It has to be one or the other. Value range : C to Z. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 312 To: JOHN KAUFMAN Date: 04/03/94 7:44p Subj: Re: TEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >Hi - I hate to do this, but can someone please reply to this to confirm my >outbounds. Thanks. >┌──────────────┬─────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ >│ John Kaufman │ Fidonet: 1:104/675 │""""│ │ >│ OFFWoRLD BBS │ Internet: john.kaufman@f675.n104.z1.fidonet.org │ >│ 303-343-6978 │ ITCnet: 85:824/116 [( Oo )] │ >└──────────────┴─────────────────────────────-oOO──(__)──OOo─────┘ >--- GEcho/Synchronet > * Origin: OFFWoRLD (303)343·0691/0693/6978 (1:104/675) John, Getting here in downtown Dover, DE... Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 313 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 04/03/94 7:45p Subj: Re: Lantastic Ai Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >DO>> Some other things that you need to check that might help. >DO>> If you don't have a 16550, get one. It won't work without >DO>> it under DV or a network. > JW> It will under Novell... >It also will under Lantastic/AI. I don't have a 16550 in my satellite >machine, yett don't have any trouble with it. John, I too was able to get it working fine using Little Big Lan... it was just when I hit the PC node hard from another node.. ie.. processing bundles, etc.. I noticed on the PC node that it would begin to show errors on the current file being received... This of course was resolved by adding a 16550.. Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 314 To: JOHN CAMPBELL Date: 04/03/94 7:49p Subj: Re: Planet Connect Reciev Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >DP> Which receiver do you have? I have the little one >DP> that goes with the 3ft KU band dish.. and it doesn't >DP> get hot at all. Now the power supply gets a quite >DP> warm, but never hot.. >Dave, > I run the KU with the 2 foot dish >John John, I stand corrected, I too have the 2ft dish.. After my previous post, I taped a thermometer to the top of it and it reads about 98 degrees. Not sure if that bad or good.. 8-) Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN FLORY Number: 315 To: ART MACK Date: 04/03/94 6:05a Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No AM> Tim I am curiuos, how can you cut a satellite feed? Are AM> you working for Planet Connect? You just touched upon something that has alot of moderators, NC's, RC's, etc whirling around in circles. There is no way (IMHO) under the current scheme to "cut someone's feed". The only thing that can be done is to sever the return link for an echo, which is going to increase Boyd and company's work load. There is also no way to ensure that someone NOT a valid Node from receiving the echo's and even possibly setting up a return link. I do not know how close PC checks to see that their customers are valid members of certain Net's. I know that some of the stuff can't be used without special software (RIME??), but for the most part, if you can setup a packer/tosser and you have the $$$$ you immediately become a FidoNet Node without all of the stuff involved, with the potential of creating havoc on the backbone. Later Ken --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: VETLink #13 Las Cruces NM (505)523-2811 (1:305/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SHAWN RATNER Number: 316 To: ALL Date: 04/03/94 5:03p Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To anyone who has 7th Guest, I have had it for a few days, solved 3 puzzles. But there are 3 puzzles I can't solve. I have tried for hours but had no luck. 1. In the game Room, how do you position the queens so that they will not be in check? 2. In the bed room how do you solvethe puzzle with the 8 Bishops? 3. In the kitchen what is the sentence that you are sopposed to spell? with the can with letters on them? I know if you go to the library 3 time it will be solved, but I would really want to know how to solve these 3 puzzles. Thank you for your help! --- WM v3.10/92-0433 * Origin: Distant Mirror BBS! Clarksville,TN 615-648-1782 (1:3621/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 317 To: DEAN LAKE Date: 04/03/94 8:55a Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi, Dean! DL|Yep, thats it. SortPKT is an "extra" utility given out with |WildMail. The docs even say that it will only work on your |pretossed packets. Won't do a thing for downlinks, and that is |its major shortcoming. Thanks, it seems to be working fine. Yesterday's batch (Saturday) was a croaker, and it seemed to handle it fine. DL|Since you don't pass mail on, the above is not as efficient as it |could be. You are actually processing the mail twice. Once into |the pretoss area, sorting it, then processing again into your |message base. The total time may still be less than it used to |be, since you are actually handling a bunch of messages 3 times |faster. I think it is and will stay with it for the time being. Is there no way around doing it this way (other than the old singular without PRETOSS)? DL|Look for a Netmail in your incoming, will ship you the short text |file. Thanks. I got it. The program when run immediately locked up my system. I don't know if it's something in my settings or if it does indeed not like DV, but it did nevertheless. I will experiment with it more when time permits. Thanks for your continuing help. Hopefully WM4 will correct some of these problems. .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * I have bursts of being a lady; it doesn't last. --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 * (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 318 To: ALL Date: 04/03/94 11:46p Subj: UPLD.LST Error Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Recently I have begun to get an A,R,I,F error on my network when UPLD.LST is coming in. Has anyone else had this problem? If so, what did you do to correct it? I can lose a half day of transmissions when this happens? Nothing seems to work except Abort and start PCSKY again. Thanks, .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * Natchez - Where the Old South Still Lives & Lives & Liv --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 * (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 319 To: JOE LYDA Date: 04/04/94 12:11a Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hello John! -> -> In a message to Richard Wallen <03/31/94> John Lyon wrote: -> -> -> JL> Raid works fine with WCFF....it's WCFF that sucks. -> -> John yesterday a file came in the pcutils area called -> MAKEWCFF.ZIP which automates Wcff very nicely, also one called -> TICMOVE.ZIP simply moves .tic's and companion files to be -> processed only if the pair are in the same directory to be moved. -> -> Give them a shot and let me know what you think of them. I wrote -> them to overcome WCFF's short coming and they work well for me. I did take a quick look at them yesterday Joe, I haven't had time to really take a good look yet. I'm using TICIT to move the files which has worked well these past few months. I *LOVE* Allfix, it's one hellava File Processor! The bad part is writing the batch file for 400 file areas for WCfile to handle the descriptions. I have contacted Allfix's author regarding a WC version, still waiting on an answer. MAKEWCFF may be an easier alternative for most......I'll let ya know...Thanks! --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: T.O.L. * 15 Gigs * InterNet * (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEBASTIAN ACOSTA Number: 320 To: TIM HELTON Date: 04/05/94 7:21a Subj: phone and dish? Refer: NONE Read: 04/05/94 6:44p Private: No -> Did you get that dish fixed? I've tried to call you 3 different TH> I'm feedhornless right now... I'm getting all the mail from a TH> local node using ma bell. Everything else is working, though. I don't think so Tim, you are getting the mail from PC thru my node in Miami :-) * MKRead v1.04 * Be mischievous and creative, if they fit you. --- GEcho 1.02+/RA2.01+ * Origin: South Florida's Planet Connect Link 305-378-2571 (1:135/94) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM TRAHAN Number: 321 To: TIM HELTON Date: 04/04/94 9:28a Subj: Who Made You God? Refer: NONE Read: 04/05/94 6:46p Private: No Just who exactly made you moderator? It is apparent to me that you have somewhat of an attitude problem yourself! Even if you are moderator (Of which you have been doing a terrible job) to come back after so long and just threaten everybody is way uncool. I myself have not been taking part of any negative posts, but to see someone just come out of the blue and start laying threats to everyone is not what I like to see. Tim Trahan Sysop - The Motherlode BBS --- QScan v1.062b * Origin: -= The Motherlode BBS =- (601) 332-4827 - 7 Nodes, RngDwn (1:3632/61) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE VOLD Number: 322 To: ROY MUMAW Date: 03/31/94 10:38a Subj: Re: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Roy said the following to Steve Vold about Re: Services RM> In a message to Jason Baginski <03-25-94 09:31> Steve Vold wrote: RM> How about "community service" and a realization that not everything RM> has to be "me-first?" Why donate to charity ("unless its like RM> [you're] rich and have nothing better to do with your life :)")? I never said it was/is a terible thing to run a free board, I did it for over a year before getting into it commercially. Going back to how this all started, there were a few people out there saying that all bbs services should be free. Or at least that was the impression they were giving. I was simply stating that not everything in life is *FREE* and shouldn't be. RM> Why carry echos like M_P_D or ABLED or SPINAL_INJURY or join RM> ADANet(tm), as many of the ones most interested are least able to pay? We run a pay board, with a public service area, were we have three things so far, Political Form (send/recieve messages to political parties/people) Missing Children Data base, and Online Jobs. These services are *free* and we will be expanding that section to include some disability needs as well. RM> running my free board as a service to the community. I don't measure RM> success by quantity of callers, but by the quality of enjoyment of RM> those who do call. Matter of fact, that yardstick would also work on RM> pay boards, too <grin>. Nor do we, (by the call) ... I would rather see less calls with real productivity than haveing tons of calls with little productivity. There are alot of options out there, and I don't look at a BBS service as a "fast buck" thing ... It might make some money, but hey, if people are all happy with the service. Whats the problem? Steve --- Pony Express/RA 2.01Pro/FE 1.4+ * Origin: The Pony Express BBS - (403) 783 - 8795 (1:134/5010) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 323 To: ART MACK Date: 04/04/94 12:41p Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hello John! -> -> In a message to Bill Roper <03/31/94> John Lyon wrote: -> -> JL> -> -> JL> -> Have heard rumors that ALLFIX is going to be compatible with -> JL> -> Wildcat, too.... -> JL> -> -> JL> -> cheers... -> -> JL> I would give $100 for that!!! I just dumped WCFF for an -> JL> ALLFIX/WCFILE combo. The WCFILE side is a pain to set up. -> -> -> -> -> Any reason John? I have had a few hangups with it and you cant areafi -> but other than that? No Problem with Allfix at all Art! It's the batch file to check for the files.bbs in each subdir and running Wcfile on each. With 400 file areas it's very time consumming to write. I would sure like to see someone write something to automate this! --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: T.O.L. * 15 Gigs * InterNet * (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL CLARK Number: 324 To: ART MACK Date: 04/03/94 7:46p Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Apr 02 01:30>, Art Mack of 1:201/70 writes: TH> 99% of the participants of this echo are fluent in normal FidoNet TH> policy... Here recently, the other 1% has dominated the discussions. TH> My thanks to the 99%. The other 1% can look forward to feed cuts. AM> Tim I am curiuos, how can you cut a satellite feed? Are you working for AM> Planet Connect? Well, I'm obviously not Tim, but the feed cut is very easy to implement. Since the satellite traffic is broadcast much like radio or TV, the feed cut does not affect what the cut node receives from Planet Connect, but affects any uplinked traffic from that node to 1:3615/50. Once a node is removed from Boyd's echo control file for PLANET_CONNECT, any traffic the "unlinked" node sends to 1:3615/50 simply goes to the bit bucket there and is not sent out over the satellite. Planet Systems does honor requests from moderators for "feed cuts". :-) Bill --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: QwikCom Remote * St Charles MO (1:100/602.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE PATTERSON Number: 325 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/03/94 9:41a Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT > want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering these > K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na > or fidonet.no, they Boyd, speaking for myself and all the people/hubs/downlinks in our net PLEASE just ignore this "gentelman" if he is unable to figure out how to configure his system to drop unwanted echos/files in the bit buckett then perhaps he should seek help/advise or just drop PC all together. We are very pleased with the service and effort you and all the people at PC are providing keep up the good work and don't let the malcontents get to you. :{) --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: EVERGREEN ONE, Cashmere Wa. ZyXEL E+ 19.2 (509) 782-4259 (1:344/91) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 326 To: ALL Date: 04/04/94 9:20p Subj: INBOUND BAD ECHOMAIL AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Areafix v1.30, (C) 1988-92 by Greg Dawson & George Peace (1:270/101) Originally Written by Greg Dawson. Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Netmail'... Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Badecho'... Reading 'C:\Rbbs\Areas.Bbs'... 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Boyd indicated that they TH>were working on setting up TH>address for us so theat this would be possible. JD> Hi Thomas, I talked sometime ago with Boyd about this and he said that JD> they have decided not to provide a return... that it would be an JD> administrative nightmare. He also said they were looking for a sevice JD> provider to recommend. I would recommend Holonet. I subscribed to them a few weeks ago, and when I told them I was on PC, they said that alot of sysops were using thier services. Of course, I've only been with them for a short time, some of the other sysops could enlighten PC better than I. But it was easy to apply, you can get your own address (os2zone.com), runs $6 a month. Cheers and thanks for the reply, Thomas --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The_OS/2_Zone_Lexington,Ky. (606) 887-2277 (1:2370/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 328 To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 04/04/94 5:06p Subj: Planet Connect Reciev Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dave! Sunday April 03 1994 19:49, Dave Petrucci wrote to John Campbell: >> I run the KU with the 2 foot dish >> John DP> DP> John, DP> I stand corrected, I too have the 2ft dish.. DP> After my previous post, I taped a thermometer DP> to the top of it and it reads about 98 degrees. DP> Not sure if that bad or good.. 8-) DP> Dave P. ,,, (o o) -+--ooO-(_)-Ooo-+-- Hmmm! 98 Degrees is normal for a Human.. did you also Tape your Thumb to the Thermometer? <grin> if Not, was the reading in Full Sun, or in the Shade? Regards, George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb --- Alexi/Mail 2.00a6 (#7) * Origin: Answers: Short $1, Correct $25, Dumb looks are Free (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 329 To: SEBASTIAN ACOSTA Date: 04/05/94 7:01p Subj: phone and dish? Refer: 320 Read: NO Private: No -> I don't think so Tim, you are getting the mail from PC thru my node -> in Miami :-). I'll be darned... The only thing I've been pulling from the sky is sun rays. I love it down here |). tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE PATTERSON Number: 330 To: TIM BELLAART Date: 03/07/94 6:41a Subj: Test Message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TB> Manual? Manual? You got a manual? Hummm, other than a TB> few pages for the C TB> Band receiver (all the equipment I ordered) and a 3.5" Tim, I was being nice, least trying to. :{) Thanks for the responce at least I know I am making the trip. :{) Jp --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: EVERGREEN ONE, Cashmere Wa. ZyXEL E+ 19.2 (509) 782-4259 (1:344/91) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE PATTERSON Number: 331 To: PAUL CORMIER Date: 03/07/94 11:49a Subj: Weather Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No PC> Now I'm wondering if there's a door that can let a user view the weather PC> files online, instead of having to download them everyday. Paul, if you get an answer to this how about forwarding it to me just in case I miss it. thanks.... Jp --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: EVERGREEN ONE, Cashmere Wa. ZyXEL E+ 19.2 (509) 782-4259 (1:344/91) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE PATTERSON Number: 332 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/14/94 6:18a Subj: TVLIST* And Weather* Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd, if your going to make the subject files an added cost item how about moving them to the end of the download stream say after the FidoNet but befor the USENET and making two more error levels to be inserted after the TVList or after the Weather This way those wishing to receive the FidoNet and TVList and/or weather could use the approprieate error level. I for one would not mind saving the time Required to DL these files. :{) Especialy if I am going to have to pay for them. eg: FidoNet (701=on), TVList (702=on), Weather (703=on), UseNet (700=on). each error level would get everything to the left of it. Another thought. Why not put together three different packages. eg: 1) FIDONET cost 1 2) FIDONET, TVList, Weather, USAToday. cost 2 3) Complete package cost 3 Again, these could be controlled by the user thru the use of error levels. And, if your going to scramble the TVList, Weather, USATody and USENet there'd be no reason for the non subscribers to continue to receive them. Just my thoughts. :{) BTW The second option, three packages, would make management and accounting a heck of a lot easier. :{) - Jp - --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: EVERGREEN ONE, Cashmere Wa. ZyXEL E+ 19.2 (509) 782-4259 (1:344/91) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE PATTERSON Number: 333 To: ANYONE Date: 03/14/94 7:50p Subj: OS2 Vs the Dongle Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Has anyone figured out how to resolve the dongle problem with OS2? If so would you please share this with us. Thanks....... Really do need to run a multi-tasker if they are going to make the mail continious feed. Thanks in advance for any help...... -Jp- --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: EVERGREEN ONE, Cashmere Wa. ZyXEL E+ 19.2 (509) 782-4259 (1:344/91) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS GUERTIN Number: 334 To: JOHN LE DUC Date: 04/04/94 12:30p Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Check out what John Le Duc wrote on 02 Apr 94 12:38:58: JLD> Chris Guertin wrote in a message to Barry Herbert: CG> There are over 5,000 Amiga-run BBSs in the current FidoNet CG> NODELIST... JLD> First, I'm not arguing your point, nor making a comment re: Amiga. JLD> I am simply curious as to how you extracted the info from the JLD> nodelist? Is there a flag for Amiga now? If so, I'll put it up JLD> for the two Amigas in our net. I don't know if there is any way to tell from the Nodelist. That figure was told to me by somebody else, a person who keeps the "International Amiga BBS List". Someone told me 3000 several years ago, so I expect this new figure is acccurate given the growth of Fido. For example, the "AMIGA" echomail area has been one of the highest volume backbone echoes for a long time. Amigas are definitely outnumbered by IBMs and compatibles, but Amiga users, on average, are more "power-user" oriented. Great numbers of IBM users are just "users" (no insult meant to IBM users, hell, I use em all day at work) who bought an IBM since they thought that was only kind of computer there is. The point is that there is a market for an Amiga (also Mac, OS/2 native etc) version of the Planet Connect software. Using an IBM is an import peripheral is a pain in the butt, and slows things down for a user of another platform. Especially a user of the oldest pre-emptive multitasking platform. (appologies to ALL if I sound like I'm preaching, AGAIN ;) --- DLG Pro v1.0/PDQMail v2.53 * Origin: Fat Agnus - A Quality System, Planet Connected (1:225/330) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE HUSK Number: 335 To: CHUCK BRIDWELL Date: 04/04/94 11:21p Subj: Re: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >1:3615/50. Having received such a message from Boyd requested by the >moderator of the WHOLLY_BIBLE echo which started with a problem caller on >another bbs in our net, I speak from experience. :-) And Boyd didn't put If every hub would remove that conference from their system, the world would be a better place. The moderator is a real twit and not worth the time nor effort to deal with. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#0999) * Origin: * County Link BBS * 216-236-6126 * 7 Nodes * (1:157/576) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 336 To: KEN FLORY Date: 04/04/94 5:42p Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No <=> Ken Flory Was Heard Saying This To Art Mack: KF> AM> Tim I am curiuos, how can you cut a satellite feed? Are KF> AM> you working for Planet Connect? KF>You just touched upon something that has alot of moderators, KF>NC's, RC's, etc whirling around in circles. It's pretty simple actualy, when Boyd gets a request from a moderator to cut a link, first he cuts the return from that downlink in that echo, if the downlink continues to disrupt the echo by sending replys via an alternate link, Boyd then will cancel that downlinks contract. On the other hand, most moderators will ask a node to stop a thread first, then if they persist, they are usualy ask to leave the echo, then if they stay they are threatened with a link cut. You see "most" moderators will give an example of the rule broken, "most" moderators are fairly diplomatic, as their are a lot of moderators who frequent this echo, including myself. I think PC has a good way of handling this subject. Regards, Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 337 To: CHUCK BRIDWELL Date: 04/04/94 7:27p Subj: Re: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No AM>> Tim I am curiuos, how can you cut a satellite feed? CB> What they do is promise not to process any of your return mail CB> inbound to 1:3615/50. ALL areas? Or just the problem area(s)? How about those of us that are feeding others? If, for example, a user in my download gets excessively annoying, and he is to be cut off, as long as I oblige and cut him/her off from the offending echobase, that WILL leave my (and all my other downlinks') feeds intact, wouldn't it? --jah ... At least Gennifer got kissed! --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAUL STEWART Number: 338 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 04/03/94 12:52p Subj: Re: Bbs <-> Internet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To: Chuck Warren From: John Hrusovszky Subj: Re: Bbs <-> Internet -------------------------- JH> HOLONET can provide you with a host.domain for, I believe, $50 ( or JH> was it $75? -- have to check in BoardWatch). Holonet can also provide JH> you with a return feed for UseNet and Internet. ASA CompuHelp can also JH> provide you with a return feed, but I'm not sure about getting you a JH> host.domain. Anyone know how to do this in Canada....? Thanks, Paul ... Time on your hands? . . . get Windows. --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 * Origin: Download Dungeon SuperBBS (1:229/318) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK KRIEG Number: 339 To: JOHN KAUFMAN Date: 04/04/94 7:57a Subj: TEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JK>Hi - I hate to do this, but can someone please reply to this to confirm my >outbounds. Thanks. >****************************************************************** >* John Kaufman * Fidonet: 1:104/675 *""""* * >* OFFWoRLD BBS * Internet: john.kaufman@f675.n104.z1.fidonet.org * >* 303-343-6978 * ITCnet: 85:824/116 [( Oo )] * >*********************************************-oOO**(__)**OOo****** >--- GEcho/Synchronet > * Origin: OFFWoRLD (303)343*0691/0693/6978 (1:104/675) Got it brother! And looking good as usual! * SLMR 2.1a * Cool Baby BBS - "the board with a personality" --- * Origin: Cool Baby BBS * York, PA * 717-751-0855 * (1:270/612) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM SETTLE Number: 340 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/31/94 8:35a Subj: K12 and rest Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! I like the fact that all this K12 and extra echos are comming down the bird, I do hope you keep adding them to the list. If I dont want them I just set them to Pass threw (bit bucket). Personaly think your doing a great job and hope to see more in the future. One person bitching does not reflect the majority of those of us that know better and not say anything. So what there not in Fidonet.na , I vote to keep them and adding more NEW Echos if there as good cause. If these few cant set them as passthru then thats their problem. GO for it! Keep up the great work! Tim --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Wild West BBS Plainview, TX 806-296-6865 (1:3820/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 341 To: FRED WHITTOM Date: 04/04/94 6:40a Subj: Second Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Fred Whittom wrote in a message to All: FW> Has anyone tried to use 2 different hard drives (C&D) for FW> receiving files and messages. I want to use drive C for all FW> the nets and drive D for all the files. The software (PTTCMAIN) has a limitation or restriction; all files must go to the same drive. -=- Craig. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 342 To: ART MACK Date: 04/04/94 3:17p Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Art! In a message to Joe Lyda <04/03/94> Art Mack wrote: AM> Hello Joe! AM> In a message to John Lyon <04/02/94> Joe Lyda wrote: AM> JL> Hello John! AM> JL> In a message to Richard Wallen <03/31/94> John Lyon wrote: AM> JL> John yesterday a file came in the pcutils area called AM> JL> MAKEWCFF.ZIP which automates Wcff very nicely, also one called AM> What does MAKEWCFF do Joe, is it a configuration program? WCFF 3.55 seems AM> a little more robust than 3.52. Writes a wcff.cfg on the fly for the files that are to be processed, I haven't seen wcff 3.55 yet to check it out. I wrote makewcff to handle the problems of wcff 3.51 and it does a good job of it. Is wcff 3.55 coming down the pipe soon? Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Have you seen this Tagline? Call 1-800-TAG-THIS! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 343 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/04/94 3:21p Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! In a message to Joe Lyda <04/04/94> John Lyon wrote: JL> -> Hello John! JL> -> JL> -> In a message to Richard Wallen <03/31/94> John Lyon wrote: JL> -> JL> -> JL> -> JL> Raid works fine with WCFF....it's WCFF that sucks. JL> -> JL> -> John yesterday a file came in the pcutils area called JL> -> MAKEWCFF.ZIP which automates Wcff very nicely, also one called JL> -> TICMOVE.ZIP simply moves .tic's and companion files to be JL> -> processed only if the pair are in the same directory to be moved. JL> -> JL> -> Give them a shot and let me know what you think of them. I wrote JL> -> them to overcome WCFF's short coming and they work well for me. JL> I did take a quick look at them yesterday Joe, I haven't had time to JL> really take a good look yet. I'm using TICIT to move the files which has JL> worked well these past few months. I *LOVE* Allfix, it's one hellava JL> File Processor! The bad part is writing the batch file for 400 file JL> areas for WCfile to handle the descriptions. I have contacted Allfix's JL> author regarding a WC version, still waiting on an answer. MAKEWCFF may JL> be an easier alternative for most......I'll let ya know...Thanks! If the batch file is a problem and allfix makes a files.bbs in the directories it tosses to then you ought to try Chuck Warren's WCTICK program that will write the batch file to process all them in about 20 seconds. Joe JL> --- WM v3.10/92-0069 JL> * Origin: T.O.L. * 15 Gigs * InterNet * (1:2380/400.0) * WCE 1.5/2107 * What are you doing?!? The message is over,GO AWAY! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID LIVINGSTON Number: 344 To: MARK MALACARNE Date: 04/04/94 4:01p Subj: Ok my turn to test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Ok sorry for this BUT -> -> I just want to make sure that messages are going out <G>.. -> If ya see this please post back <G>.. -> -> Thanks! -> Mark M. -> tlotl@net.com -> -> ... He's not dead Jim! He's Metabolically Challenged! -> --- Cray Systems .002+ -> * Origin: -= TLOTL =- In The Rockies! (1:104/918) -> WELL I SEEN YOUR MESSAGE, KNOW WHAT???????? --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID LIVINGSTON Number: 345 To: JOHN KAUFMAN Date: 04/04/94 4:03p Subj: TEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hi - I hate to do this, but can someone please reply to this to confi -> outbounds. Thanks. -> ┌──────────────┬─────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ -> │ John Kaufman │ Fidonet: 1:104/675 │""""│ │ -> │ OFFWoRLD BBS │ Internet: john.kaufman@f675.n104.z1.fidonet.org │ -> │ 303-343-6978 │ ITCnet: 85:824/116 [( Oo )] │ -> └──────────────┴─────────────────────────────-oOO──(__)──OOo─────┘ -> --- GEcho/Synchronet -> * Origin: OFFWoRLD (303)343·0691/0693/6978 (1:104/675) -> I READ YA LOUD AND CLEAR.. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 346 To: CHRIS GUERTIN Date: 04/04/94 7:40p Subj: AD-* File Echoes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Chris! In a message to All <10/26/22> Chris Guertin wrote: CG> What are the AD-* file echoes? CG> They aren't in the FILEBONE.NA, so does anybody have a FILEBONE.NA-style CG> listing of these areas so I can look them over? You can find a satelite.na in the personal directory the comes in off the bird with that list in it. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Yellow matter custard dripping from a dead dogs eye --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 347 To: JOHNNY GREEN Date: 04/03/94 11:19a Subj: Dongle and OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Johnny, Regarding your message to Wallace Sheldon ..... WS>> A lot of us, as reported here, have tried everything to WS>> get PC to work on OS/2 without any success. I just don't believe WS>> anyone is doing it! JG> I understand your fustration, the problem is I talk to so many people JG> that I cannot remember names. I am trying to find those names, couple JG> of which I can remember first names only. It's possible those people may be able to help us so if you can remember who they are and ask them to give us a hand we sure would appreciate it. Some of us have gone to desperate lengths to get it going. We've heard that it used to work under OS/2 2.0 so we've tried substituting various modules/drivers/managers from 2.0 into our 2.1 systems. No go. We've heard that some parallel ports short pins 18-25 on the DB25 connector which OS/2 doesn't like so we've tried various parallel cards. No go. Right now the speculation is that a few OS/2 gurus have cracked the security in your dongle/software and are using your product in an "irregular" (don't want to say "illegal" <g>) way. We further speculate that Planet Connect doesn't care if the security has been cracked as long as these hackers pay for the service they get (the only decent thing to do) and don't pass the hack on to other people. And that is why we haven't heard from those folks, right? JG> Boyd and I are pressing Aztek for their solution via the dongle. Hopefully JG> we should know something positive in the next couple of days. A fairly reliable source in the OS/2 echo says Planet Connect told him a native OS/2 version is in the works in response to the fact that almost 1/3 of your subscribers are OS/2 users. Do you really have that many OS/2 users signed up? And is there a native OS/2 version under development? Any tentative release date? Kim --- * Origin: The Sailboard (403)-854-4309 Hanna, Alberta (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK MALACARNE Number: 348 To: ART MACK Date: 04/04/94 8:38p Subj: Ok my turn to test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Art Mack to Mark Malacarne <=- AM> I know whats its like but yes your messages are getting out. AM> Just got a satellite eh? well .. We've been running the system since Dec. and we've joined with the local co-op to bring in the mail for the net and there was some concern that mail wasn't going out.. <G>.. You just proved them WRONG <GRIN> Thanks!! Mark M. tlotl@net.com ... If it wasn't for C, we would be using BASI, PASAL and OBOL! --- Cray Systems .002+ * Origin: -= TLOTL =- In The Rockies! (1:104/918) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 349 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 04/04/94 6:40a Subj: Re: Lantastic Ai Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Hrusovszky wrote in a message to Jim Watson: DO>> Some other things that you need to check that might help. DO>> If you don't have a 16550, get one. It won't work without DO>> it under DV or a network. JW> It will under Novell... JH> It also will under Lantastic/AI. I don't have a 16550 in my JH> satellite machine, yett don't have any trouble with it. I suspected as much, but without first hand experience... -:) --- timEd-A10c * Origin: <CyBorg ConTrol> - Where better things happen... (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE NYMAN Number: 350 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 04/04/94 4:00p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > The $40 cost you mention appeals to me. I don't know what > PC Conectivite is though. Could that be PC Connectivity? Ya thats the one . The Writer is Devorac and it is one of thouse bible size computer books that you see in the book store. It will tell you how to adapte a printer cable and connect the printer ports on the two computers and run your network. The book comes with a copy of lantastic Z 4.01 . you can do this or buy the much improved Lantastic Z 5.0 . The 5.0 works much better . but all the "Z" versions of lantasti are for Parallel Port so any would work and you would not have to invest in Network cards . the one drawback in the speed . the network runes about half the speed of a network card. It is OK for moving files but forget running software across the net. > * Origin: The Sailboard (403)-854-4309 Hanna, Alberta > (1:358/25) Sunny Saskatoon says hi. later Kim. .....Mike Nyman --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Dreamtime BBS, Saskatoon SK., Canada (1:140/120) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 351 To: DALE WOOD Date: 04/04/94 9:04p Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello again, Dale! Again, thanks for all your help. DW|I wish I could be gone while this was taking place. I have to make it |happen "by hand" everyday. No days off for me for awhile. I'll swap with you. Come down here, teach all my computer classes, and I'll babysit your system. Deal? <g> DW|I run it manually from DOS with nothing else running, so it doesn't seem |to mind not being loaded high. I guess not. <g> Have a good one. .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * I married beneath me -- all women do. --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 * (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 352 To: TIMOTHY TRACE Date: 04/04/94 9:18p Subj: WildMail 3.1 stuff... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TT|On Sunday, plagued by troubled thoughts of WildMail! 3.1 stuff, |Mac Bryant shared his feelings with Timothy Trace. ^^^ How did you KNOW? <g> Make that a "her" and we're in business. <g> |Four easy steps, Mac. Ahhhh! Your plain ole vanilla kludge, eh? TT|I'd provide you with copies of my batchfiles and such, but by the time I |edit them so anybody else could understand them (!) you'll have figured |out everything on your own... Yes, I will - eventually. I'm getting there. Slowly but surely. | | None of that here. I have a 1.05 gig drive on the PC machine, and a | | 1.8 gig drive on the BBS machine with no disk compression necessary. |Sheesh. Must be nice to be **RICH**. <g> What's that I see in the tagline - 2.8gig? Who're you kidding? <g> |Mac, I goofed. The "RETURN PROMPT FAST" option is a SMARTDRV.EXE command |line parameter, not a Hyperdisk option. Ah, no wonder I couldn't find reference to it. <g> TT|UI or UI:+ forces EMS far call to use interrupt 67h, which works better |when using DesqView with your system. To restore the original far call |method, specify UI:- Default is disabled. This one I think I need. TT|The latest version of HyperWare's SPEEDKIT is 4.65. Call their |support BBS at 415-882-1735 to pick it up. I'm on my way. Thanks. |Don't give up yet, Mac! You should be able to get 450+/min in the final |toss with that processor, unless you've got some slow turkey hard |drives. Keep working... <g> No, both hard drives are new - I forget the ms access right now but they are both quite fast. I'll get there; I *never* give up - never. <g> |Well, there _is_ no limit to how high a message number can be. I thought there was some problem over 6x,xxx+. No? Oh, well, one less thing I have to worry about. Thanks. TT|There ya go, Mac. Hope I answered all your questions! That you did - for the time being, Timothy. <g> Thanks again, .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * Sometimes I wake up grouchy, sometimes I let him sleep. --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 * (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: POSTLINK#1646 (EARTHART) Number: 353 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 04/05/94 2:01a Subj: Routing Error Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Message #2883 to CHUCK WARREN with a subject of Re: Bbs <-> Internet was not sent out due to the following error in your routing instructions: HOLONET : name not found in dictionary. --- * Earth Art BBS! * N.Charleston, SC * (803)552-4389 * 16.8 Duals! * PostLink(tm) v1.11 EARTHART (#1646) : RelayNet(tm) --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff138/a] * Origin: Earth Art BBS! * GreenNet! * (803) 552-4389 Dual 57.6 (1:372/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 354 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/05/94 7:34p Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I did take a quick look at them yesterday Joe, I haven't had time to ->really take a good look yet. I'm using TICIT to move the files which has ->worked well these past few months. I *LOVE* Allfix, it's one hellava ->File Processor! The bad part is writing the batch file for 400 file ->areas for WCfile to handle the descriptions. I have contacted Allfix's ->author regarding a WC version, still waiting on an answer. MAKEWCFF may ->be an easier alternative for most......I'll let ya know...Thanks! FREQ: WCTICK10.ZIP This will create the batch file for ya based on the areas you select! Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN CAMPBELL Number: 355 To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 04/05/94 8:25a Subj: Re: Planet Connect Reciev Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> >DP> Which receiver do you have? I have the little one >DP> -> that goes with the 3ft KU band dish.. and it doesn't >DP> -> get hot at all. Now the power supply gets a quite >DP> warm, -> but never hot.. -> >Dave, > I run the KU with the 2 foot dish >John -> John, -> I stand corrected, I too have the 2ft dish.. -> After my previous post, I taped a thermometer -> to the top of it and it reads about 98 degrees. -> Not sure if that bad or good.. 8-) -> Dave P. That is alittle warm, but not excessivly hot... I would venture to say that mine is alittle over that... When you say 98, I am going ot assume that this is Degrees Farenheight, not Centegrade... If C, then you have a big problem... I have mine where it is cooking at about room temp, around 70 deg F with a fan. Guessing, I would say that mine was between 130 to 140 Deg F. John --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff276/b] * Origin: Sparkies Machine BBS (703) 266-4299 (1:2602/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 356 To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 04/05/94 11:01p Subj: Re: Planet Connect Reciev Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >>> I run the KU with the 2 foot dish >>> John DP>> DP>> John, DP>> I stand corrected, I too have the 2ft dish.. DP>> After my previous post, I taped a thermometer DP>> to the top of it and it reads about 98 degrees. DP>> Not sure if that bad or good.. 8-) GV> Hmmm! 98 Degrees is normal for a Human.. GV> did you also Tape your Thumb to the Thermometer? <grin> GV> if Not, was the reading in Full Sun, or in the Shade? Uh, hey guys, if you are speaking of checking the 'temperature' of an LNB by taping a thermometer to it <G>, that just ain't quite the way it's done. --jah ... Hillary Happens! --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN CAMPBELL Number: 357 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 04/05/94 11:49p Subj: UPLD.LST Error Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Recently I have begun to get an A,R,I,F error on my network when -> UPLD.LST is coming in. Has anyone else had this problem? If so, what -> did you do to correct it? I can lose a half day of transmissions when -> this happens? -> Nothing seems to work except Abort and start PCSKY again. -> Thanks, I run Lantastic 5.0, and having no erros... As amatter of fact, been watching real close over the last 72 hours and I have not gotten not one error.. John --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff276/b] * Origin: Sparkies Machine BBS (703) 266-4299 (1:2602/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 358 To: TIM HELTON Date: 04/05/94 4:08p Subj: Rules of the echo? Refer: NONE Read: 04/07/94 5:55p Private: No Tim, Again I am requesting that you post the rules of this echo, I have been in hear for over 3 months and never have seen any, if I have missed them, please repost them so I, along with others can stay on topic. Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 359 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 04/05/94 12:24a Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MB} Thanks. I got it. The program when run immediately locked up my MB} system. I don't know if it's something in my settings or if it does MB} indeed not like DV, but it did nevertheless. I will experiment with it MB} more when time permits. Well, thats a disappointment. I've used SORTPKT and PSRT both. There is NO comparison in performance. I checked the docs that came with PSRT, and they specifically state that PSRT will work under DOS, DV, and Windows. There's even another version of PSRT that will work under OS/2. There are a few tricks to try in the DOS4GW docs. You might look through them for some ideas. I also rechecked the docs for SORTPKT....It will only work on your own packets that are in the PRETOSS subdirectory. And you are using it exactly as the docs specify. The only apparent way to use SORTPKT is to toss packets to yourself, sort the packets, and toss again into your message base. If it hasn't been mentioned already, check your DataBase lock count in WMCONFIG. Its on the Miscellaneous screen. Should be at 30 for a reasonably fast machine. Hit the F1 key when you are there and the help screen will explain it better than I ever could. MB} Thanks for your continuing help. Hopefully WM4 will correct some of MB} these problems. Hopefully so. But given the number of projects on OCR's stove, WM4 may be sometime off. Dean * WCE 1.5/2034 * --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream BBS * Peoria,IL * (1:232/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 360 To: TIMOTHY TRACE Date: 04/05/94 12:59a Subj: WildMail! 3.1 stuff... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TT> DL-> Joe also recommends no more than 40 message data file groups in any TT> DL-> one subdirectory. Wildmail will lose time wading through that many TT> DL-> files to find the right message datafile group. TT> !!! ??? Dean * WCE 1.5/2034 * --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream BBS * Peoria,IL * (1:232/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 361 To: STEVE HUSK Date: 04/05/94 3:40p Subj: Re: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Steve! In a message to Chuck Bridwell <04/04/94> Steve Husk wrote: SH> >1:3615/50. Having received such a message from Boyd requested by the SH> >moderator of the WHOLLY_BIBLE echo which started with a problem caller SH> >another bbs in our net, I speak from experience. :-) And Boyd didn't pu SH> If every hub would remove that conference from their system, the world wo SH> be a better place. The moderator is a real twit and not worth the time n SH> effort to deal with. And I thought I was the only one feeling that way. I'm all for dropping anything that he is involved with. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Mail not found: (a)bort (r)etry (p)anic (b)lame sysop --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HERRBACH Number: 362 To: JOE LYDA Date: 04/05/94 3:36a Subj: Second Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello JOE, On Apr. 03, 1994 at 12:26 , JOE LYDA of 1:3622/1000 wrote: FW>> Has anyone tried to use 2 different hard drives (C&D) for FW>> receiving files and messages. I want to use drive C for all the FW>> nets and drive D for all the files. I have tried just about FW>> everything and nothing seems to work. JL> Fred all drive letters have to be the same in the rulebase due JL> to the way the software handles the file naming. The file comes JL> in, lets asume on C: drive under a funky name in the root JL> directory, and if it is error free and permitted to be on your JL> system it is renamed to the proper name and directory directly to JL> the FAT Table and is never moved from where it is received by PC JL> Software. To recieve it on C: drive and move it to D: drive JL> would cause some bigtime programing problems. If a file was 1.4 JL> meg in size and it had to be copied from drive to drive then JL> deleted from first drive would take time which the sending unit JL> would not have any way to tell how fast your drive(S) are thus JL> causing wasted transmission time. The way it is now the JL> software and timing are in sink with the sending unit as it takes JL> only so long on a 286/12 and a 120ms hd to rename the file and JL> start a new one. Hmmm. Would DOS APPEND work? John {|-) --- Msgedsq 2.2e * Origin: SPOT!! Don't chew that cabl@#$#%%$^#%HHF NO TERRIER (1:159/950) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 363 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/04/94 6:53p Subj: UseNet Feed Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, what is the Status of the USENET feed? The PCUSENET.TXT file stated that all the areas in it SHOULD be online within the next week, and that was dated the 24 of February. Is there a problem? I'm just curious as to where we stand on this. Also, when do you plan on charging for the feed? I would just like to know well in advance. Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 364 To: CHRIS GUERTIN Date: 04/05/94 10:39a Subj: AD-* File Echoes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Chris Guertin wrote in a message to All: CG> What are the AD-* file echoes? CG> They aren't in the FILEBONE.NA, so does anybody have a CG> FILEBONE.NA-style listing of these areas so I can look them CG> over? They are in this weeks listing, but they are restricted to PC downlinks. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: <CyBorg ConTrol> - Where better things happen... (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 365 To: PAUL STEWART Date: 04/05/94 1:47p Subj: Re: Bbs <-> Internet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Anyone know how to do this in Canada....? I'm from Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario and I go through HoloNet. They charge $25 to process your app, another $50 for their DNS service and then $6/month + $4-$7/hr connect time. Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON KLANK Number: 366 To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 04/05/94 11:10p Subj: Tossing your .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dave! 28 Mar 94 12:14, Dave Sloan wrote to Jason Klank: >> JK> The program will also SCAN for outgoing mail in the above >> JK> formats, but does NOT support outgoing UseNet mail (it's >> JK> main use is for INCOMING mail). JK>> >> JK> Freq XSH from 1:3639/7 for the full version >> JK> Freq STINKY from 1:3639/7 for the .BAG/Squish only >> JK> version. JK>> >> is it shareware, or a demo, or freeware? JK>> It's shareware, but it is not crippled in any way. > I wish that your BBS worked better then xsh or whatever. I just got my > phone bill and found that I dialed your number 8 times in a row in the > evening at two different intervals, for the past week with no response. > Maybe you should work on improving your answering sequence - like taking > your phone off hook when the computer cannot respond. Hmm...I'd have to look at my log file(s) to see what happened. If you get charged for DIALING a number with no response, then perhaps YOU should change LD carriers. If you got a connect, but no response, then your system should have stopped polling mine after a few tries (unless, YOU don't have your software configured right). Plenty of others have FREQed XSH without any problems, so maybe it's your end. Jason --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1121 * Origin: The Fantasy Source BBS! 5.1 Gig! 28.8K V.FC! 803-322-0903 (1:3639/7) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 367 To: MARK MALACARNE Date: 04/05/94 3:07a Subj: Re: Ok my turn to test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *** Quoting Mark Malacarne to All *** MM> @MSGID: 1:104/918.0 2d9d99a7 MM> @PID: GE 1.02+ MM> Ok sorry for this BUT MM> MM> I just want to make sure that messages are going out <G>.. MM> If ya see this please post back <G>.. MM> MM> Thanks! MM> Mark M. MM> tlotl@net.com MM> MM> ... He's not dead Jim! He's Metabolically Challenged! MM> --- Cray Systems .002+ MM> * Origin: -= TLOTL =- In The Rockies! (1:104/918) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 368 To: JOHN KAUFMAN Date: 04/05/94 3:07a Subj: Re: TEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *** Quoting John Kaufman to All *** JK> @MSGID: 1:104/675 2f007191 JK> Hi - I hate to do this, but can someone please reply to this to JK> confirm my JK> outbounds. Thanks. JK> ****************************************************************** JK> * John Kaufman * Fidonet: 1:104/675 *""""* * JK> * OFFWoRLD BBS * Internet: john.kaufman@f675.n104.z1.fidonet.org * JK> * 303-343-6978 * ITCnet: 85:824/116 [( Oo )] * JK> *********************************************-oOO**(__)**OOo****** JK> --- GEcho/Synchronet JK> * Origin: OFFWoRLD (303)343*0691/0693/6978 (1:104/675) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 369 To: JOE LYDA Date: 04/05/94 1:22p Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> JL> I did take a quick look at them yesterday Joe, I haven't had t -> JL> really take a good look yet. I'm using TICIT to move the files wh -> JL> worked well these past few months. I *LOVE* Allfix, it's one hell -> JL> File Processor! The bad part is writing the batch file for 400 f -> JL> areas for WCfile to handle the descriptions. I have contacted All -> JL> author regarding a WC version, still waiting on an answer. MAKEWC -> JL> be an easier alternative for most......I'll let ya know...Thanks! -> -> If the batch file is a problem and allfix makes a files.bbs in -> the directories it tosses to then you ought to try Chuck Warren's -> WCTICK program that will write the batch file to process all them -> in about 20 seconds. If this is true, there is a God! Thanks Joe! --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: T.O.L. * 15 Gigs * InterNet * (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 370 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 04/02/94 2:20p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Murry! In a message to Jeff Bowman <03/28/94> Murry Francis wrote: MF> <=> Jeff Bowman Was Heard Saying This To All: MF> JB>As of now, I get everything on the one machine and then MF> JB>laplink it all MF> JB>over... This is VERY VERY time consuming. MF> Jeff LapLink has a command line mode that will let you transfer the s MF> over to the main system via a batch file, they are in the LapLink docs. I MF> alot cheaper than a network for this kind of stuff. can you run that thought the parallel <<sig.imp * WCE 1.5/2119 * Chicken heads are the chief food of captive alligators. --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 371 To: TIM TRAHAN Date: 04/02/94 2:22p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Tim! In a message to Jeff Bowman <03/28/94> Tim Trahan wrote: TT> Get a Lantastic starter pack, their pretty cheap. Or a novell Lite TT> starter pack would work. Pretty much, nowdays you can buy ethernet TT> cards at arround $70 each, you will need one per computer, then the TT> software. You can get Novell Lite at $59 per node, so you can start off TT> pretty cheap! thanks, I have Lantasti AI. Is that any good <<sig.imp * WCE 1.5/2119 * I'm in shape ... round's a shape isn't it? --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 372 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 04/02/94 2:23p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Tim! In a message to Jeff Bowman <03/28/94> Tim Lajoie wrote: TL> -> As of now, I get everything on the one machine and then laplink it al TL> -> over... This is VERY VERY time consuming. TL> -> TL> -> What is the easy and cheapest way to get a network running TL> Computer Shopper has many vendors that sell a Network Lite starter TL> Kit for around $300. That includes 2 copies of NWL, 2 ethernet cards, TL> cable and connectors. Not a bad deal. I have Lantasti AI. Is that any good <<sig.imp * WCE 1.5/2119 * Press "+" to see another tagline. --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK SKELLY Number: 373 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/04/94 1:11a Subj: Re: School echoes availab Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG>> I think it would be better if Boyd would distribute his backbone BG>> seperate than zone 1, god knows who will approach him next with their 31 BG> Ohhhhh! I got a few coming. Keep 'em rollin', Boyd! Just ignore the "pothole on the Information Superhighway". <G> Frank * QMPro 1.51 * What this world needs is a damn good plague. --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE BELUE Number: 374 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/05/94 9:26a Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Have heard rumors that ALLFIX is going to be compatible with -> Wildcat, too.... JL> I would give $100 for that!!! I just dumped WCFF for an JL> ALLFIX/WCFILE combo. The WCFILE side is a pain to set up. John, I heard that. I'm using AllFix also, and am getting ready to see what I can do with WCFILE. Would you mind sharing the fruit of your labors? > Mike < Tue, 04-05-94 * DeLuxe2/386 1.25 #6075 * I may work slow, but I do poor work --- WM v3.10/92-0423 * Origin: Blackbeard's Tavern 803-294-9657 Greenville,SC (1:3639/3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUSSELL NABER Number: 375 To: JOHN CAMPBELL Date: 04/06/94 5:04a Subj: Planet Connect Reciever Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! Sunday April 03 1994, John Campbell writes to Russell Naber: ->> I too have experienced errors. I am on my third receiver, (PC ->> customer service on this subject is great.) ->> ->> You should see my solution. I took a 2 inch AC boxer fan and stuffed ->> into a old bicycle water bottle on one end and pointed the smaller ->> into the reciever's grill vents to keep air flow across it!! ->> ->> Keeps the reciever cooler, now for the power supply temps, I am ->> crossing my fingers on this one.<g> JC> The power supply is another story...... It gets hot, and even though JC> it looks like it has vents... It is a sealed unit... I am not sure how JC> to go about cooling it... Actually my power supply stays cooler than the JC> reciever ever did, so I am not really worried about that by JC> comparision... Your cooling solution for the reciever is quiet JC> ingenious... Will have to look into some kind of ducting here... Great JC> idea.. JC> -+- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff276/b] JC> + Origin: Sparkies Machine BBS (703) 266-4299 (1:2602/510) Thanks, I found that this setup would not damage the unit. I still need to put some type of fine mesh screen on the water bottle near the fan to prevent sucking in of dust. (even though dust is minimal.<g>) Now if I can only remember to run makecfg when I change the aconfig.sky file and also update the upcheck.cfg file when I do this. Caused about 2 day's grief around here due to my forgetfullness. Russell * Origin: Black Diamond BBS - (307) 686-0940 (1:15/24) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIMOTHY TRACE Number: 376 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 04/05/94 5:10p Subj: WildMail 3.1 stuff... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TT->MB| I have a 1.05 gig drive on the PC machine, a 1.8 gig drive on TT->MB| the BBS machine with no disk compression. TT| Sheesh. Must be nice to be **RICH**. <g> MB| What's that I see in (your) tagline - 2.8gig? MB| Who're you kidding? <g> :-) Actually, my whole 2.8gig is CD-ROMs and TapeDoor. I've got 20 Colorado Memory Systems' Jumbo 250's on-line. <wicked grin> That tag line is a goof. I've changed it. It should read "1.8gig". I wonder if that's false advertising... But, by the time you read this, I should be pushing 3.3gig. Here's how it stacks up: 2) Mitsumi single-speed CD-ROM readers w/ 650m discs in each 2) Maxtor 7213a 245mb IDE hard disk drives And the big daddy! <G> This is IRS money, of course! 1) Micropolis 1750mb IDE hard disk drive I love Uncle Sam. Well, to phrase that correctly, I love when Uncle Sam lets me withold a little extra so's I can have a yearly shopping spree! Have a good one, Mac! Tim --- WM v3.10/93-0878 * Origin: *NEVERLAND* v.32b, v.42b, 1.9gig, 24hours daily (1:100/440.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED WHITTOM Number: 377 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 04/05/94 7:12a Subj: Second Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Fred Whittom wrote in a message to All: -> -> FW> Has anyone tried to use 2 different hard drives (C&D) for -> FW> receiving files and messages. I want to use drive C for all -> FW> the nets and drive D for all the files. I have tried just -> FW> about everything and nothing seems to work. -> -> Suffice to say that the way the PC software works what you want to do -> only unlikely but -absolutely- impossible. -> -> greg.shaffer@ascicorp.com -> -> ... Diversity is God's way of amusing himself. -> -> --- timEd-B9 -> * Origin: -=[ROUTE 66 BBS]=- 5.8 Gigs of Fun (1:370/510) Iwas afraid of that.. Thanks Fred --- WM v3.10/93-0786 * Origin: THE BACKDOOR BBS Williamsburg, VA (1:271/320) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED WHITTOM Number: 378 To: JOE LYDA Date: 04/05/94 7:13a Subj: Second Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hello Fred! -> -> In a message to All <03/31/94> Fred Whittom wrote: -> -> FW> Has anyone tried to use 2 different hard drives (C&D) for rece -> FW> files and messages. I want to use drive C for all the nets and dr -> FW> for all the files. I have tried just about everything and nothing -> FW> to work. -> Fred all drive letters have to be the same in the rulebase due to -> the way the software handles the file naming. The file comes in, -> lets asume on C: drive under a funky name in the root directory, -> and if it is error free and permitted to be on your system it is -> renamed to the proper name and directory directly to the FAT -> Table and is never moved from where it is received by PC -> Software. To recieve it on C: drive and move it to D: drive -> would cause some bigtime programing problems. If a file was 1.4 -> meg in size and it had to be copied from drive to drive then -> deleted from first drive would take time which the sending unit -> would not have any way to tell how fast your drive(S) are thus -> causing wasted transmission time. The way it is now the software -> and timing are in sink with the sending unit as it takes only so -> long on a 286/12 and a 120ms hd to rename the file and start a -> new one. -> -> Joe -> Thanks for the input, I will just have to get a bigger drive. Fred --- WM v3.10/93-0786 * Origin: THE BACKDOOR BBS Williamsburg, VA (1:271/320) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 379 To: JEFF BOWMAN Date: 04/06/94 12:22p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JB>can you run that thought the parallel I stand corrected, I tried laplink using the parallel, and no luck, I am now trying Lantastic Z with the parallel cable setup. I'll let ya know how it works. Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN SVATY Number: 380 To: ALL Date: 04/06/94 4:30p Subj: TVLISTxx.ARC in Dallas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Are any BBS's in the Dallas area carring the TVLIST for TVAGENT? I was interested in obtaining this from Planet Connect but if I have to call long distance it probably would not be worth it. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: TCR'S Revenge (1:124/4218) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 381 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/06/94 11:38p Subj: WCTICK Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JL} -> If the batch file is a problem and allfix makes a files.bbs in JL} -> the directories it tosses to then you ought to try Chuck Warren's JL} -> WCTICK program that will write the batch file to process all them JL} -> in about 20 seconds. JL} If this is true, there is a God! Thanks Joe! Yes, Virginia, there IS a Santa Claus. WCTICK works GREAT! Create the file areas in MakeWild. Call up WCTICK, tag the file areas you want from a menu, and hit F10. Your batch file appears in less than 20 seconds. Indented, labels, everything in perfect order. FREQ WCFILE from 1:3611/15 Thank You, Chuck! Dean * WCE 1.5/2034 * --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream BBS * Peoria,IL * (1:232/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DALE WOOD Number: 382 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 04/06/94 5:49a Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to Dale Wood <04/04/94> Mac Bryant wrote: MB> Hello again, Dale! MB> Again, thanks for all your help. MB> DW|I wish I could be gone while this was taking place. I have to make it MB> |happen "by hand" everyday. No days off for me for awhile. MB> I'll swap with you. Come down here, teach all my computer classes, and MB> I'll babysit your system. Deal? <g> Hmmm. I taught college for a couple of years only to find out most of my students hadn't really gotten out of grammar school yet. Think I'll stay in front of my machine. At least it doesn't lose homework, flunk finals, or make excuses why it doesn't come to class expecting me to believe it. Dale * WCE 1.5/2064 * (A)bort, (R)etry, (D)etonate --- WM v3.10/92-0250 * Origin: Dragnet BBS Oceanside,CA. 619-940-1985 (1:202/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BARRY HERBERT Number: 383 To: ALL Date: 04/02/94 7:23a Subj: Problem Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi people. I was wondering if anyone was having or had a simular problem and could help me here. I'm running a 386SX 20 Bridgecard on an AMiga 3000. The card is fully IBM compatable. When receiving data I seem to be picking up only every other file or mail packet. I talk to Boyd and he tried slowing down the pause between files but that didn't help. I'm getting no errors. The current file header doesn't change and the block count goes beyound the original size. Any ideas as to why it's not picking up the headers in sequence???? Thanks __ __///Barry Herbert,FidoNet InterNet MicroSoft EchoNet Rime UseNet \XX/Intelec AmigaNet NaNet RoseNet PlanetEarth POWERED by SATELLITE --- EXCELSIOR! BBS v1.20; XMAIL! v1.70 * Origin: THE POWER HOUSE BBS Mara BC CND (604)838-7446 (1:353/380) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 384 To: JOHN HERRBACH Date: 04/06/94 3:37p Subj: Second Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! In a message to Joe Lyda <04/05/94> John Herrbach wrote: JH> Hello JOE, JH> On Apr. 03, 1994 at 12:26 , JOE LYDA of 1:3622/1000 wrote: JH> FW>> Has anyone tried to use 2 different hard drives (C&D) for JH> FW>> receiving files and messages. I want to use drive C for all the JH> FW>> nets and drive D for all the files. I have tried just about JH> FW>> everything and nothing seems to work. JH> Hmmm. Would DOS APPEND work? Not that I am aware of. * WCE 1.5/2107 * --- A naked man fears no pickpocket --- --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 385 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/06/94 3:38p Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! In a message to Joe Lyda <04/05/94> John Lyon wrote: JL> -> JL> I did take a quick look at them yesterday Joe, I haven't had t JL> -> JL> really take a good look yet. I'm using TICIT to move the files wh JL> -> JL> worked well these past few months. I *LOVE* Allfix, it's one hell JL> -> JL> File Processor! The bad part is writing the batch file for 400 f JL> -> JL> areas for WCfile to handle the descriptions. I have contacted All JL> -> JL> author regarding a WC version, still waiting on an answer. MAKEWC JL> -> JL> be an easier alternative for most......I'll let ya know...Thanks! JL> -> JL> -> If the batch file is a problem and allfix makes a files.bbs in JL> -> the directories it tosses to then you ought to try Chuck Warren's JL> -> WCTICK program that will write the batch file to process all them JL> -> in about 20 seconds. JL> If this is true, there is a God! Thanks Joe! Yes there is a God and this is true. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Just in one of my moods. <burp> I think that helped. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE BELUE Number: 386 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/05/94 11:05p Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JL>worked well these past few months. I *LOVE* Allfix, it's one hellava JL>File Processor! The bad part is writing the batch file for 400 file JL>areas for WCfile to handle the descriptions. John, I just recently discovered WCFILE, and have been planning to try and marry it with AllFix. I'd like to see a portion of your BAT file (not all 400 lines <g>). I'm thinking that I can use 4DOS' GLOBAL command to avoid having to specify each directory. JL>author regarding a WC version, still waiting on an answer. That sure would be nice to have. > Mike < Tue, 04-05-94 * DeLuxe2/386 1.25 #6075 * I may work slow, but I do poor work --- WM v3.10/92-0423 * Origin: Blackbeard's Tavern 803-294-9657 Greenville,SC (1:3639/3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HAROLD CARLSON Number: 387 To: ANYONE Date: 04/07/94 1:24p Subj: Rime Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Well I Would like to know who and how to get the right software and what knot to get into rime. any help would be greate ! harold --- * Origin: Back Woods BBS (1:322/572) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 388 To: ALL Date: 04/07/94 9:56a Subj: usa today door Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No If anyone is using the usa today feed with a door program for viewing, I would be interested in hearine what door program you use and how well it works. -jim- --- WM v3.10/93-1181 * Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 389 To: JOHN CAMPBELL Date: 04/07/94 11:00a Subj: UPLD.LST Error Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> Recently I have begun to get an A,R,I,F error on my network when -> -> UPLD.LST is coming in. Has anyone else had this problem? If so, wh -> -> did you do to correct it? I can lose a half day of transmissions w -> -> this happens? -> -> Nothing seems to work except Abort and start PCSKY again. -> -> Thanks, -> -> I run Lantastic 5.0, and having no erros... As amatter of fact, been -> watching real close over the last 72 hours and I have not gotten not -> error.. Some folks see this problem running networks, and some don't. The problem seems to be that PTCCMAIN is trying to delete the old copy of UPLD.LST at the same time that it has it open internally. The only solution I'm aware of is to set SKYDRIVE to a non-networked drive. As to why some folks can run without seeing this I have no idea. When I had SKYDRIVE set to a netwirked drive I would get this error 3-4 times per week. Several others have reported seeing the identical problem, while others with apparently similar setups don't see it at all. -jim- --- WM v3.10/93-1181 * Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 390 To: JEFF BOWMAN Date: 04/07/94 10:57a Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> can you run that thought the parallel Jeff your 'sig.imp' seems to be missing <g>. -jim- --- WM v3.10/93-1181 * Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS GUERTIN Number: 391 To: TOM HAAVISTO Date: 04/06/94 8:10p Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Check out what Tom Haavisto wrote on 03 Apr 94 02:53:11: TH> > There are over 5,000 Amiga-run BBSs in the current FidoNet TH> NODELIST... TH> WHAT? Your Nodelist must be very different than the one everyone TH> else TH> is running if this is true... Same one you have, but there's no way to tell from the Nodelist itself. There are simply that many BBSs on Fido that are run with Amigas. --- DLG Pro v1.0/PDQMail v2.53 * Origin: Fat Agnus - A Quality System, Planet Connected (1:225/330) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAUL CORMIER Number: 392 To: JOHN CAMPBELL Date: 04/04/94 11:18a Subj: Planet Connect Reciever Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JC>hot as this thing runs, I can't help to believe that it was not a JC>tempature related failure.... I have since come up with a simple I wouldn't be surprised, since I had a "distinctive ring" box placed over the IDC receiver - the ring box wouldn't work properly after a while. I then moved the ring box to another location and its been working fine (the ring box) ever since. .Paul * OLX 2.1 TD * Mental Floss prevents Moral Decay. --- WM v3.10/92-0414 * Origin: -≡ CompuBBS ≡- Edmundston,NB - (506) 735-3831 - (1:255/20.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN KAUFMAN Number: 393 To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 04/06/94 9:39p Subj: Re: TEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: Re: TEST BY: Glenn Vermette to John Kaufman on Tue Apr 05 1994 03:07 am > *** Quoting John Kaufman to All *** > > JK> @MSGID: 1:104/675 2f007191 > JK> Hi - I hate to do this, but can someone please reply to this to > JK> confirm my > JK> outbounds. Thanks. > JK> ****************************************************************** > JK> * John Kaufman * Fidonet: 1:104/675 *""""* * > JK> * OFFWoRLD BBS * Internet: john.kaufman@f675.n104.z1.fidonet.org * > JK> * 303-343-6978 * ITCnet: 85:824/116 [( Oo )] * > JK> *********************************************-oOO**(__)**OOo****** > JK> --- GEcho/Synchronet > JK> * Origin: OFFWoRLD (303)343*0691/0693/6978 (1:104/675) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK MALACARNE Number: 394 To: FRED WHITTOM Date: 04/07/94 10:35a Subj: Second Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Fred Whittom to Joe Lyda <=- -> Hello Fred! -> -> In a message to All <03/31/94> Fred Whittom wrote: -> -> FW> Has anyone tried to use 2 different hard drives (C&D) for rece -> FW> files and messages. I want to use drive C for all the nets and dr -> FW> for all the files. I have tried just about everything and nothing -> FW> to work. Have you tried subst c: d:\imcoming ? or something like that? I would think that you maybe able to trick the software into thinking its writing to the local drive when it really writing to the network.. Hope it helps Mark tlotl@net.com ... Answers: $1, Short: $5, Correct: $25, dumb looks are still free. --- Cray Systems .002+ * Origin: -= TLOTL =- In The Rockies! (1:104/918) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 395 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 04/05/94 1:38p Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > feeding others? If, for example, a user in my download gets > excessively annoying, and he is to be cut off, as long as I > oblige and cut him/her off from the offending echobase, that > WILL leave my (and all my other downlinks') feeds intact, > wouldn't it? Not to answer for anyone else, but :-) The answer is yes, your feed would remain intact. Actually this was one of the worst little nigglies discussed in the lead up to the PC service (amazing how much agonizing goes on over such stuff [grin]). But even from a simplistic view, if a moderator contacts you to sever a feed and you comply, he will never even communicate with PC. That is one of the reasons why it is very important for PC Sites redistributing echomail to keep their NEC informed of their downlinks. Normally a feed cut request will be sent to the NEC (after hopefully the offending sysop has first been contacted). If information about who is feeding whom is not at the NEC's finger tips, he cannot act and PC gets involved totally unnecessarily. Whereas a properly informed NEC would simply contact the PC feed and let him/her know the situ; problem solved, no PC involvement. Again, it comes down to a bit of cooperation. Anyway, you have it right, so nothing to worry about :-) .glenn. --- GE386 1.02 * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIMOTHY TRACE Number: 396 To: DEAN LAKE Date: 04/06/94 10:36p Subj: WildMail! 3.1 stuff... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> TT> DL-> Joe also recommends no more than 40 message data file groups -> TT> DL-> one subdirectory. Wildmail will lose time wading through th -> TT> DL-> files to find the right message datafile group. -> -> TT> !!! -> -> ??? That's a good 'un. Tim --- WM v3.10/93-0878 * Origin: *NEVERLAND* v.32b, v.42b, 1.9gig, 24hours daily (1:100/440.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 397 To: JEFF BOWMAN Date: 04/07/94 2:30a Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> TL> Computer Shopper has many vendors that sell a Network Lite st -> TL> Kit for around $300. That includes 2 copies of NWL, 2 ethernet ca -> TL> cable and connectors. Not a bad deal. -> -> I have Lantasti AI. Is that any good I've never used it so I can't say for sure, however, I have noticed that alot of vendors offer the choice betwwen AI and Netware Lite. Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANDY KEEVES Number: 398 To: ALL Date: 04/05/94 2:01p Subj: Planet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No For those of you who have been waiting patiently for the Planet Connect ILink packets here's an update on our progress (or lack thereof)... In a few words - no progress. I have spoken with the folks at Planet Connect a few times over the last month+ however, it seems they are "not ready", whatever that means. Intended uplink tests have been pushed back for various reasons, phone calls are not returned. Frankly, I gave up chasing them at my own cost. Planet Connect does not give away their service to you free - as such I'd call them a business. As a business they are unresponsive even to a free source of materials they can bill for. As of today the prescans intended for the satellite have been stopped (the packets were just accumulating on disk anyhow, going nowhere). I am sorry I don't have any better news for you on this but frankly, I have neither the time nor the money to keep calling them over and over. If/when they get a bit organized perhaps we'll try again. --- ■ 1st 1.11 #8bt ■ The difference between doing it and not doing it is doing i+ ■ RNET 2.002: ILink: Executive Network ■ Mount Vernon, NY ■ (914)667-4567 --- QScan v1.064b * Origin: City Lites BBS (701) 775-1143 HST/DS/V.32bis (1:14/644) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTY DUPLISSEY Number: 399 To: CYRUS CATHEY Date: 04/03/94 4:16p Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Cyrus! Replying to a message of Cyrus Cathey to Marty Duplissey: :}->> If Anyone is interested I have wipped up a fix for using raid with :}->> Wcff. It is in testing right now and if all goes well will be put :}->> up freq in the next few days. This utility will allow you to make :}->> multip at raid messages while tweeking the appropiate wcff.cfg :}->> file. Let me there is any interest before we waste the bandwith to :}->> distribute it. CC> I am also interested. Let us know when it is ready and we will pick CC> it up or you can send it to Ron Woods so we can all get it. Freqable as Magic name of PRERAID. Marty! --- FleetStreet 0.85wb * Origin: Programmers Connection OS/2 Longview, TX (903) 643-7607 (1:398/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALTER CADE Number: 400 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/05/94 7:26p Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> No Problem with Allfix at all Art! It's the batch file to check f -> the files.bbs in each subdir and running Wcfile on each. With 400 -> file areas it's very time consumming to write. I would sure like -> see someone write something to automate this! -> Bet I got what you need. It's called PreRaid, Freq by that name. Will allow WCFF to allow raid to work with multiple config files for those HUGE file listings. --- WM v3.10/93-0997 * Origin: Arti BBS (903) 758-ARTI Multi-Line 28,8 Hayes V.fc (1:398/2.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 401 To: CHRIS GUERTIN Date: 04/08/94 1:09p Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Chris Guertin wrote in a message to Tom Haavisto: CG> Check out what Tom Haavisto wrote on 03 Apr 94 02:53:11: TH> > There are over 5,000 Amiga-run BBSs in the current FidoNet TH> NODELIST... TH> WHAT? Your Nodelist must be very different than the one everyone TH> else TH> is running if this is true... CG> Same one you have, but there's no way to tell from the CG> Nodelist itself. There are simply that many BBSs on Fido CG> that are run with Amigas. Hmmmm so since you cant tell from the nodelist (obviously) how is it that -you- know? greg.shaffer@ascicorp.com ... In every revolution there is one man with a vision. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -=[ROUTE 66 BBS]=- 5.8 Gigs of Fun (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 402 To: HAROLD CARLSON Date: 04/08/94 2:11p Subj: Rime Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No HC} Well I Would like to know who and how to get the right software HC} and what knot to get into rime. any help would be greate ! HC} harold Contact Bonnie Anthony at her BBS. BBS name is RUNNING-A Phones: 301-229-5623 or 301-229-5342 You will need to purchase POSTLINK software ($30-$40?), and a set of UTI drivers if you don't run PCBoard software. Once you have POSTLINK set up, she will advise you on which hub to call. Call her BBS and look around, I'm sure there are download'able text files explaining RIME. Dean * WCE 1.5/2034 * --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream BBS * Peoria,IL * (1:232/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 403 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/08/94 4:56p Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Anyway, it took about 10 mins from unzip to running ALL the FDN's -> from Planet Connect to Wildcat and my downlinks! The only short -> commings it had, if you can even say that, is the limitation of 79 -> Lines and the /E switch for WCfile. It only took a minute to do a -> "find and replace" on the WCTICK.BAT with my text editor to add the -> /E switch and 250 lines on each area. Everything is working -> flawlessly! I was so tickled I could have just kissed you! <g> Yeah, I've been asked to make a few changes, which I'm going too! Right now I'm finishing up an AREAS.BBS & FIDONET.NA/.NO/*.* comparison program. It's actually done, just need to document it. Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JANIS KRACHT Number: 404 To: BARRY HERBERT Date: 04/08/94 8:25a Subj: Problem Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Barry, BH> The current file header doesn't change and the BH> block count goes beyound the original size. BH> Any ideas as to why it's not picking up the headers in sequence???? We've run Planet Connect on a number of different systems here, and right now we're running it on a 386-16 DX system with a 16550AFN. We've noticed that if we shell out of the program and come back in, that the block count is not properly updated (it hasn't incremented enough) and for the file that we're currently getting the header doesn't change and the block count goes beyond the original size. Since this didn't happen on a 386-33 DX system with a 16450 UART, we're kind of leaning toward thinking the software can't handle the slower system speed. The only other factor involved is that the 386-16 has a slightly slower hard drive. I don't know the internals of the software, but I would guess that the software is blowing off the delay between files if the block count at the time the delay comes is less than the "expected" block count. We deal with this situation by never shelling out (we exit the program and then come back in). Obviously in your situation you need to either change hardware, persuade the folks at Planet Connect to improve the software or give up on Planet Connect <smile> Take care, Janis --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: PDN HQ (914)344-0350 HST/V32T 343-7540 HST/V32b (1:272/38) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 405 To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 04/08/94 7:51p Subj: usa today door Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jim St. John wrote in a message to All: JSJ> If anyone is using the usa today feed with a door program JSJ> for viewing, I would be interested in hearine what door JSJ> program you use and how well it works. I'm using Qreader version 3.2, registration $25.00, not crippled when unregistered (just displays a message to callers that it is unregistered). It handles more than just USA Today - also does Newsbytes and others. Archive name QREAD32.ZIP - came down through PC back in December. Sorry, no freq's here yet. It works very well - I'm happy with it and so are my callers. I have registered it too, BTW. -=- Craig. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 406 To: ALL Date: 04/07/94 6:30a Subj: PCFU Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! Could some send me an example of the batch file to use PCFU. I have one created but when it goes to process the .TIC files, it says something to the effect of duplication.. Any help would be great <<sig.imp * WCE 1.5/2119 * ... The Lean, Mean, Reading Machine... --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 407 To: ALL Date: 04/07/94 6:32a Subj: Lantasti AI Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! I have a zinger for you Lantasti people.. I just got a 2 node lic. and Im having problems. Im using WD8000 cards and everything works great.. I have login to each machine run though net chat... everything.. Util I goto copy for run a file from another machine. The the system reboots of freezes... Any suggestions <<sig.imp * WCE 1.5/2119 * Birthplace of WcEDIT 504-796-5860 THE NDE BBS --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 408 To: RONNIE TOTH Date: 04/06/94 5:42p Subj: RADIST Announcement Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Ronnie! Monday March 28 1994 10:47, Ronnie Toth wrote to RADIST Interests: RT> !! NOTICE !! NOTICE !! NOTICE !! NOTICE !! NOTICE RT> !! RT> Effective April 1, 1994 THANK YOU! RT> Barring Unforseen Difficulties GOD FORBID! Thank you, Brian ... He who laughs, lasts. --- GED 2.42.G0214+ 65LM3 * Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 409 To: CHRIS GUERTIN Date: 04/06/94 5:47p Subj: AD-* File Echoes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Chris! Sunday April 03 1994 15:27, Chris Guertin wrote to All: CG> What are the AD-* file echoes? % From : Rick Johnston 1:229/2 09 Jan 94 21:45:10 % To : Tim Pearson % Subj : AD (Author Direct) FDN %────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── ─ % > BG> Please be aware of not forwarding any areas that % > BG> begin with AD- as this is a closed distribution. % % > Could you send out an updated NEWFILES.TXT over the link or post % > here the list of tag names and descriptions for these file areas % > so that we can configure our .tic processors to process and % > properly secure the new AD-* stuff? % % %Hi Tim % % Here's the listing, straight from an "official" AD file (note the the %various "required" bits would likely apply only to "official" Author-Direct %nodes) % % %- - - - - begin quote - - - - - %This is a listing of the various file areas associated with the AUTHOR-DIRECT %File Distribution Network. The AREATAG names are used by the various File %Tossing utilities which process incoming files. All Network HUBS are required %to carry ALL areas, and should add all of these areas to their File Tossing %configurations (i.e. TICK, ALLFIX, etc). % %AREATAG Description %----------------------------------------------------------------------------- % (Optional for End Nodes% Required for Hubs) % AREA ADIRLIST 0 ! AUTHOR-DIRECT Nodelist (full) AREA ADIRDIFF 0 ! AUTHOR-DIRECT Nodediff (differences) AREA ASP-MEMB 0 ! ASP Membership Files (Membership Applications, Info, etc) AREA ASP-CAT 0 ! ASP Products Catalogs (Full, Windows, etc) % (Required for All Nodes) AREA AD-BUS 0 ! Business/Finance Programs AREA AD-COMM 0 ! Communications Programs AREA AD-DOSAP 0 ! DOS Application Programs AREA AD-DOSDK 0 ! DOS Desktop Programs AREA AD-DOSGM 0 ! DOS Games AREA AD-DOSUT 0 ! DOS Utilities AREA AD-EDUC 0 ! Educational Programs AREA AD-ENGMT 0 ! Engineering & Math Programs AREA AD-GRAPH 0 ! Graphics Programs AREA AD-HOMHB 0 ! Home & Hobby Programs AREA AD-OS2AP 0 ! OS/2 Application Programs AREA AD-OS2DK 0 ! OS/2 Desktop Programs AREA AD-OS2GM 0 ! OS/2 Games AREA AD-OS2UT 0 ! OS/2 Utilities AREA AD-PROGT 0 ! Programming Tools AREA AD-PROGM 0 ! Programming Misc AREA AD-VERT 0 ! Vertical Market Programs AREA AD-WINAP 0 ! Windows Application Programs AREA AD-WINDK 0 ! Windows Desktop Programs AREA AD-WINGM 0 ! Windows Games AREA AD-WINUT 0 ! Windows Utilities %------------ ----------------------------------------- %NOTE TO ALL "TICK" USERS - If you are using TICK to automate the processing of %inbound Network files, you are *REQUIRED* to implement the REPLACE option in %your TICK configuration file. This option allows the author to specify a %filename that should be "replaced" by the new version that you have just %recieved. This option can either 1) delete the older file, or 2) move the older %file to another directory. Either way, this allows the author to remove older %versions of their files from distribution if they desire. This is an allowed %option for ASP authors, and ASP BBS and Disk Vendor members are required by ASP %policy to abide by the authors wishes regarding their older versions. As such, %the AUTHOR-DIRECT File Distribution Network makes this option available to them. % %If other file tossing software is also capable of this feature, users are also %required to implement it. We are only familiar with the TICK software, and can't %be specific regarding other utilities. But we do require that you implement such %features if they are available to you. % %The ASP authors are given this option on the Network file submission form, and %it is made *VERY* clear to them that they *MUST* own the rights to any filename %that they specify in this field. Any violation or abuse of this feature by %authors will be dealt with on legal levels by the network administration. If you %suspect any such violation or abuse, please make the network administration %officials aware of it immediately. %----------------------------------------------------------------------------- % %If you are a Network End Node, and wish to automate the processing of the %inbound Network files, you can obtain a file called TICK210.ARJ from the Network %HQ system, or ask your Hub sysop if they have it. By running the TICK program %after recieving the files from your Hub, the new files recieved will be %processed and automatically placed in your download areas for you. % %Note that the TICK program is compatible with the FILES.BBS file description %format by default, but it can also be configured for compatibility with nearly %any BBS file description format which uses an ASCII file for online file %descriptions. % %- - - - - end quote - - - - - % % hope this was of use to you... % % Rick Johnston % ASP Author Direct Hub, % Eastern Canada :) % % %-!-- % ! Origin: Alpha City BBS, Oshawa, ON (905)579-6302 (1:229/2) % % %--- GoldED 2.40 % * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) Just export this to a text file... Thank you, Brian ... America never lost a war or won a conference. --- GED 2.42.G0214+ 65LM3 * Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19) >> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 << >> Continued in next message << ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 410 To: CHRIS GUERTIN Date: 04/06/94 5:47p Subj: AD-* File Echoes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 << >> Continued from previous message << ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEPHEN HARRIS Number: 411 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/08/94 1:55p Subj: k-12 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Emmett Perdue to Boyd Goodin <=- BG> Fine. Anyone else feel this way? Gheese, you try to help out and EP> Not here, or that I see in the echo....just the $#%$#%#@'s like Murry SH> I am a Bluewave user, sent my registration money yesterday. I have fun exploring BBs's and their boards. I logged into a BBs which had about 40% of their echoes devoted to K-12. So far they average 30 total echoes so about 12 to K-12. I was disappointed in seeing so much selection devoted to K-12. Also each K-12 topic contained around 4-6 posts. Three of the topic areas had 25 posts consisting of the moderator posting the rules to the board 25 times. I have a warning beep that tells me when my message is 80% redundant. Maybe this is a local choice, that sysop is in a rural effort. But I don't use his BBs because of this. I intend this as information that you might not know because I am so far down the scale from you. You do have a hard job...it is quality spiritual work or maybe you like the word service better and it will pay you dividends. But if something is driving you crazy don't force yourself. Getting off topic <g> Bye. ... Backups offline save backups on line or better UPCASTE than downcast! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: The Chamber II * 408-336-5325 * Ben Lomond,CA (1:216/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 412 To: MIKE BELUE Date: 04/08/94 12:58p Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> JL>worked well these past few months. I *LOVE* Allfix, it's one hella -> JL>File Processor! The bad part is writing the batch file for 400 fi -> JL>areas for WCfile to handle the descriptions. -> -> John, -> -> I just recently discovered WCFILE, and have been planning to -> try and marry it with AllFix. I'd like to see a portion of -> your BAT file (not all 400 lines <g>). I'm thinking that I can -> use 4DOS' GLOBAL command to avoid having to specify each -> directory. -> Here 'tis... REM Created with WCTICK by Chuck Warren C: CD \WC :1 If Not Exist E:\GAMES\FILES.BBS Goto 2 Wcfile /D:E:\GAMES\FILES.BBS /A:30 /P:1,12,14,250 /C /E /T Del E:\GAMES\FILES.BBS :2 If Not Exist D:\CD\MAGAZ\FILES.BBS Goto 3 Wcfile /D:D:\CD\MAGAZ\FILES.BBS /A:55 /P:1,12,14,250 /C /E /T Del D:\CD\MAGAZ\FILES.BBS :3 If Not Exist D:\CD\DOORS\FILES.BBS Goto 4 Wcfile /D:D:\CD\DOORS\FILES.BBS /A:62 /P:1,12,14,250 /C /E /T /F Del D:\CD\DOORS\FILES.BBS Just Freq WCTIC10.ZIP and it will write your batch file for you! --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: T.O.L. * 15 Gigs * InterNet * (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 413 To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 04/08/94 1:03p Subj: usa today door Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> If anyone is using the usa today feed with a door program for viewing -> would be interested in hearine what door program you use and how well -> works. Using Usadoor by Jeff Bisson, works great! --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: T.O.L. * 15 Gigs * InterNet * (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 414 To: STEVE OLIVER Date: 04/08/94 12:57p Subj: Up but with questions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Steve Oliver writes: SO> Ok, My fidonet works fine, my Pcusenet files come down, and SO> I am looking into using Dovemail to process them into .msg SO> or whatever. I just would like to hear your opinions on SO> what works best to turn those .bag files into .msg so that I SO> can pass them on to my downlinks? My outbound return mail SO> is no problem, it is the inbound that need to be changed. Here's a biased suggestion: Grab GIGO if you have a 386 or better on that machine with a little bit of memory to spare. It's a full-fledge gateway program that even allows for wildcards on the newsgroup names; it's us$20 shareware. I'll let others comment on how well it handles things for them, since I'm _obviously_ biased :-) How to get the most recent version of GIGO: *Note* GIGO requires a 386sx or greater. It also requires a 2 meg machine; possibly more memory if you are disk caching etc. 1: Fidonet style file request to 1:203/7707 (1-916-484-0934) for "GIGO". My system is running a USR Sportster v32b 14400 modem, if modem compatabilities are an issue. Alternatively, send your request to 1:203/8055, which is a USR Dual Standard, with HST mode going up to 16800. 2: By email; send email to fileserv@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com, message body "GET GIGO". The file will be sent uuencoded back to you. Note that if you are using a .fidonet.org address, the gateway will not honor the request, as to prevent file routing in fidonet, a bad-bad-no-no. All other addresses will be honored. 3: Via the internet, using FTP: ftp.netcom.com:/pub/jfesler This site is the first site to get any new version. Copies are also sent to ftp.fidonet.org and to ftp.halycom.com, but will usually be as many as a few days behind. Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd 1.00/gamma+ * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 415 To: ANDY KEEVES Date: 04/09/94 1:18p Subj: Re: Planet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > In a few words - no progress. I have spoken with the folks at > Planet Connect a few times over the last month+ however, it seems they > are "not ready", whatever that means. Intended uplink tests have been > pushed back for various reasons, phone calls are not returned. Funny, I have called your number twice in the late evenings and no answer. > Frankly, I gave up chasing them at my own cost. Planet Connect does > not give away their service to you free - as such I'd call them a > business. As a business they are unresponsive even to a free source > of materials they can bill for. First off. You guys wanted a secure system like RIME's. When I started talking with you's I did not know that we only had a few areas available and all secure areas were taken up. We have to change the software a bit to accomodate you. If you want ILINK going over tommorrow then put the mail files in the name format of ILINKNET.Z?? and I can have em going over in a heart beat. But do not expect them to be in a secure enviroment. In otherwords everyone will be able to get them until the next release of the software. > As of today the prescans intended for the satellite have been > stopped (the packets were just accumulating on disk anyhow, going > nowhere). I am sorry I don't have any better news for you on this but I hope I did not lead you into the false impression of us picking them up! Our policy is that if you drop off to us we will not charge you for distribution over the satellite and if we do have to pick it up then we will consider the ILINK network as NON-AMATURE and will charge the network for distribution over the satellite. > frankly, I have neither the time nor the money to keep calling them > over and over. If/when they get a bit organized perhaps we'll try > again. As you stated we are a business. We have other things going on that take priority over getting a net onboard, but if you want them going over in the unsecure mode then let me know and I will do it. ...Boyd --- DB 1.58/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK HOPKINS Number: 416 To: SEBASTIAN ACOSTA Date: 04/07/94 10:10p Subj: phone and dish? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > TH> I'm feedhornless right now... I'm getting all the mail from a > TH> local node using ma bell. Everything else is working, though. > > I don't think so Tim, you are getting the mail from PC thru > my node in Miami :-) Whew! I thought he might have a "dish" fit if he didn't get his feed from a satellite. <grin> You know he has a big appetite sometimes and I remember him getting his first "taste" from me up here....Glad to hear he has that "fix"ed.....<smile> --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: The Atlanta Information System, Tucker Georgia, U.S.A. (1:133/613) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 417 To: MIKE NYMAN Date: 04/08/94 5:08p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Saskatoon! MN> Ya thats the one . The Writer is Devorac and it is one of thouse bible MN> size computer books that you see in the book store. Good ol' Dvorak, good author! Thanks Mike, I'll check it out. Though I'm still looking for an OS/2 solution so I can keep it all on one computer,I may find the PC feed overloads this old 386DX-33. MN> you would not have to invest in Network cards . the one MN> drawback in the speed . the network runes about half MN> the speed of a network card. It is OK for moving files MN> but forget running software across the net. Wouldn't need to do that, just move files. I assume you have this scheme implemented. How fast does this method work compared to transfers through 2 serial ports connected with a null modem cable and locked at 38400? Kim --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Sailboard Hanna, Alberta (403) 854-4309 (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 418 To: JOE PATTERSON Date: 04/09/94 2:16a Subj: OS/2 vs. The Dongle Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Joe, I just got my receiver a few days ago and have tried each and every trick I've heard of to get it going. No luck so far. I think the only people who have it working are those who have modified the code themselves. I can't blame them for not sharing their hack since it could cause legal complications for them. Yet there is hope! I received the following minutes ago. * Original Area : NETMAIL * Destination Area : Planet_Connect * Original Sender : Jon Anderson, 1:321/325 * Original Recipient : Kim Bergman, 1:358/25 * Date of Original : 09.04.94, 04:16 =================== FORWARDED MESSAGE FOLLOWS ================== Kim ... just got off phone with PC ('Bob ....' , tech support) who tells me the new code addressing the OS/2 problem is now in beta , and they're working on it. the solution probably will require a different dongle ... He added my name to his file of 'we needs it''s .... ya might wanna do that , too ... let's hope ... -!- msged 2.07 ! Origin: Boston Gas BBS * 413-539-9834 * 1:321/325@fidonet.org (1:321/325) ======================== END FORWARDED MESSAGE ==================== It can't be too much longer now. Kim --- * Origin: The Sailboard (403)-854-4309 Hanna, Alberta (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 419 To: PC Date: 04/09/94 8:47a Subj: Address Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have received a number of inquiries about where to get a Planet Connect system. Would you post an address(s) or something once in awhile just to let people know. Could you leave a netmail address that they could inquire too. The following is a message that I received today. >I am looking for a point of contact with Planet Connect. I noticed (OS2BBS >echo) that you have ordered a dish. I'd really appreciate a name, fido >address, phone no., whatever you have that will get me in touch with PC. This was from Jerry Kuhn of 206/2401 and he learned about PC from the OS2BBS echo. Maybe a post in that echo would suffice. If not I will forward your reply. Thanks --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE NYMAN Number: 420 To: ALL Date: 04/09/94 7:01p Subj: XSH config Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi guys . I was wondering if any one else is running XSH to toss *.BAG files into a message base unscaned and then exporting them out of the message base with gecho to export them. I am having some problems with this . It keeps hanging the computer when I try to import the *.BAG files into *.msg and trying to do this with the JAM message base gives me an exeption 13 error from qemm and you can not do it at all with a Hudson message base. any help at all would be greatly appreceated. .....Mike Nyman --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Dreamtime BBS, Saskatoon SK., Canada (1:140/120) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ROPER Number: 421 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/10/94 9:14p Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> -> -> -> -> No Problem with Allfix at all Art! It's the batch file to c -> -> -> the files.bbs in each subdir and running Wcfile on each. Wi -> -> -> file areas it's very time consumming to write. I would sure -> -> -> see someone write something to automate this! -> -> -> -> -> Bet I got what you need. It's called PreRaid, Freq by that name. W -> -> allow WCFF to allow raid to work with multiple config files for th -> -> HUGE file listings. -> -> -> Thanks Walt, but I already found something that makes a seemless -> merge with Allfix and Wildcat! 10 times better that Raid/WCFF! you aren't going to keep it a secret now, are you????? please??? Bill... --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEXTER WRIGHT Number: 422 To: JOE LYDA Date: 04/11/94 12:23a Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> JL> -> John yesterday a file came in the pcutils area called -> JL> -> MAKEWCFF.ZIP which automates Wcff very nicely, also one called -> JL> -> TICMOVE.ZIP simply moves .tic's and companion files to be -> JL> -> processed only if the pair are in the same directory to be mov -> JL> -> -> JL> -> Give them a shot and let me know what you think of them. I wr -> JL> -> them to overcome WCFF's short coming and they work well for me -> -> JL> I did take a quick look at them yesterday Joe, I haven't had t -> JL> really take a good look yet. I'm using TICIT to move the files wh -> JL> worked well these past few months. I *LOVE* Allfix, it's one hell -> JL> File Processor! The bad part is writing the batch file for 400 f -> JL> areas for WCfile to handle the descriptions. I have contacted All -> JL> author regarding a WC version, still waiting on an answer. MAKEWC -> JL> be an easier alternative for most......I'll let ya know...Thanks! -> -> If the batch file is a problem and allfix makes a files.bbs in -> the directories it tosses to then you ought to try Chuck Warren's -> WCTICK program that will write the batch file to process all them -> in about 20 seconds. Do you know of anyway to get around the way WCFF truncates the description line at 60chrs? When my down- links get their tic files, they complain about that. Dexter --- WM v3.10/93-0937 * Origin: 900 Club 719-527-0875 (1:128/158) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEXTER WRIGHT Number: 423 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 04/10/94 11:27p Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * I married beneath me -- all women do. Even in canabalistic societies they pay more per pound for womens brains than mens.<g> --- WM v3.10/93-0937 * Origin: 900 Club 719-527-0875 (1:128/158) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS GUERTIN Number: 424 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 04/10/94 7:44p Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Check out what Greg Shaffer wrote on 08 Apr 94 13:09:40: TH> > There are over 5,000 Amiga-run BBSs in the current FidoNet TH> NODELIST... TH> WHAT? Your Nodelist must be very different than the one everyone GS> Hmmmm so since you cant tell from the nodelist (obviously) how is it GS> that -you- know? I don't _know_ as such, I have just heard this from a guy who keeps a world-wide Amiga BBS list and has been compiling these stats for a while. That's only a 1/5 of the nodes in the nodelist, so why do you guys find it so hard to believe? There are over 5 million Amigas in use worldwide. It amazes me how defensive you "dyed-in-the-wool" DOSers get when other platforms claim to even exist on the same planet. It must be some kind of "pre-emptive multitasking envy" thing. I use several platforms on a regular basis, including IBMs. It's a big world out there guys... --- DLG Pro v1.0/PDQMail v2.53 * Origin: Fat Agnus - A Quality System, Planet Connected (1:225/330) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS GUERTIN Number: 425 To: BRIAN HESS Date: 04/10/94 7:51p Subj: Re: AD-* File Echoes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Check out what Brian Hess wrote on 06 Apr 94 17:47:00: BH> Hello Chris! BH> Sunday April 03 1994 15:27, Chris Guertin wrote to All: CG> What are the AD-* file echoes? <etc> Thanx for the detailed reply Brian. --- DLG Pro v1.0/PDQMail v2.53 * Origin: Fat Agnus - A Quality System, Planet Connected (1:225/330) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 426 To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 04/10/94 11:55p Subj: Re: Address Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I have received a number of inquiries about where to get a Planet Connect > system. Would you post an address(s) or something once in awhile just to Here it is: Planet Systems Inc. 1065 Cosby Hwy. Newport Tn. 37821 615-623-8300 ....Boyd --- DB 1.58/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 427 To: ALL Date: 04/10/94 11:58p Subj: K-12freeway Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To all that responded to this issue I would like to thank you all for your support. These areas will always be in with the regular mail bundles so that you can still drop them off to this system for processing. ....Boyd --- DB 1.58/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON BAGINSKI Number: 428 To: MIKE NYMAN Date: 04/10/94 11:01a Subj: Re: XSH config Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MN>import the *.BAG files into *.msg and trying to do this with the MN>JAM message base gives me an exeption 13 error from qemm and you Netmail on the way..0.5(hopefully, _still_ awaiting docs) soon to be hatched into the XSH filebone area. --- ><bbs/}{edEd 1.19\NX * Origin: ?,Jason Baginski,9187494139,Tulsa,OK (1:170/906) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON BAGINSKI Number: 429 To: MIKE NYMAN Date: 04/10/94 12:00p Subj: Re: XSH config Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MN>can not do it at all with a Hudson message base. any help at all Otay, just put this functionality into 0.5, but remember, Hudson is limited to 200 areas, and Goldbase is limited to 500 areas(and now, I leave *6* files open if you are using Hudson or Goldbase areas(if you use both at the same time, *12* files opened), the last pcusenet.txt that I got was like 1,400 areas.. Does anyone know if the XSH filebone area is on PC, if not, what the process of getting it on is? So then, the people in here, that complain about not being able to freq XSH properly, can get 0.5 when its hatched out?(that is, whenever I get those blasted docs..if I don't get the docs by wendsday, I'll have 0.5 hatched out anyway, these constant little updates I'm doing to 0.5 is making it into a monster release) ; 0.5 Released 00-00-94 : Freed up a _lot_ of memory by not duplicating ; addresses in memory. Now does intransit/forwarding ; of netmail. Now dump bad messages into bad ; packets. added BADMAILDIR. Optimized some of the ; graphics/routines to shrink the rapidly escalating ; exe size. Do better checking for no organizations ; on 2.2 packets. Added TONAME. Broke XIF 0.1(at ; David's request, of course). Now support QWK ; import simular to RFC-822 import, are we PC ; friendly yet? :) added QWKDIR. added ; QWKNOTSCANNED. Now do Binkley look-alike style ; logging, to be compatible with log packing ; utilities. added NO_BADMAIL. added ROUTETYPE. ; added BEEP whenever a bad FTN date field comes in. ; Added type 2.3 packets. Fixed JAM problem with ; export and exiting when no msgs present. More ; logging on errors. Got rid of squish API for ; squish/*.MSG areas. GREATLY sped up Hudson/ ; Goldbase by keeping all the rest of the areas ; open. Now scan downlinks for passwords on ; netmail. INTERNETNOTSCANNED and QWKNOTSCANNED ; now work with Hudson and Goldbase. Also a host ; of minor fixes in all areas of the code. --- ><bbs/}{edEd 1.19\NX * Origin: ?,Jason Baginski,9187494139,Tulsa,OK (1:170/906) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 430 To: DEAN LAKE Date: 04/08/94 6:48p Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi, Dean! DL|Well, thats a disappointment. I've used SORTPKT and PSRT both. |There is NO comparison in performance. I checked the docs that |came with PSRT, and they specifically state that PSRT will work |under DOS, DV, and Windows. There's even another version of PSRT |that will work under OS/2. |There are a few tricks to try in the DOS4GW docs. You might |look through them for some ideas. I'll give it another shot. I may have set something up incorrectly. Don't know what but it's always possible. DL|I also rechecked the docs for SORTPKT....It will only work on |your own packets that are in the PRETOSS subdirectory. And you |are using it exactly as the docs specify. The only apparent way |to use SORTPKT is to toss packets to yourself, sort the packets, and toss |again into your message base. I'm not too pleased with SORTPKT anyway. I keep getting Runtime errors when it's running (although there are none from WM TOSS SCAN NETMAIL or from WM PRETOSS running afterward). However, when this happens, it kinda slows down the tossing procedure. DL|If it hasn't been mentioned already, check your DataBase lock |count in WMCONFIG. Its on the Miscellaneous screen. Should be |at 30 for a reasonably fast machine. Hit the F1 key when you are |there and the help screen will explain it better than I ever |could. Set for 30 (498/33). DL|Hopefully so. But given the number of projects on OCR's stove, |WM4 may be sometime off. I certainly hope it is a priority. From what I've seen from Derrick and Joe, they indicate that it is. Thanks again, .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * I have bursts of being a lady; it doesn't last. --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 * (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 431 To: DALE WOOD Date: 04/08/94 6:51p Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi, Dale! DW|Hmmm. I taught college for a couple of years only to find out most of my |students hadn't really gotten out of grammar school yet. Think I'll stay |in front of my machine. At least it doesn't lose homework, flunk finals, |or make excuses why it doesn't come to class expecting me to believe it. You have obviously been teaching *my* students! <g> I didn't think I could talk you into it, but wasn't it worth a shot? <g> .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * I married beneath me -- all women do. --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 * (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CARLOS SALAS Number: 432 To: JOHNNY GREEN Date: 04/04/94 10:46p Subj: Planet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > CS> Hi All. I would like more information about Planet Connect. Where/How > CS> can I get it? > CS> > Either call our office at 615-623-8300 and > request the info pack > or leave your info (address for shipping and > the like), here and > we will send it to you. > Thanks for the inquire... > ... Planet Systems / Skylink (615) 623-8300 I saw a previous message from you saying that on 1:3615/50 there's a file called PCINFO.TXT. I'll try to FREQ that file. If I can't, I'll post my address. Thanks for the reply... Carlos csalas@holonet.net --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Fusion Mail System - San Juan, PR (1:367/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CARLOS SALAS Number: 433 To: JOHN KAUFMAN Date: 04/04/94 10:47p Subj: TEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hi - I hate to do this, but can someone please reply > to this to confirm my > outbounds. Thanks. > ┌──────────────┬───────── > ────────────────────────────────────────┐ > │ John Kaufman │ Fidonet: 1:104/675 > │""""│ │ > │ OFFWoRLD BBS │ Internet: > john.kaufman@f675.n104.z1.fidonet.org │ > │ 303-343-6978 │ ITCnet: 85:824/116 [( Oo > )] │ > └──────────────┴─────────────────────────────- > oOO──(__)──OOo─────┘ > --- GEcho/Synchronet > * Origin: OFFWoRLD (303)343·0691/0693/6978 (1:104/ > 675) Received OK down here... Carlos csalas@holonet.net --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Fusion Mail System - San Juan, PR (1:367/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CARLOS SALAS Number: 434 To: JOHNNY GREEN Date: 04/04/94 11:30p Subj: Planet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I Freq'ed the file PCINFO.TXT from 1:3615/50. Thanks. Carlos csalas@holonet.net --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Fusion Mail System - San Juan, PR (1:367/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EMMETT PERDUE Number: 435 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/10/94 10:07a Subj: Planet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> As you stated we are a business. We have other things going on that BG> take priority over getting a net onboard, but if you want them going BG> over in the unsecure mode then let me know and I will do it. Would it be this easy to get CircuitNet on the bird...if ILINK has a problem with it, we don't and will send our packets without griping.. Emmett --- MegaMail 2.10 #905:A SPITFIRE Support BBS Since 1990 --- Alexi/Mail 2.00a6 (#19) * Origin: The COLUMBIA Byte House * Andalusia, AL * 205-222-3097 * (1:18/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE OLIVER Number: 436 To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 04/11/94 9:21a Subj: Re: Address Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Call Planet Connect voice at (615) 623-4694 to order equipment for a hookup. --- FastEcho 1.21 * Origin: Just Another Day In BBS Land. (1:2300/90) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 437 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 04/11/94 1:05p Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MB} DL|Hopefully so. But given the number of projects on OCR's stove, MB} |WM4 may be sometime off. MB} I certainly hope it is a priority. From what I've seen from Derrick MB} and Joe, they indicate that it is. Oh, it has become a priority as of late. Seems that WildCat version 4 is going into Beta test shortly. I understand that WC's version 4 message base file structure has changed radically. OCR has to rewrite all their mail utils to accomodate the new structure, and they HAVE to be ready when WC4 is released. Wildcat indicates a 2-6 month Beta test time frame. I suspect there will be some enhancements to WildMail 4 (read upgrade fee). I caught one message about increased speed from Derek, but nothing more. Dean --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream BBS * Peoria,IL * (1:232/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 438 To: CHRIS GUERTIN Date: 04/11/94 7:46p Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Chris Guertin wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: CG> Check out what Greg Shaffer wrote on 08 Apr 94 13:09:40: TH> > There are over 5,000 Amiga-run BBSs in the current FidoNet TH> NODELIST... TH> WHAT? Your Nodelist must be very different than the one everyone GS> Hmmmm so since you cant tell from the nodelist (obviously) how is it GS> that -you- know? CG> I don't _know_ as such, I have just heard this from a guy CG> who keeps a world-wide Amiga BBS list and has been compiling CG> these stats for a while. CG> That's only a 1/5 of the nodes in the nodelist, so why do CG> you guys find it so hard to believe? There are over 5 CG> million Amigas in use worldwide. Ummmmm better re-read what I said......I didnt say I found it hard to believe......I simply asked you a question. CG> It amazes me how defensive you "dyed-in-the-wool" DOSers get CG> when other platforms claim to even exist on the same planet. CG> It must be some kind of "pre-emptive multitasking envy" CG> thing. Ummmmmm how does my asking you how you got this information make me a 'dyed in the wool' DOSer? And you call me defensive! CG> I use several platforms on a regular basis, including IBMs. CG> It's a big world out there guys... I simply asked you how you know this information......and you call me defensive? ROFL! Just so you know.....I run several OS's also and support 3 of them as part of my business...... greg.shaffer@ascicorp.com ... A stiff neck usually supports an empty head. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -=[ROUTE 66 BBS]=- 5.8 Gigs of Fun (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY WRIGHT Number: 439 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/11/94 2:20p Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Apr 09 22:27 94, John Lyon of 1:2380/400 wrote: JL> Thanks Walt, but I already found something that makes a JL> seemless merge with Allfix and Wildcat! 10 times better JL> that Raid/WCFF! Really? What is it? Gary --- Msgedsq 2.2e * Origin: The TEJAS Saloon * (214) 724-0318 * 14.4k v.32b (1:124/1019) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY WRIGHT Number: 440 To: JASON BAGINSKI Date: 04/11/94 2:25p Subj: Re: XSH config Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Apr 10 12:00 94, Jason Baginski of 1:170/906@FidoNet wrote: JB> Does anyone know if the XSH filebone area is on PC, if not, JB> what the process of getting it on is? So then, the people JB> in here, that complain about not being able to freq XSH JB> properly, can get 0.5 when its hatched out?(that is, Jason, Didn't see it anywhere in the list but contact John Souvestre @ 1:396/1. He can tell you the proper procedure to get the file out onto the filebone. Gary --- Msgedsq 2.2e * Origin: The TEJAS Saloon * (214) 724-0318 * 14.4k v.32b (1:124/1019) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 441 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/11/94 7:39a Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I've used the Pcareas, I guess it's an improvement on that. -> Great! Thanks Chuck! Well, it'll help with those .msg that get thrown in the BAD area, as well as let you know an area was removed from the FIDONET.* files. Been helpful here. --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BARRY HERBERT Number: 442 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/10/94 6:57p Subj: My system Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Re our telephone conversations of last week. Fido Files missing 10 to 20 blocks of info. Files doubling up on each other. etc. Tests done this weekend with several IBM and compatable systems have resulted in these findings. No other applications running. IBM 386 SX20 - Intermitantly files would over ride the preceeding file. File header would come on screen and stop for approximately 3 seconds. Block shows 1 then jumps to 10. No apparent delay between file trail and next head. Programs used were PTC1128, 1.20 and 1.21 RESULT : Corrupt file, missing 10 to 20 k of info. Some small files (TICS) 3 to 5 blocks would be collected but UPLD.LST would hang and double up with following file. IBM COMPATABLE 386 DX33 - same as above, same results. IBM PS/2 486 DX33 - same as above, same results. IBM PS/2 486 DX50 - same as above, same results. Conclusion : This test was done during feeds of Sat. 9 Apr.94 and Sun. 10 Apr.94. When files appeared to have little or no delay between them, the programs would pick the leader up ok and do not double up on the preveious file. When there was no apparent delay between files but a 3 sec. delay after header was picked up, it would be missing info and the following file usually doubled up on it. Some Fido files appeared to have no delay and they were collected and saved to disk with no defects. Each computer tested had the PC programs installed on clean reformated drives. There were no other files but these on the systems. With this in mind I point out this very interesting quandery. Several Fido files when unzipped with PKUnzip 204g, revealed the files contained newsgrp messages. At no time were there any Newsgrp files downloaded during this test, yet they managed to get into the files. I don't know what was going on with the above newsgrp stuff but it seems there may be a timing problem after the header or leader is received. I hope this sheds some light on the problem Boyd. Barry __ __///Barry Herbert,FidoNet InterNet MicroSoft EchoNet Rime UseNet \XX/Intelec AmigaNet NaNet RoseNet PlanetEarth POWERED by SATELLITE --- EXCELSIOR! BBS v1.20; XMAIL! v1.71 * Origin: THE POWER HOUSE BBS Mara BC CND (604)838-7446 (1:353/380) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 443 To: DEXTER WRIGHT Date: 04/11/94 3:24p Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dexter! In a message to Joe Lyda <04/11/94> Dexter Wright wrote: DW> -> JL> -> John yesterday a file came in the pcutils area called DW> -> JL> -> MAKEWCFF.ZIP which automates Wcff very nicely, also one called DW> -> JL> -> TICMOVE.ZIP simply moves .tic's and companion files to be DW> -> JL> -> processed only if the pair are in the same directory to be mov DW> -> If the batch file is a problem and allfix makes a files.bbs in DW> -> the directories it tosses to then you ought to try Chuck Warren's DW> -> WCTICK program that will write the batch file to process all them DW> -> in about 20 seconds. DW> Do you know of anyway to get around the way WCFF DW> truncates the description line at 60chrs? When my down- DW> links get their tic files, they complain about that. DW> Dexter Not at the moment, I don't think there is a way, sure would be nice to have all the description in there. I have to do an event and scan the files and hope the file_id.diz is present to fix it on my system. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Never take a beer to a job interview. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 444 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/11/94 10:21p Subj: K-12freeway Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! In a message to All <04/10/94> Boyd Goodin wrote: BG> BG> To all that responded to this issue I would like to thank you all for BG> support. These areas will always be in with the regular mail bundles so t BG> you can still drop them off to this system for processing. BG> BG> BG> ....Boyd Thanks Boyd! Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Profanity, the language computerists know. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE DELAHAYE Number: 445 To: CHRIS GUERTIN Date: 04/11/94 5:29p Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> It amazes me how defensive you "dyed-in-the-wool" DOSers get when other -> platforms claim to even exist on the same planet. It must be some kind of -> "pre-emptive multitasking envy" thing. I have found the oposite to be true. Especially from Amiga users <g> Joe --- QScan v1.064b * Origin: Lion's Den BBS * Trenton, On. Canada (613)392-8294 (1:249/303) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 446 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/11/94 6:09p Subj: Re: Address Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Apr1118:09, Boyd Goodin of 1:3615/50 writes: BG> Planet Systems Inc. BG> 1065 Cosby Hwy. BG> Newport Tn. 37821 BG> BG> 615-623-8300 Thanks Boyd - I'll send along the info. --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 447 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/11/94 10:37p Subj: Re: K-12freeway Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *** Quoting Boyd Goodin to All *** BG> To all that responded to this issue I would like to thank you BG> all for your support. These areas will always be in with the BG> regular mail bundles so that you can still drop them off to this BG> system for processing. BG> BG> BG> ....Boyd Thank you. I didn't respond to you earlier, as I thought there was enough mud slinging going on, but I for one appreciate the added echos, and the oportunity to allow my downlinks these echos that normally wouldn't be available to them. Thanks again, and feel free to add any others. Glenn --- * Origin: The Smell Of Bacon II - Shawnigan Lake, BC CANADA (1:340/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 448 To: DEXTER WRIGHT Date: 04/11/94 11:43a Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Do you know of anyway to get around the way WCFF -> truncates the description line at 60chrs? When my down- -> links get their tic files, they complain about that. Yes, get rid of WCFF and go to Allfix.....works great! --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: T.O.L. * 15 Gigs * InterNet * (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON KLANK Number: 449 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 04/11/94 7:24a Subj: Tossing your .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Patty! 07 Apr 94 09:17, Patty Pickett wrote to Jason Klank: > Jason Klank wrote in a message to Dave Sloan: JK>> Plenty of others have FREQed XSH without any problems, so JK>> maybe it's your end. > It must also be on my end as I received a response file indicating that > the file was missing or I'd used an invalid password, Jason. It was....You tried during ZMH...At that time, ZMH here in the east coast was from 4-5AM....Thanks!: + 24 Mar 04:26:23 BINK begin, BinkleyTerm-OS/2 Ver. 2.59 -uSoft8.0 # 24 Mar 04:37:02 BINK Ring # 24 Mar 04:37:15 BINK Protocol: Lap-M # 24 Mar 04:37:15 BINK Compression: V.42Bis # 24 Mar 04:37:15 BINK Connect 14400/Arq * 24 Mar 04:37:20 BINK My Secret Garden BBS - Node 1 (1:380/5@fidonet.org) : 24 Mar 04:37:20 BINK Aka: 1:380/0@fidonet.org 1:380/10@fidonet.org 11:400/0@fidonet.org : 24 Mar 04:37:20 BINK 11:400/401@fidonet.org 94:3180/0@fidonet.org 94:3180/1@fidonet.org * 24 Mar 04:37:20 BINK Remote Uses InterMail 2.26 : 24 Mar 04:37:20 BINK SysOp: Patty Pickett from Shreveport LA 24 Mar 04:37:20 BINK Phone: 1-318-865-4503 24 Mar 04:37:20 BINK Flags: CM,HST,XX,V32b,V42b 24 Mar 04:37:21 BINK Created flagfile F:\Bbs\Outbound\017c0005.BSY 24 Mar 04:37:21 BINK Created flagfile F:\Bbs\Outbound\017c0000.BSY 24 Mar 04:37:21 BINK Created flagfile F:\Bbs\Outbound\017c000a.BSY 24 Mar 04:37:21 BINK Created flagfile F:\Bbs\Bink1\01900000.BSY 24 Mar 04:37:21 BINK Created flagfile F:\Bbs\Bink1\01900191.BSY 24 Mar 04:37:21 BINK Created flagfile F:\Bbs\Bink1\0c6c0000.BSY 24 Mar 04:37:21 BINK Created flagfile F:\Bbs\Bink1\0c6c0001.BSY : 24 Mar 04:37:21 BINK Session method: ZedZap + 24 Mar 04:37:22 BINK Nothing to send to 94:3180/1@fidonet.org 24 Mar 04:37:28 BINK Deleted flagfile F:\Bbs\Outbound\017c0005.BSY 24 Mar 04:37:29 BINK Deleted flagfile F:\Bbs\Outbound\017c0000.BSY 24 Mar 04:37:29 BINK Deleted flagfile F:\Bbs\Outbound\017c000a.BSY 24 Mar 04:37:29 BINK Deleted flagfile F:\Bbs\Bink1\01900000.BSY 24 Mar 04:37:29 BINK Deleted flagfile F:\Bbs\Bink1\01900191.BSY 24 Mar 04:37:29 BINK Deleted flagfile F:\Bbs\Bink1\0c6c0000.BSY 24 Mar 04:37:29 BINK Deleted flagfile F:\Bbs\Bink1\0c6c0001.BSY * 24 Mar 04:37:29 BINK End of WaZOO/EMSI Session 24 Mar 04:37:37 BINK Received: 0/0 Sent: 0/0 Total: 0/0 CPS: 0 * 24 Mar 04:37:37 BINK Seconds: 25 Tariff: 0 Fee: 0 System: 1:380/5@fidonet.org Jason --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1121 * Origin: The Fantasy Source BBS! 5.1 Gig! 28.8K V.FC! 803-322-0903 (1:3639/7) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROB MCKEE Number: 450 To: JERRY NOLTE Date: 04/04/94 10:51a Subj: BAG Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jerry Nolte wrote in a message to All: JN> Can anyone tell me of a fairly simple way to get the USENET JN> messages into RA (JAM Style). Or better yet a door that may JN> allow users to view them and post via Intermail gateway if JN> that is possible???? I prefer to run my messages in native Format.. I use Waffle for all my Usenet Processing. Squish/Max for Fido. VBBS for everything else.. Tootles.... Rob --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Flyer, Moraga, CA 2in. from 125/233 (1:125/411) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 451 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 04/09/94 1:53p Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Glenn Caleval wrote in a message to John Hrusovszky: GC> But even from a simplistic view, if a moderator contacts you GC> to sever a feed and you comply, he will never even GC> communicate with PC. That is one of the reasons why it is Tell Dan Buda that... GC> very important for PC Sites redistributing echomail to keep GC> their NEC informed of their downlinks. Normally a feed cut Our "NEC" here has nothing to do with the PC feed whatsoever, and we sorta like it that way. GC> request will be sent to the NEC (after hopefully the GC> offending sysop has first been contacted). If information GC> about who is feeding whom is not at the NEC's finger tips, Who we feed echomail to is none of the "NEC's" business. Neither would a request for a link cut from the NEC be honored, unless the NEC was the moderator of the echo. GC> Whereas a properly informed NEC would simply contact the PC GC> feed and let him/her know the situ; problem solved, no PC GC> involvement. Again, it comes down to a bit of cooperation. The best way to start is for the moderator to look at where the message in question originated at. Then check the nodelist to see if it's from the sysop themselves. If not, start directly there. If so, check the path and go up one notch. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: <CyBorg ConTrol> - Where better things happen... (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON BAGINSKI Number: 452 To: DEAN LAKE Date: 04/12/94 12:54p Subj: Re: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DL>version 4 is going into Beta test shortly. I understand that DL>WC's version 4 message base file structure has changed radically. Know if they are going to release the specs? --- ><bbs/}{edEd 1.19\NX * Origin: ?,Jason Baginski,9187494139,Tulsa,OK (1:170/906) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAMES NERLINGER Number: 453 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/12/94 1:23p Subj: K-12freeway Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> To all that responded to this issue I would like to BG> thank you all for your support. These areas will always BG> be in with the regular mail bundles so that you can BG> still drop them off to this system for processing. I think I've missed this topic...something new up with the K12? --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Access Information Services --> FIDONet (1:108/155) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE OLIVER Number: 454 To: JASON BAGINSKI Date: 04/12/94 9:57p Subj: Re: XSH config Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No XSH is on the bone. --- FastEcho 1.21 * Origin: Just Another Day In BBS Land. (1:2300/90) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALTER CADE Number: 455 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/10/94 5:20p Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Thanks Walt, but I already found something that makes a seemless me -> with Allfix and Wildcat! 10 times better that Raid/WCFF! Ok Preraid is still here if you need it. Its also out on the Nets. WC --- WM v3.10/93-0997 * Origin: Arti BBS (903) 758-ARTI Multi-Line 28,8 Hayes V.fc (1:398/2.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALTER CADE Number: 456 To: GARY WRIGHT Date: 04/13/94 10:30a Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> On Apr 09 22:27 94, John Lyon of 1:2380/400 wrote: -> -> JL> Thanks Walt, but I already found something that makes a -> JL> seemless merge with Allfix and Wildcat! 10 times better -> JL> that Raid/WCFF! -> Really? What is it? -> Gary It's Preraid. It allows you to have as many Wcff.cfg files as you need to work under raid. People can turn on and off file areas in more than 1 .cfg file for those huge .cfg files. You can freq it here at 28.8 magic file name preraid. Walter --- WM v3.10/93-0997 * Origin: Arti BBS (903) 758-ARTI Multi-Line 28,8 Hayes V.fc (1:398/2.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 457 To: JASON BAGINSKI Date: 04/13/94 11:45p Subj: Wildcat 4 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JB} DL>version 4 is going into Beta test shortly. I understand that JB} DL>WC's version 4 message base file structure has changed radically. JB} Know if they are going to release the specs? I would assume they will. Lot of 3rd party software will need to be upgraded. All I know is they are getting away from the old 3 (or 4) database files per conference. The new style is a one file per conference flat file structure. You can contact them at their BBS -- 805-873-2400 They have a bulletin describing the features to come in WC4. Dal * WCE 1.5/2034 * --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream BBS * Peoria,IL * (1:232/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM COWAN Number: 458 To: JOHN LUNDELL Date: 04/14/94 9:49p Subj: Secure Mail Packets... Wh Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> @SUBJECT:Secure Mail Packets... why? -> What a major annoyance to those of us dealing with the various networ -> have to always deal with these secure mail networks. You should have my problem John. I run a Wildcat BBS and use Gomail as my mail tosser....it doesn't handle password protected packets at all. It's author suggests you simply contact your hub and request the password protection be turned off......easier said than done eh?? --- GOMail v1.2 [DEMO] 04-29-94 * Origin: The Silver Thorn 417-581-4164 (1:284/73) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS GUERTIN Number: 459 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 04/14/94 12:00a Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Check out what Greg Shaffer wrote on 11 Apr 94 19:46:52: GS> I simply asked you how you know this information......and you call GS> me defensive? ROFL! Just so you know.....I run several OS's also and GS> support 3 of them as part of my business...... Sorry bud, I musta been a little jumpy the day of the previous post! Appologies. --- DLG Pro v1.0/PDQMail v2.53 * Origin: Fat Agnus - A Quality System, Planet Connected (1:225/330) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS GUERTIN Number: 460 To: JOE DELAHAYE Date: 04/14/94 5:29p Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Check out what Joe Delahaye wrote on 11 Apr 94 17:29:00: JD> -> It amazes me how defensive you "dyed-in-the-wool" DOSers get when JD> other JD> -> platforms claim to even exist on the same planet. It must be JD> some kind of JD> -> "pre-emptive multitasking envy" thing. JD> I have found the oposite to be true. Especially from Amiga users JD> <g> Yah, I kinda get outta hand with my preaching sometimes. <BG> Comes from working with too many DOS/Windows users at work. Worst part is that I am a Programmer/Analyst and have to support them... If people just GOTTA run Intel-boxes, I wish they'd at least change to OS/2, it'd make my professional life much easier. That or keep the apps on our AS/400, which is much nicer to work with than any Micro. (I think we're getting off-topic though. This has little to do with a version of the Planet Connect software for the Amiga! ;) --- DLG Pro v1.0/PDQMail v2.53 * Origin: Fat Agnus - A Quality System, Planet Connected (1:225/330) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 461 To: JIM COWAN Date: 04/15/94 3:27p Subj: Secure Mail Packets... Wh Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> You should have my problem John. I run a Wildcat BBS and use Gomail a -> my mail tosser....it doesn't handle password protected packets at all -> It's author suggests you simply contact your hub and request the -> password protection be turned off......easier said than done eh?? I run Wildcat and use Gomail to toss into the BBS also. I also run with session passwords and in secure mode. Gomail doesn't have any problems tossing the passworded PKTs at this end. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LISA GRONKE Number: 462 To: DAVE JAMES Date: 04/15/94 12:55p Subj: dupe loops! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The DBRIDGE dupe problem.... ^aPATH: .....105/50 200 230 220 340 30 appears to be an "invisible" 4D point, pointing off of 1:105/230 and off of 1:105/220. The problem should be fixed by now. Actually, the point is becoming a node, either in this week's nodediff or next week's nodediff. Sorry. --- QM v1.30 * Origin: JOBS-BBS, Portland, Oregon (503) 281-6808 (1:105/54.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAT CURRY Number: 463 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 04/15/94 12:51a Subj: PCUSENet BAGS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No EJ> Bad, expensive, joke :((( EJ> Cheers, Erv I like the fact that someone can give a triple frownie and still give a cheers! :) Or perhaps the macro is stuck? <grin> PC --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Pat's Shop BBS * (706) 882-0999 (1:3656/111) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LISA GRONKE Number: 464 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/14/94 9:55a Subj: INBOUND BAD ECHOMAIL AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No 12-Apr-94, Boyd Goodin writes to All in PLANET_CONNECT... > Address 136/2 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' > Address 2230/100 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' > Address 273/203 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' You might want to check with John Souvestre. Both BIBLE and HOBBIES are in fidonet.na. | fidonet.na 29780 03 Apr 94 00:34 A... | ------------------------------------------ | BIBLE International Bible Conference | HOBBIES All Hobbies International --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Jasmine's Echo Lounge & Brew Pub (1:105/69) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 465 To: JIM COWAN Date: 04/15/94 3:22p Subj: Secure Mail Packets... Wh Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jim! In a message to John Lundell <04/14/94> Jim Cowan wrote: JC> -> @SUBJECT:Secure Mail Packets... why? JC> -> What a major annoyance to those of us dealing with the various networ JC> -> have to always deal with these secure mail networks. JC> You should have my problem John. I run a Wildcat BBS and use Gomail as JC> my mail tosser....it doesn't handle password protected packets at all. JC> It's author suggests you simply contact your hub and request the JC> password protection be turned off......easier said than done eh?? I run Gomail/WC39 Wildcat and what I do is put the password in my mailer (FD202 NC) and what ever address requirs a password then I add it in FD (Events/Security area) and have had the problem resolved by password protecting the archive rather than the pkts. Might work for you. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * ... The Lean, Mean, Reading Machine... --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 466 To: JOE PATTERSON Date: 04/15/94 9:34a Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> DW> Even in canabalistic societies they pay more per -> DW> pound for womens brains than mens.<g> -> -> Hmmmmmm Intreresting. Is that because they are smaller or harder to f It's because they haven't been used! -jim- --- WM v3.10/93-1181 * Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN DEZOTELL Number: 467 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/16/94 1:59p Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JL>-> Do you know of anyway to get around the way WCFF >-> truncates the description line at 60chrs? When my down- >-> links get their tic files, they complain about that. JL> Yes, get rid of WCFF and go to Allfix.....works great! I agree with getting rid of WCFF, what a pain in the butt! Did I miss something that Allfix is being used with Wildcat? ......thanks ■ QMPro 1.52 ■ WILDCAT! BBS ■ QmodemPro ■ Off-Line Xpress: Perfection! --- WM v3.10/91-0239 * Origin: Nite-Air BBS(315) 339-8831 Wildcat! (1:2609/3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE DELAHAYE Number: 468 To: CHRIS GUERTIN Date: 04/16/94 9:30a Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> If people just GOTTA run Intel-boxes, I wish they'd at least change to OS/2, -> it'd make my professional life much easier. That or keep the apps on our -> AS/400, which is much nicer to work with than any Micro. If CBM doesn't get Chapter 11 protection then you may not have a platform to work on much longer, or at least not have any more support for it. -> (I think we're getting off-topic though. This has little to do with a -> version of the Planet Connect software for the Amiga! ;) You could always write one for PC <g>, and sell it to them <grin> Joe --- QScan v1.064b * Origin: Lion's Den * Trenton, On CDN (613)392-8294 (1:249/303) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 469 To: ALL Date: 04/17/94 12:18p Subj: big files! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! There were a few Big files that went over the sat Sunday. If you never got them then I have them here for file request. The CTM0005.ZIP file is not going over the sat since it is over 2 megs and you can get it from here. ...Boyd --- DB 1.58/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DWYN MANUEL Number: 470 To: JOE HESSE Date: 04/15/94 10:17p Subj: messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey guy.... I haven't seen any messages from you on this board! I don't know where or to whom you sent that last one to, but I didn't recieve it! BTW....I am waiting for a quote on a 345meg..if it is reasonable I will sell ya mine for $130, if you want it. Later! --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/104) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS GUERTIN Number: 471 To: LISA GRONKE Date: 04/17/94 5:11p Subj: Re: INBOUND BAD ECHOMAIL AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Check out what Lisa Gronke wrote on 14 Apr 94 09:55:28: LG> You might want to check with John Souvestre. Both BIBLE and HOBBIES LG> are in fidonet.na. LG> | fidonet.na 29780 03 Apr 94 00:34 A... LG> | ------------------------------------------ LG> | BIBLE International Bible Conference LG> | HOBBIES All Hobbies International Hey, I have't gotten any traffic in a month in HOBBIES... --- DLG Pro v1.0/PDQMail v2.53 * Origin: Fat Agnus - A Quality System, Planet Connected (1:225/330) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG ROSLER Number: 472 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/18/94 2:59p Subj: big files! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: big files! BY: Boyd Goodin on Sun Apr 17 1994 12:18 pm > > Hello All! > > There were a few Big files that went over the sat Sunday. If you never got t > then I have them here for file request. The CTM0005.ZIP file is not going ov > the sat since it is over 2 megs and you can get it from here. > > > ...Boyd > > --- DB 1.58/004770 > * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) What is in that file??? Greg --- Synchronet * Origin: In Your Face BBS! Rio Rancho, NM 505-891-1424/1425 (1:301/43) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 473 To: KEN DEZOTELL Date: 04/18/94 6:37p Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> JL>-> Do you know of anyway to get around the way WCFF -> >-> truncates the description line at 60chrs? When my down- -> >-> links get their tic files, they complain about that. -> -> JL> Yes, get rid of WCFF and go to Allfix.....works great! -> -> I agree with getting rid of WCFF, what a pain in the butt! Did I miss -> something that Allfix is being used with Wildcat? ......thanks Yep! Works great here! You use it with Wcfile which takes care of the importation into Wildcat. Another necessity is Chuck Warren's WCTICK10.ZIP, it writes the batch file for use with Wcfile. If you have more than a few file areas, you'll need it. You can freq it here if you don't have it, also Allfix... AFIX420E.ZIP. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: T.O.L. * 15 Gigs * InterNet * (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS GUERTIN Number: 474 To: JOE DELAHAYE Date: 04/18/94 1:22p Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Check out what Joe Delahaye wrote on 16 Apr 94 09:30:00: JD> -> (I think we're getting off-topic though. This has little to do JD> with a JD> -> version of the Planet Connect software for the Amiga! ;) JD> You could always write one for PC <g>, and sell it to them <grin> That's been tried. John Preston (a competant Amiga developer) asked for permission to PORT the software for FREE. and got NO for an answer. That's how interested they are. (even if C= destroys itself [and deservedly for their marketing] the Amiga makes FAR too much money in Europe, and is far too popular in the Video world [watch Babylon 5 and SeaQuest DSV] to just go away. Sombody will buy up the technology. [latest rumor is phillips, cause they want the CD32]) The Amiga started out NOT owned by Commodore, and may end up that way again. --- DLG Pro v1.0/PDQMail v2.53 * Origin: Fat Agnus - A Quality System, Planet Connected (1:225/330) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 475 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/18/94 7:58p Subj: Re: big files! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >There were a few Big files that went over the sat Sunday. If you never got >them then I have them here for file request. The CTM0005.ZIP file is not >going over the sat since it is over 2 megs and you can get it from here. >...Boyd Boyd, Just curious, what is the CTM0005.ZIP file all about? Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY SCROGGIN Number: 476 To: LISA GRONKE Date: 04/17/94 9:12a Subj: INBOUND BAD ECHOMAIL AREA Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LG>12-Apr-94, Boyd Goodin writes to All in PLANET_CONNECT... LG>> Address 136/2 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' >> Address 2230/100 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' >> Address 273/203 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' LG>You might want to check with John Souvestre. Both BIBLE and HOBBIES are in >fidonet.na. LG>| fidonet.na 29780 03 Apr 94 00:34 A... >| ------------------------------------------ >| BIBLE International Bible Conference >| HOBBIES All Hobbies International thank you...i was beginning to wonder. <G> --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: BAYOU BBS West Monroe, LA 318-397-1822 16.8 DS (1:136/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 477 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/19/94 2:42a Subj: big files! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> Hello All! -> -> There were a few Big files that went over the sat Sunday. If you neve -> then I have them here for file request. The CTM0005.ZIP file is not g -> the sat since it is over 2 megs and you can get it from here. Everytime I have to freq something, the cps rate hovers around 570cps with a 14400 connect. I had to grab 2 mail bundles today and it took 26 mins for 800k. 2 megs?....I couldn't aford it. I assume you must receive better than that? --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: T.O.L. * 15 Gigs * InterNet * (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 478 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 04/16/94 11:33a Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Glenn Caleval wrote in a message to Jim Watson: > Our "NEC" here has nothing to do with the PC feed whatsoever, > and we sorta like it that way. GC> Well partly and partly not. The NEC has responsibility for GC> the management of topology and echomail. If you do something GC> to negatively impact that, he has the right to act, and no Sorry, but no he doesn't. If I was feeding via the "standard net topology", maybe. But I and about 1/3 of this net don't feed from there just because they -have- an NEC. Now please show us just where an NEC gets -any- rights whatsoever... GC> matter how good a kissin cousins you are with whoever. The GC> NEC has nothing to do with where people get their feeds, GC> something which I have long fought to preserve. But the NEC GC> still has to do his/her job, which means being informed of GC> YOUR topology and managing that topology in the "common" GC> interest. Our topology is none of -their- business. That's like saying my topology is part of -your- business. If we were feeding via their chain, then yes. But since we are not, we have no obligation to keep them informed of -anything-. GC> For a guy who is all gung ho for policy powers in your own GC> realm you seem unwilling even to provide the NECs simple GC> informative powers in theirs. Heck, that's one area even GC> Adrian Walker and I could agree on, so now I must be one of GC> the control freaks! Sorry, I don't see "NEC" in any policy, anywhere. I don't pull mail via this mysterious entity. Since they aren't defined, and have no authority via the only ratified policy that we have, why should I or anyone else under similar circumstances give them "informative powers"? What I'm doing is none of their business... --- timEd-A10c * Origin: <CyBorg ConTrol> - Where better things happen... (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB SLOWINSKI Number: 479 To: ANYONE Date: 04/18/94 9:28p Subj: hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JUST wondering if someone could enlighten me on how they have their two networked machines setup. --- FastEcho v1.40 * Origin: -=Information Central=- Hermantown, MN (1:282/76) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 480 To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 04/19/94 7:25p Subj: Re: big files! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd, > Just curious, what is the CTM0005.ZIP file all about? > Dave P. All i know is that it is an OS2 file. ...Boyd --- DB 1.58/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 481 To: ALL Date: 04/19/94 9:32p Subj: FILE_ID.DIZ Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi All! Does anyone out here have or know of a utility that will scan into and archive looking for a File_ID.Diz and if it finds one will use this description to replace the one user/tic provided in the Files.BBS? If you have such a util could you leave me the name so I can FReq it. Thanks in advance... Rds, -=Don=- ... Richmond's 1st Satellite Connection --- timEd-B11 * Origin: G.R.C. BBS <Richmond,Va> <Multi-Node> <804-737-3932> (1:264/177) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS GUERTIN Number: 482 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/19/94 5:16p Subj: Re: big files! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Check out what Boyd Goodin wrote on 17 Apr 94 12:18:40: BG> Hello All! BG> There were a few Big files that went over the sat Sunday. If you BG> never got them then I have them here for file request. The BG> CTM0005.ZIP file is not going over the sat since it is over 2 megs BG> and you can get it from here. Hmmm. It costs to call long distance to get it. Why is it not being sent out over the sat? --- DLG Pro v1.0/PDQMail v2.53 * Origin: Fat Agnus - A Quality System, Planet Connected (1:225/330) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE POUNDS Number: 483 To: ALL Date: 04/19/94 6:43a Subj: nice day Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Way A nice day In Biloxi today Hope this on is just as nice --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: You have entered the Demon's Realm (1:3604/53) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BROWN Number: 484 To: ALL Date: 04/19/94 5:39p Subj: Fido Packet errors Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have been getting CRC errors in some of the fido packets. I have checked the same packets that were received at different times, and they are all bad. This is a big problem that needs to be fixed. I have been getting 2-3 bad packets each day, that is alot of messages being lost. Thanks! --- CNet/3 * Origin: Terminal Paradise BBS * Adults Only * 717-292-0497 * (1:270/611) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LARRY JUKER Number: 485 To: ALL Date: 04/19/94 5:26p Subj: ibmNET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Anyone know if ibmNET is on the satelite? Larry --- GoldED/2+/LoraBBS/2 v2.35+ * Origin: Moonlight Delight - Clarion & OS/2 (509)664-0692 (1:344/81) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 486 To: ED FORTIN Date: 04/20/94 11:08a Subj: Re: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Just checking to see if the messages are getting through....how'bout a > response.....arrrggg! Got it here! ...Boyd --- DB 1.58/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 487 To: CHARLES RING Date: 04/20/94 8:03p Subj: echolist files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Charles! Tuesday April 19 1994 17:30, Charles Ring wrote to Boyd Goodin: CR> The April el*.lzh came through yesterday, all of them 16k corrupt files. CR> Did they go over the sat that way, or is there a problem here? CR> CR> -+- CR> + Origin: W3NU Online Sharon, PA 412 346-5535 (1:2601/100) As of April 20th.. 20:00 hours CDT None of the April EL*.LZH files have come thru over the KU-Band Satellite feed. Regards, George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb --- Alexi/Mail 2.00a7 (#7) * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat <tm> - 14.4k DS-HST v32bis (FidoNet 1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 488 To: BOB SLOWINSKI Date: 04/20/94 10:08p Subj: hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> JUST wondering if someone could enlighten me on how they have their -> two networked machines setup. Well, 5 are setup vertically and 6 are setup horizontally with a cable connecting all of them together. We use Lantastic 4.01 with AE-2 Ethernet cards. The main servers are dedicated servers and the rest of the machines are work stations and/or work station/servers. The Planet Connect machine is a dedicated machine with a 40meg hard-drive. One of the other machines pulls the info from the PC hard-drive across the network every 2 hours to the work directory on one of the main servers. What else did you want to know? --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 489 To: CHARLES RING Date: 04/20/94 10:12p Subj: echolist files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> The April el*.lzh came through yesterday, all of them 16k corrupt fil -> they go over the sat that way, or is there a problem here? Corrupted here, too. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 490 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/20/94 10:06p Subj: Re: big files! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Boyd, >> Just curious, what is the CTM0005.ZIP file all about? >> Dave P. > All i know is that it is an OS2 file. >...Boyd Boyd, Thanks... Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL CLARK Number: 491 To: CHARLES RING Date: 04/20/94 2:17p Subj: echolist files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Apr 19 17:30>, Charles Ring of 1:2601/100@fidonet writes: CR> The April el*.lzh came through yesterday, all of them 16k corrupt files. CR> Did they go over the sat that way, or is there a problem here? Same here, Charles. TICK indicated the CRCs of those files did not match the CRC in the accompanying *.TIC file and renamed the *.TIC file to TK*.BAD. A manual attempt to unarchive those files resulted in LHZ indicating the files were grunged. Those were not the only files received in that condition on Monday, April 18th. TICK indicated the CRCs did not match on several other files received here on Apr 18, and again, manual unarchiving attempts on those files indicated all were grunged. Every one of those files that were bad were added to the UPLD.LST after the first transmission cycle on the satellite. PC must have had a bad day that day - practically no mail files in the first transmission cycle, no RIME traffic, practically no files either, plus no PCUSENET files at all in the first transmission cycle. The satellite evidently was reloaded after the first transmission cycle was over, and much was added to the UPLD.LST for the second and subsequent transmission cycles. Apr 18th was also the day 1:3615/50 was answering incoming calls as 999:999/999.999, and even though a passworded mail session was indicated in my mailer log, no mail session ensued. Guess Apr 18th was a BAD DAY for PC and 1:3615/50! :-) Bill --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: QwikCom Remote * St Charles MO (1:100/602.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 492 To: LARRY JUKER Date: 04/20/94 2:33p Subj: ibmNET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Anyone know if ibmNET is on the satelite? -> Yes. Check the filebone.na file, it shows which FDN's are on the satelite. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: T.O.L. * 15 Gigs * InterNet * (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 493 To: CHRIS GUERTIN Date: 04/20/94 4:21p Subj: Re: big files! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> There were a few Big files that went over the sat Sunday. If you BG> never got them then I have them here for file request. The BG> CTM0005.ZIP file is not going over the sat since it is over 2 megs BG> and you can get it from here. CG> Hmmm. It costs to call long distance to get it. Why is it not being CG> sent out over the sat? I missed it too Chris, if you are interested the .tic file arrived here. AREA IBMOS2FX FILE CTM0005.ZIP Desc C Set ++ C Set ++ Libraries Version 2.1 I would like to see it sent over sat again also. -Joe * SPITFIRE v3.4 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Outer-Limits/PC System/2.1gig 11 CD's (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 494 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/20/94 4:23p Subj: Weather Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, As of 4:30pm 4-20 the weather stuff is 43 hours old! Whats up?? -Joe * SPITFIRE v3.4 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Outer-Limits/PC System/2.1gig 11 CD's (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED FORTIN Number: 495 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/19/94 10:59p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Just checking to see if the messages are getting through....how'bout a response.....arrrggg! --- * Origin: The Jester's Court II (1:256/99) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED FORTIN Number: 496 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/19/94 11:02p Subj: Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Being new to this, is there a procedure in getting a file put up to be recieved from Planet Connect. Like file requesting......? --- * Origin: The Jester's Court II (1:256/99) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 497 To: JIM WATSON Date: 04/19/94 8:24a Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Who we feed echomail to is none of the "NEC's" business. Neither > would a request for a link cut from the NEC be honored, unless the > NEC was the moderator of the echo. It is your NEC's business if a dupe loop is formed that affects the backbone. Many times a moderator (or others) will contact an NEC to investigate a dupe loop that is plagueing an echo. The NEC has the right to request your topology for any backbone echo in order to try to eliminate the dupe loop even if you pick up your mail from outside of your net. Sysops, NEC's, REC's and RHUBS must work together to eliminate dupe loops. If you were to deny a request for your topology, chances are your feed would be cut if you were the source of the problem and would not work with the *EC's to resolve it. I'm sure that P.C. would cut a feed at the request of an REC or higher. Chances are that the REC would be acting upon the recommendation of the NEC of a node within their net that is causing a problem. Ed --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 14gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB MORTIMER Number: 498 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/18/94 11:02p Subj: changing data feed Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No You have asked us for suggestions of how to deliver the data. Perhaps you could arm us with some knowledge. Let us know what system you use to keep the data and how you deliver it to the satelite transmit er. What restrictions have you as to moving files into and out of the delivery queue. I would also suggest that you trim down your uplink by eliminating those files that have been sent many times already and don't change for months. On those day's that have light traffic you could add some of your in house files and there by evening out the delivery. --- * OLX 1.52 * Trigger screams "Help! I've fallen and I can't Giddy-up! --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHARLES RING Number: 499 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/19/94 5:30p Subj: echolist files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The April el*.lzh came through yesterday, all of them 16k corrupt files. Did they go over the sat that way, or is there a problem here? --- * Origin: W3NU Online Sharon, PA 412 346-5535 (1:2601/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SID BALCOM Number: 500 To: RANDY EDWARDS Date: 04/21/94 8:20a Subj: Newbie PC questions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <Apr 20 02:32>, Randy Edwards (1:325/806) writes: RE>> I just got my PC dish up and going (yippee!) and am currently RE>>swimming in mail and files and am trying to sort things out. Not RE>>surprisingly, I've got a few 'newbie' questions to toss out at folks: I just got my first data stream yesterday, and OhMiGawd! I've got dataflying all over the place. I had to stack a whole bunch of it over in the corner until I can get it straightened out. I've got some wierd questions, also. What software tosses the Usenet news groups? And, can we redistribute the news groups? Are the weather maps supposed to be current? The ones I saw seem to be 2 days old. And, can we redistribute the weather stuff? ++ Sid ++ --- Alexi/Mail 2.00a6 (#2) * Origin: The Catalytic Star - Alexandria, VA 703-765-1751 (1:109/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 501 To: ED FORTIN Date: 04/20/94 3:34p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Ed! In a message to Boyd Goodin <04/19/94> Ed Fortin wrote: EF> Just checking to see if the messages are getting through....how'bout a EF> response.....arrrggg! Must have worked cause I got it here in Tennessee. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Tagteam: A bunch of people thinking up taglines --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEITH SIPPY Number: 502 To: ALL Date: 04/21/94 9:33p Subj: sat computer show Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Did anyone see the computer show that was supposed to be on the sat? I unfortunately missed it. So much for my memory... (Glad my computers memory is better. <g>) Anyway, I'd like to know how it was. If it was good, I'll try harder to catch it the next time. Keith --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Aardvark's Aquarium, Mail from geostationary orbit. (1:283/121) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN